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PostSubject: Shooters who you think could could have been friends together?    Shooters who you think could could have been friends together?  Icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2020 1:00 am

I've been thinking about a list of mass shooters whom I think could have been good friends with each other Do you agree? Share your thoughts and your ideas too:

-Dylan Klebold and Robert Hawkins:
Both were extremely depressed, they could talk to each other about suicide and death, maybe get high together, play games together, though I think Dylan would be jealous at Roberts ability to get a girlfriend, I can just see Dylan and Robert being close friends since they were almost similar in some ways.

-Seung Hui Cho and Adam Lanza:
Both were introverted and shy around a lot of people, both had odd thought patterns, I could see them both playing sega/nintendo games together as children/teens, they probably could also discuss societal/religious topics together, though I think Adam would feel irritated with Cho being a Christian.

Eric Harris and Pekka-Eric Auvinen:
I just feel Eric and Pekka would connect on so many levels. They could discuss their hatred for the human race, society, religion, current events, government and politics, philosophy, etc. I could see them playing FPS games together, listening to KMFDM/industrial music together, shooting guns together, maybe even committing a shooting together. The only thing I think they would disagree on is Eric's Nazism, Pekka hated the Nazis.

Jeff Weise and Kimveer Gill:
A 16 year old and a 25 year old hanging out? what! Hey, the Suzano shooters had a age difference, but were friends since their childhoods. Jeff and Kimveer, like Dylan and Robert, were the depressed suicidal types, so they could probably relate to each other in this context. They could also talk about music they like, their tastes were pretty similar, maybe even watch Zero Day and Elephant together, discuss Columbine and school shootings, Maybe Kimveer even talking Jeff to the gun range?

Elliot Rodger and Mutsuo Toi:
Obvious reasons. Both felt rejected by women,felt hatred towards society in general, both known to be anxious, etc. You know the drill

Jose Reyes and Jose Angel Ramos:
Both were interested in the Columbine Massacre, both had some trauma in their short lives(with Reyes being hit by his father which resulted in his arrest, and Ramos father and grandfather being arrested and having ties to the Cartel) I could see them being friends quite honestly even though there isn't much information about Ramos at this point yet.

David Ali Sonboly and Tim Kretschmer:
Both were known victims of bullying, were fascinated by mass shootings, known to be shy, depressed, into computer games like Counter Strike, etc. I can just see Sonboly and Kretschmer click. The only differences that would probably come into conflict with their friendship would be David's extremist beliefs.

I'll add more If I can of some
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I could see George Sodini and Scott Paul Beirle being friends. Both loved lifting weight,frequented the gym and were incel. They were both middle aged men in their 40s.

I think Beirle would be angry at Sodini however because Sodini had a good income and nice house. On the other hand Beirle struggled to find a job such. They were also both interested in dating younger women, so I could see them going to a bar togheter and getting rejected by women.

Elliot Rodger was only 22 so he is way younger than those two,however I think maybe they could relate to each other because they all struggled with social problems.
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Eric Harris and Pekka-Eric Auvinen:
I just feel Eric and Pekka would connect on so many levels. They could discuss their hatred for the human race, society, religion, current events, government and politics, philosophy, etc. I could see them playing FPS games together, listening to KMFDM/industrial music together, shooting guns together, maybe even committing a shooting together. The only thing I think they would disagree on is Eric's Nazism, Pekka hated the Nazis.

Respectfully disagree. I think Eric would see Pekka as a shallow copycat, someone trying far too hard to imitate his every move.

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Eric Harris and Pekka-Eric Auvinen:
I just feel Eric and Pekka would connect on so many levels. They could discuss their hatred for the human race, society, religion, current events, government and politics, philosophy, etc. I could see them playing FPS games together, listening to KMFDM/industrial music together, shooting guns together, maybe even committing a shooting together. The only thing I think they would disagree on is Eric's Nazism, Pekka hated the Nazis.

Respectfully disagree. I think Eric would see Pekka as a shallow copycat, someone trying far too hard to imitate his every move.

Well isn't that what Eric wanted? He basically hoped people would follow in his footsteps, and plus Pekka whilst taking some influence from Harris, he wasn't basically the same as Eric, I mean he had differences. If anything I feel Eric would be glad to have a friend like Pekka
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Eric Harris and Pekka-Eric Auvinen:
I just feel Eric and Pekka would connect on so many levels. They could discuss their hatred for the human race, society, religion, current events, government and politics, philosophy, etc. I could see them playing FPS games together, listening to KMFDM/industrial music together, shooting guns together, maybe even committing a shooting together. The only thing I think they would disagree on is Eric's Nazism, Pekka hated the Nazis.

Respectfully disagree. I think Eric would see Pekka as a shallow copycat, someone trying far too hard to imitate his every move.

Well isn't that what Eric wanted? He basically hoped people would follow in his footsteps, and plus Pekka whilst taking some influence from Harris, he wasn't basically the same as Eric, I mean he had differences. If anything I feel Eric would be glad to have a friend like Pekka
I agree with you on that. I could definitely see Eric and Pekka getting along together.

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Also, I could see Chris Harper Mercer and Connor Betts being friends. Excluding Connor's far left political views, the two of them were pretty similar. They both liked metal music, did drugs, researched and admired several mass murderers, and had a liking for Satanism. They also had psychopathic tendencies and very similar personalities.

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@Carnifex879 wrote:
Also, I could see Chris Harper Mercer and Connor Betts being friends. Excluding Connor's far left political views, the two of them were pretty similar. They both liked metal music, did drugs, researched and admired several mass murderers, and had a liking for Satanism. They also had psychopathic tendencies and very similar personalities.

Oh really? Which shooters did Connor Betts know about?
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Also, I could see Chris Harper Mercer and Connor Betts being friends. Excluding Connor's far left political views, the two of them were pretty similar. They both liked metal music, did drugs, researched and admired several mass murderers, and had a liking for Satanism. They also had psychopathic tendencies and very similar personalities.

Oh really? Which shooters did Connor Betts know about?
I don't know too many murderers that he knew in particular, but when his ex girlfriend asked him "how many tragedies he knew about" he said "a fair bit of them" so I think it's fair to say he researched and admired at least a few mass murderers. I believe he showed his girlfriend a video of either a synagogue shooting, or the livestream of the Christchurch shooting on their first date too.

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James Wilson Jr. and Adam Lanza were both very similar to each other. James Wilson shot and killed 2 students and wounded 9 at Oakland Elementary School in 1988. Like Adam, he secluded himself in his room (and covered his windows). Instead of going on the internet though, since this was in the 1980s, he read a lot of books and magazines about mass murderers and serial killers. Whether or not they would be friends is beyond me, but they would probably enjoy talking together on a forum like this.

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Also, I could see Chris Harper Mercer and Connor Betts being friends. Excluding Connor's far left political views, the two of them were pretty similar. They both liked metal music, did drugs, researched and admired several mass murderers, and had a liking for Satanism. They also had psychopathic tendencies and very similar personalities.

Chris would probably hate Connor because Connor had girlfriends in the past.
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Also, I could see Chris Harper Mercer and Connor Betts being friends. Excluding Connor's far left political views, the two of them were pretty similar. They both liked metal music, did drugs, researched and admired several mass murderers, and had a liking for Satanism. They also had psychopathic tendencies and very similar personalities.

Chris would probably hate Connor because Connor had girlfriends in the past.
Good point, didn’t think of that. Though I do he could possibly look past that, since he had a couple of friends (even though he said he had "no friends") and a few might have had relationships. With the exception of the girlfriends, I think they both could have gotten along well.

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Elliot Rodger and the other incel shooters could’ve been good friends because of obvious reasons(them being incels)

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Martin Bryant and Michael Ryan.
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Genildo Ferreira de França and Ronald Edward Gay, because they were both angry because they were tainted with rumors that they were gay.

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I'm trying to find out who could have been friends with Eric Borel... maybe Evan Ramsey, Barry Loukaitis? Jeff Weise?
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I'm trying to find out who could have been friends with Eric Borel... maybe Evan Ramsey, Barry Loukaitis? Jeff Weise?
My best guess (but still bad guess) Matti Saari, but really only because he also played drums and the fact, that some of his victims were his friends, but then there is the age difference and overall stuff, I guess. I guess, Jeff Weise, but only because of the nazi connection, at least as initial repórted, although I wouldnt know if Jeff would be to edgy for Borel lol. But well that is my terrible opinion.

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I'm trying to find out who could have been friends with Eric Borel... maybe Evan Ramsey, Barry Loukaitis? Jeff Weise?
My best guess (but still bad guess) Matti Saari, but really only because he also played drums and the fact, that some of his victims were his friends, but then there is the age difference and overall stuff, I guess. I guess, Jeff Weise, but only because of the nazi connection, at least as initial repórted, although I wouldnt know if Jeff would be to edgy for Borel lol. But well that is my terrible opinion.

Eric was not a Nazi, the Nazism was denied by Bruno Masi. who studied the case and wrote a book about Eric which came out this year "8 Kilometers" When I say Jeff it's about his traumatic life...

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-Seung Hui Cho and Adam Lanza:
Both were introverted and shy around a lot of people, both had odd thought patterns, I could see them both playing sega/nintendo games together as children/teens, they probably could also discuss societal/religious topics together, though I think Adam would feel irritated with Cho being a Christian.
Cho wouldn't support his weird fascination with children and having sex with them. Polar opposites.
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I'm trying to find out who could have been friends with Eric Borel... maybe Evan Ramsey, Barry Loukaitis? Jeff Weise?
My best guess (but still bad guess) Matti Saari, but really only because he also played drums and the fact, that some of his victims were his friends, but then there is the age difference and overall stuff, I guess. I guess, Jeff Weise, but only because of the nazi connection, at least as initial repórted, although I wouldnt know if Jeff would be to edgy for Borel lol. But well that is my terrible opinion.

Eric was not a Nazi, the Nazism was denied by Bruno Masi. who studied the case and wrote a book about Eric which came out this year "8 Kilometers" When I say Jeff it's about his traumatic life...

Where can I read this book?

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I'm trying to find out who could have been friends with Eric Borel... maybe Evan Ramsey, Barry Loukaitis? Jeff Weise?
My best guess (but still bad guess) Matti Saari, but really only because he also played drums and the fact, that some of his victims were his friends, but then there is the age difference and overall stuff, I guess. I guess, Jeff Weise, but only because of the nazi connection, at least as initial repórted, although I wouldnt know if Jeff would be to edgy for Borel lol. But well that is my terrible opinion.

Eric was not a Nazi, the Nazism was denied by Bruno Masi. who studied the case and wrote a book about Eric which came out this year "8 Kilometers" When I say Jeff it's about his traumatic life...

Where can I read this book?


I bought it in the "books" application of the iPhone. It's available at fnac too, but I don't think there's an english translation...

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