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kblu
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| Subject: Randy Brown’s book is out! Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:48 am | |
| I just ordered my copy and can’t wait to start reading it. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] | |
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:49 am | |
| Share with us how it is! I am hoping to order a copy soon. |
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:03 am | |
| It's on amazo.co.uk aswell. I can't buy it this month , I'll wait for July but if you can let us know if there's any fresh info and any revelations, we'd most surely be very happy and thankful Happy reading when it arrives! |
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:14 am | |
| He can't really add much more than Susan did, and half his account could be lies anyway thanks to Brooks. |
| | | andthentherewas1
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:48 pm | |
| Is everyone on this fourm convinced that Brooks is a liar? | |
| | | thelmar
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:48 pm | |
| - Ivan wrote:
- He can't really add much more than Susan did.
I don't agree with this. Again, I don't have my copy yet and have only read through the Amazon Kindle preview, but I'd imagine he has lots to say. The Browns reported Eric to police a half dozen times- he can give details on what the Jeffco said to them, how those meetings went. He can give 1st had info on Sheriff's Stone's campaign to discredit his family, not just to the media but to the victim's families. He can talk about his dealings with the Harris family (Wayne and Kathy) when they were dealing with the issue between Eric and Brooks. And, of course, as mentioned in the forum already, he's claimed to have the full 911 call. Maybe there are other revelations, as well. | |
| | | vandands
Posts : 27 Contribution Points : 66697 Forum Reputation : 0 Join date : 2017-08-09 Age : 36 Location : Buenos Aires
| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:59 pm | |
| If someone is able to upload it, I'd be forever grateful! Amazon says it does not ship to my country... Thanks in advance! | |
| | | thelmar
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:42 am | |
| - EthanEmerson wrote:
- "This is the real story of the tragedy, from the point of view of the family at the center of the tragedy."
I'm about to buy the Kindle version, but have to say, wow, there's already a hefty dose of narcissism and I haven't even cracked the first page yet...
I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant to say he is ONE family who was at the center of the tragedy, and that saying he was THE family at the center was simply the wrong choice of words he and his editor overlooked. Not quite finished with the book, but I think it's written how he intended. | |
| | | LPorter101 Top 10 Contributor
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:07 am | |
| - EthanEmerson wrote:
- Okay I'm just barely into the first real chapter and already I'm rolling my eyes.
Randy claims that Judy called detective John Healy and left him a message letting him know that she saw Eric Harris buying a gun magazine at the grocery store and told him that she thought another Jonesboro was about to happen.
Randy loves to tell stories and he has never mentioned that ever. It sounds made up. Like he's trying too hard to validate his efforts to get the police to take his complaints about Eric seriously. It reads like a fictional story someone makes up based on hindsight. Actually, that story has surfaced before. This article is from February 2004: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Quote :
- Former Jefferson County Detective John Hicks began an investigation in 1998 after Randy and Judy Brown told deputies that Harris was making death threats against their son and others on a Web site.
Judy Brown said she remembers calling Hicks and leaving a message saying she had seen Eric Harris in a supermarket buying a copy of a gun magazine just days after five people were slain at a school in Jonesboro, Ark.
She said she left a message on the detective's answering machine: "Eric's into guns. You have to call me back. It's going to happen here."
A warrant was drafted to search Harris' home, but it was never executed and the investigation was dropped.
Hicks has spoken with Salazar's investigators but declined to discuss what he said. He now lives in South Carolina. _________________ Why does anyone do anything?
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| | | thelmar
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:06 pm | |
| - LPorter101 wrote:
- EthanEmerson wrote:
- Okay I'm just barely into the first real chapter and already I'm rolling my eyes.
Randy claims that Judy called detective John Healy and left him a message letting him know that she saw Eric Harris buying a gun magazine at the grocery store and told him that she thought another Jonesboro was about to happen.
Randy loves to tell stories and he has never mentioned that ever. It sounds made up. Like he's trying too hard to validate his efforts to get the police to take his complaints about Eric seriously. It reads like a fictional story someone makes up based on hindsight. Actually, that story has surfaced before. This article is from February 2004:
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- Former Jefferson County Detective John Hicks began an investigation in 1998 after Randy and Judy Brown told deputies that Harris was making death threats against their son and others on a Web site.
Judy Brown said she remembers calling Hicks and leaving a message saying she had seen Eric Harris in a supermarket buying a copy of a gun magazine just days after five people were slain at a school in Jonesboro, Ark.
She said she left a message on the detective's answering machine: "Eric's into guns. You have to call me back. It's going to happen here."
A warrant was drafted to search Harris' home, but it was never executed and the investigation was dropped.
Hicks has spoken with Salazar's investigators but declined to discuss what he said. He now lives in South Carolina. Not sure what to believe, honestly, because so many people either don't recall the events at all, are very murky on details, or are actively being dishonest about them. If you look at the Brown contacts that have been documented, the first time (it appears) that either Healy or Hicks had interaction with the Browns was on March 31, 1998 when they brought in the web pages in which Eric threatens Brooks and talks about pipe bombs. (I'm taking this chronology from the report about the investigation into the Directed Report, which, of course, may or may not be enitrely accurate:| ). Jonesboro occurred on March 24, 1998. In the article it says Judy called Hicks "just days" after the the attack. Since she was in with investigators 7 days later and didn't mention it, I'd guess that this means, at the very least, her timeline would have to be off. She didn't know Hicks or Healy until that March 31st meeting, so she wouldn't have asked to speak with either directly (which she would have had to have done because she left a voice mail specifically for him), and neither Hicks nor Healy made any notations of such a phone message. Although, they're note taking, in general, seems sloppy at best. Hicks actually says that he left that March 31st meeting before it was over and went home because he was feeling ill. He thinks Guerra, Grove, and Healy remained in the meeting with the Browns after he left. So, unless the Browns had an affinity for Hicks, in particular at that time, I would wonder why they didn't reach out to one of these other investigators when they weren't able to reach Hicks. Guerra was sort of informally "put in charge" of the complaint but I'm not sure the Browns knew that at the time, otherwise maybe they would have been sure to contact him, instead. Hicks does say that his Call Log for March 31st shows that he got a call from Judy Brown, and then one from Randy Brown shortly after that. His Log says he returned the calls, but he doesn't remember them and he made no notes of the content of the call. Seems like this if this was the message about Jonesboro, Judy would have A) remembered that she saw Eric with the gun magazine on the same day they had met with police and B) remembered that Hicks had returned her call. There is a documented contact on April 11, 1998 where Judy speaks with Deputy Tanya Williams about a threatening email that Brooks received. But no mention of the gun magazine. All of this to repeat- I don't know what to believe. God knows the police covered up a bunch of stuff and their notes were a disorganized mess if they even wrote anything down at all. And the Browns do seem to have some of their dates mixed up, i.e., Randy says in his book that the windshield incident occurred in 1998 but Wayne Harris' journal shows it occurred in 1997. Maybe Judy saw Eric buying the magazine, it scared her, and she didn't call police. Maybe she did call police and it happened somewhere between March 31 and April 11. Maybe there is/was police documentation of it somewhere and they "lost" it. One of the many, many things I can not figure out in this case. | |
| | | vandands
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:40 pm | |
| Thanks [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for your words, obviously Columbine left a mark on a lot of lives. Maybe it feels like Randy is carrying a cross of his own... No one will know, but it's great to share thoughts on this new book, thanks Ethan for this and for your amazing new website! The concept of false memories is very interesting, I think this horrific event must've planted a few on the people that were more close to it... Sorry if my english's bad, i'm from Buenos Aires. Keep us updated on your thought's about the book! | |
| | | C#major
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| Subject: Re: Randy Brown’s book is out! Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:07 pm | |
| - LPorter101 wrote:
- EthanEmerson wrote:
- Okay I'm just barely into the first real chapter and already I'm rolling my eyes.
Randy claims that Judy called detective John Healy and left him a message letting him know that she saw Eric Harris buying a gun magazine at the grocery store and told him that she thought another Jonesboro was about to happen.
Randy loves to tell stories and he has never mentioned that ever. It sounds made up. Like he's trying too hard to validate his efforts to get the police to take his complaints about Eric seriously. It reads like a fictional story someone makes up based on hindsight. Actually, that story has surfaced before. This article is from February 2004:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- Quote :
- Former Jefferson County Detective John Hicks began an investigation in 1998 after Randy and Judy Brown told deputies that Harris was making death threats against their son and others on a Web site.
Judy Brown said she remembers calling Hicks and leaving a message saying she had seen Eric Harris in a supermarket buying a copy of a gun magazine just days after five people were slain at a school in Jonesboro, Ark.
She said she left a message on the detective's answering machine: "Eric's into guns. You have to call me back. It's going to happen here."
A warrant was drafted to search Harris' home, but it was never executed and the investigation was dropped.
Hicks has spoken with Salazar's investigators but declined to discuss what he said. He now lives in South Carolina. Judy Brown actually mentions this same story in the following documentary: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]At roughly 27:15 she tells she saw Eric buy the magazine. She doesn't mention the citation referring to "It's going to happen here". The context as seen in the documentary makes me believe she is talking about her fear of Brooks getting shot because the magazine made her believe Eric is "into guns now". | |
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