Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting.

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Am I even the moderator for this section? I was just helping you out.

Adam Lanza abused at Sandy Hook Elementary.

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The AP reported in March:
If it's possible to determine a motive for the massacre, there may be clues in Adam Lanza's journals, which state police seized from the house and turned over to the FBI for analysis. But authorities say that so far no conclusions have been reached.

Wait, Adam had a journal?


Well, besides this:
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A source told the Stamford Advocate that state police discovered that Lanza had collected information on ”virtually every mass murder” in the U.S. and abroad, and had exhibited a particular interest in an October 2006 shooting at an Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Penn. that killed five school girls and the gunman. “There was a lot of material on the Amish case,” the source told the paper.

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The amish shooting seemed to happened, because the shooter wanted to abuse the little amish girls sexually and the police intervened. Why should Adam Lanza be fascinated by this case so much? And why did he also kill children, and mostly girls? Was he maybe sexually aroused by doing it?

The only free pass for taking another's life is either protecting your family or self defense in my opinion. Period. Now I can somewhat identify with 4/20/99. Somewhat. I believe I can speak for all of us when I say we have all almost been pushed to the brink off senseless violence due to the cruelty of mankind. I'm going to get a lot of shit for my next statement, but I don't care:
Lanza cheated. He may as well have gone into a vet's office and started knocking off defenseless animals. You can easily,(this image wants me to induce vomiting), approach a medium sized dog with a high powered rifle, and they will lick your palm. Innocence. Ignorance.
He was aware the only way he could accomplish such a 'high score' was to target the helpless at its absolute purest level.
FUCK ADAM LANZA.

Sandy Hook Shooting Investigation Ends with Motive Still Unknown - NYT - 11.25.13

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Lanza frequently posted on a blog that focused on mass shootings, including the Columbine attack.

Does anybody know what blog they are referring to?

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Lanza frequently posted on a blog that focused on mass shootings, including the Columbine attack.

Does anybody know what blog they are referring to?

Operative word "blog" Hmm....

The 48-page Final Police Report for Sandy Hook has been released on 11/25/2013. Police says it is the final say on the matter and, unless they recover data from Adam Lanza's computer, there will not be anything else published. So we better not expect a ginormous 40,000-something pages of police documents with a diary of the shooter.

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Lanza frequently posted on a blog that focused on mass shootings, including the Columbine attack.

Does anybody know what blog they are referring to?

Could it be the DylanKlebold.com website that looks like a blog?

For what we know, Lanza could even have posted on the old forum...moderators would probably know since they would have been contacted by police.

It's nuts that so many mass shooters took Columbine as a model and ran with it. I'm thinking that, even assuming all of us are sane and not planning a massacre, maybe we should have a ''safety net'' type of post/warning/section for posters who may have suicidal/homicidal/OCD ideas. Maybe some kind of buddy sytem, I don't know. Just throwing this out there. Reading up on Columbine/school shootings can sometimes affect emotionally even the healthiest person.

25 Revelations From The Final Report On Sandy Hook

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JayJay wrote:

Could it be the DylanKlebold.com website that looks like a blog?

Doubtful.  If you've ever tried navigating that site, you'll find yourself navigating in circles. The content and structure of that site is incomplete and in bad need of some revamping/maintenance.

It would be unfortunate if he regularly followed the Tumblr Columbine tags (more close to a "blog" in description) because a small percentage of those Columbiners are obsessed with mass spree shootings and tend to be a bit envious and emulating of E & D.  In between that, there is some relevant, facts and content about mass shooters on Tumblr.  Also, Adam wouldn't have to post and discuss, he could just simply lurk and "like" stuff and build his fantasies off of it.  Tumblr is a very disengaged way of consuming media without interacting with people.

JayJay wrote:

For what we know, Lanza could even have posted on the old forum...moderators would probably know since they would have been contacted by police.

That's an interesting question that will probably never be answered as the old forum mods just shut it down in cold war mode.

JayJay wrote:

It's nuts that so many mass shooters took Columbine as a model and ran with it. I'm thinking that, even assuming all of us are sane and not planning a massacre, maybe we should have a ''safety net'' type of post/warning/section for posters who may have suicidal/homicidal/OCD ideas. Maybe some kind of buddy sytem, I don't know. Just throwing this out there. Reading up on Columbine/school shootings can sometimes affect emotionally even the healthiest person.

Especially since we just learned the step-by-step instructions for propane bombs yesterday. a-hem.  

InFiNiNcEX5 wrote:

JayJay wrote:

Could it be the DylanKlebold.com website that looks like a blog?

Doubtful.  If you've ever tried navigating that site, you'll find yourself navigating in circles. The content and structure of that site is incomplete and in bad need of some revamping/maintenance.

It would be unfortunate if he regularly followed the Tumblr Columbine tags (more close to a "blog" in description) because a small percentage of those Columbiners are obsessed with mass spree shootings and tend to be a bit envious and emulating of E & D.  In between that, there is some relevant, facts and content about mass shooters on Tumblr.  Also, Adam wouldn't have to post and discuss, he could just simply lurk and "like" stuff and build his fantasies off of it.  Tumblr is a very disengaged way of consuming media without interacting with people.

JayJay wrote:

For what we know, Lanza could even have posted on the old forum...moderators would probably know since they would have been contacted by police.

That's an interesting question that will probably never be answered as the old forum mods just shut it down in cold war mode.

JayJay wrote:

It's nuts that so many mass shooters took Columbine as a model and ran with it. I'm thinking that, even assuming all of us are sane and not planning a massacre, maybe we should have a ''safety net'' type of post/warning/section for posters who may have suicidal/homicidal/OCD ideas. Maybe some kind of buddy sytem, I don't know. Just throwing this out there. Reading up on Columbine/school shootings can sometimes affect emotionally even the healthiest person.

Especially since we just learned the step-by-step instructions for propane bombs yesterday. a-hem.  

Right!  Eh, eh, I saw that. Well, it's one thing to be reading on how it's made, quite another to start making them and yet another to go on a rampage with said devices.

Many on here will naturally and with no after-thoughts have videos and documents on school shootings on their computers and may have other ''not-so-mainstream'' type of interests and documents, I suppose.

Just imagine how the shit would hit the fan if someone close were to commit a criminal act and a search warrant was served to a person interested in Columbine and similar ''unmentionable'' interests...

''Some digital evidence was seized, however, including images of Lanza holding a gun to his head, videos of him playing Dance Dance Revolution, and video dramatizations of children being shot.''

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''He loved Dance Dance Revolution — he had “stamina” for the game “and never appeared winded unless really exhausted.''

Holy c..., a fan of Dance Dance Revolution. He was in trouble from the first step, a killer in the making.  

JayJay wrote:

The 48-page Final Police Report for Sandy Hook has been released on 11/25/2013. Police says it is the final say on the matter and, unless they recover data from Adam Lanza's computer, there will not be anything else published. So we better not expect a ginormous 40,000-something pages of police documents with a diary of the shooter.

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These a**holes! Why they don't release his diaries? When it happened, everybody just everybody asked, how and why someone should do something like that and murder little children. And now nobody wants to hear the answer?

Some photos of Lanza's bedroom and inside his home:

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I once articulated a theory in this thread:

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A source told the Stamford Advocate that state police discovered that Lanza had collected information on ”virtually every mass murder” in the U.S. and abroad, and had exhibited a particular interest in an October 2006 shooting at an Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Penn. that killed five school girls and the gunman. “There was a lot of material on the Amish case,” the source told the paper.

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The amish shooting seemed to happened, because the shooter wanted to abuse the little amish girls sexually and the police intervened. Why should Adam Lanza be fascinated by this case so much? And why did he also kill children, and mostly girls? Was he maybe sexually aroused by doing it?

And now, several article mentions, that "Materials regarding the topic of pedophilia and advocating for rights for pedophiles" were found on Adams computer!
Maybe he really shot the children because of that reason?

Hale-Bopp wrote:

I once articulated a theory in this thread:

Me wrote:

Online-article wrote:

A source told the Stamford Advocate that state police discovered that Lanza had collected information on ”virtually every mass murder” in the U.S. and abroad, and had exhibited a particular interest in an October 2006 shooting at an Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Penn. that killed five school girls and the gunman. “There was a lot of material on the Amish case,” the source told the paper.

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The amish shooting seemed to happened, because the shooter wanted to abuse the little amish girls sexually and the police intervened. Why should Adam Lanza be fascinated by this case so much? And why did he also kill children, and mostly girls? Was he maybe sexually aroused by doing it?

And now, several article mentions, that "Materials regarding the topic of pedophilia and advocating for rights for pedophiles" were found on Adams computer!
Maybe he really shot the children because of that reason?

I certainly think this could have been a possibility. I also remember reading an article which described Lanza's alleged fascination with the Amish school shooting case. It is an interesting connection.

A little off topic but there were also reports of inappropriate behavior towards young boys in the case of Thomas Hamilton who committed the Dunblane massacre.

queenfarooq wrote:

Hale-Bopp wrote:

I once articulated a theory in this thread:

Me wrote:

Online-article wrote:

A source told the Stamford Advocate that state police discovered that Lanza had collected information on ”virtually every mass murder” in the U.S. and abroad, and had exhibited a particular interest in an October 2006 shooting at an Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Penn. that killed five school girls and the gunman. “There was a lot of material on the Amish case,” the source told the paper.

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The amish shooting seemed to happened, because the shooter wanted to abuse the little amish girls sexually and the police intervened. Why should Adam Lanza be fascinated by this case so much? And why did he also kill children, and mostly girls? Was he maybe sexually aroused by doing it?

And now, several article mentions, that "Materials regarding the topic of pedophilia and advocating for rights for pedophiles" were found on Adams computer!
Maybe he really shot the children because of that reason?

I certainly think this could have been a possibility. I also remember reading an article which described Lanza's alleged fascination with the Amish school shooting case. It is an interesting connection.

A little off topic but there were also reports of inappropriate behavior towards young boys in the case of Thomas Hamilton who committed the Dunblane massacre.

Yeah, I know.
What also really astonish me are the reports about Adam going out to that theater and play Dance Dance Revolution with other people as well as having friends/acquaintances in the years 2011 and 2012. I mean in the initially reports Adam was described as a person with absolute zero social life, but it doesn't appear this way, now.

Aaand another article says, that there IS more information about to be released later. So maybe, yet again we will be able to read his diaries one day.

Hale-Bopp wrote:

Aaand another article says, that there IS more information about to be released later. So maybe, yet again we will be able to read his diaries one day.

The journals are something i'm very interested in. No doubt they will possibly be edited but i'd still be interested to see what Lanza was writing about.

Do you think, that is really him?

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Reporter Matthew Lysiak has written Newtown, a book about the Sandy Hook massacre. It will be published on December 10.

Excerpts:
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I haven't followed this case all that much, so I can't say whether Lysiak's take on Adam Lanza is more accurate than Cullen's take on Eric and Dylan. At the very least, Lysiak doesn't try to convince us that Adam was a swaggering ladies' man.

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Do you think, that is really him?

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Longish hair, rail-thin, tall. It matches the picture we have of him. I'm ready to believe it really is him.

LPorter101 wrote:

Reporter Matthew Lysiak has written Newtown, a book about the Sandy Hook massacre. It will be published on December 10.

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I haven't followed this case all that much, so I can't say whether Lysiak's take on Adam Lanza is more accurate than Cullen's take on Eric and Dylan. At the very least, Lysiak doesn't try to convince us that Adam was a swaggering ladies' man.

Woo. Another book to read.

Didn't take long for the author to crank this out. Hope it's at least well-informed. Thanks for sharing this.

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For what we know, Lanza could even have posted on the old forum...moderators would probably know since they would have been contacted by police.

That's an interesting question that will probably never be answered as the old forum mods just shut it down in cold war mode.

For the record, I was a moderator on the old forum and I was never contacted by police.

Oh! Thanks for this bit of info.

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Do you think, that is really him?

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What was in the video i'm curious, Youtube says it has been removed?

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Reporter Matthew Lysiak has written Newtown, a book about the Sandy Hook massacre. It will be published on December 10.

Excerpts:
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I haven't followed this case all that much, so I can't say whether Lysiak's take on Adam Lanza is more accurate than Cullen's take on Eric and Dylan. At the very least, Lysiak doesn't try to convince us that Adam was a swaggering ladies' man.

According to that article, Adam used the alias "Kaynbred" online. Anyone here who ever came across that name on a mass-shooting related site?

Edit: I already found something. This very likely is Adam Lanzas profile on a gun-related board: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Too bad it is not possible to see his posts, without being a member of the board.


Aaaand another Edit: This article quotes several postings by Adam Lanza and mentions that he was an active member of Wikipedia, repeatedly editing articles about mass-shootings: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Hale-Bopp wrote:

LPorter101 wrote:

Reporter Matthew Lysiak has written Newtown, a book about the Sandy Hook massacre. It will be published on December 10.

Excerpts:
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I haven't followed this case all that much, so I can't say whether Lysiak's take on Adam Lanza is more accurate than Cullen's take on Eric and Dylan. At the very least, Lysiak doesn't try to convince us that Adam was a swaggering ladies' man.

According to that article, Adam used the alias "Kaynbred" online. Anyone here who ever came across that name on a mass-shooting related site?

Edit: I already found something. This very likely is Adam Lanzas profile on a gun-related board: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Too bad it is not possible to see his posts, without being a member of the board.


Aaaand another Edit: This article quotes several postings by Adam Lanza and mentions that he was an active member of Wikipedia, repeatedly editing articles about mass-shootings: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

That's very interesting if it is Lanza's profile. It says the user joined 04-01-2009 and last activity was 01-26-2010, so if it did belong to him it would be interesting to see what he was writing 2-3 years before the shooting.

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Yes i also heard about Adam supposedly editing Wikipedia sites about mass shootings. I came across this on someone's web page: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Apparently these are some edits between 2009 - 10 that were made by the user 'kaynbred.' Of course I can't comment on the accuracy of this information. Allegedly he had made the most recent edits about Richard Farley (this is the Farley case:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Farley
He also, again allegedly, was a member on thehighroad.org

queenfarooq wrote:

Hale-Bopp wrote:

LPorter101 wrote:

Reporter Matthew Lysiak has written Newtown, a book about the Sandy Hook massacre. It will be published on December 10.

Excerpts:
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I haven't followed this case all that much, so I can't say whether Lysiak's take on Adam Lanza is more accurate than Cullen's take on Eric and Dylan. At the very least, Lysiak doesn't try to convince us that Adam was a swaggering ladies' man.

According to that article, Adam used the alias "Kaynbred" online. Anyone here who ever came across that name on a mass-shooting related site?

Edit: I already found something. This very likely is Adam Lanzas profile on a gun-related board: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Too bad it is not possible to see his posts, without being a member of the board.


Aaaand another Edit: This article quotes several postings by Adam Lanza and mentions that he was an active member of Wikipedia, repeatedly editing articles about mass-shootings: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

That's very interesting if it is Lanza's profile. It says the user joined 04-01-2009 and last activity was 01-26-2010, so if it did belong to him it would be interesting to see what he was writing 2-3 years before the shooting.

According to several articles, he was writing about concerns in changes of the Connecticut gun laws.

His Wikipedia-editings seems more interesting for me, in light of his later acts, especially because he appears as a serious and normal researcher: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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According to several articles, he was writing about concerns in changes of the Connecticut gun laws.

His Wikipedia-editings seems more interesting for me, in light of his later acts, especially because he appears as a serious and normal researcher: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I agree, for me I find it extremely interesting to see which cases he seemed to focus on. The article you posted suggests Adam may have read George Sodini's blog as well as shown some interest in the case, and questions to what extent Adam may have identified with Sodini in some way. I know of this case but i am not familiar with all the details, but i'd be interested to know more about this connection.

I'll PM you one of the sites i came across as i'm really unsure of it's accuracy.

Wonder what happened with that video...

From about 10 meters away you could see what looked like Adam Lanza from behind just dance it off at Dance Dance Revolution in an arcade. Two guys were talking to each other in the background, saying something on how fast he is. Lasted about 1 or 2 minutes or so.

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Wonder what happened with that video...

From about 10 meters away you could see what looked like Adam Lanza from behind just dance it off at Dance Dance Revolution in an arcade. Two guys were talking to each other in the background, saying something on how fast he is. Lasted about 1 or 2 minutes or so.

The particular disappeared, but other people also loaded it up:

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Hale-Bopp wrote:

JayJay wrote:

Wonder what happened with that video...

From about 10 meters away you could see what looked like Adam Lanza from behind just dance it off at Dance Dance Revolution in an arcade. Two guys were talking to each other in the background, saying something on how fast he is. Lasted about 1 or 2 minutes or so.

The particular disappeared, but other people also loaded it up:

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Ah yes I see it now.

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Reporter Matthew Lysiak has written Newtown, a book about the Sandy Hook massacre. It will be published on December 10.

Excerpts:
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I haven't followed this case all that much, so I can't say whether Lysiak's take on Adam Lanza is more accurate than Cullen's take on Eric and Dylan. At the very least, Lysiak doesn't try to convince us that Adam was a swaggering ladies' man.

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Newspaper article today from a British paper.

As mentioned, I also don't feel i know enough about this case to distinguish what could be accurate and what wouldn't be. The book sounds pretty interesting thought, I guess it would just be a case of taking everything with a pinch of salt.

Newtown 911 call information: These news articles include a couple of audio clips, I believe they are all the same ones or very similar.

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EDIT: This article probably has the most clear recordings. It sounds like they just pieced together some 911 recordings in this report:
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i found the search warrents for adam house [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] i been digging around the internet for sandy hook stuff and watching youtube videos i found a 2 part series that was pretty good that was pretty good does anyone know where to download the 911 tapes and police scanner audio tapes?

there releasing the police docs this afternoon

outlaw wrote:

there releasing the police docs this afternoon

I've also heard this. Apparently more documents are due to be released around 2 p.m CST, so it should be pretty soon. A number of sources say the material that will be released runs several thousand pages long but has been redacted (not sure how much will be redacted).

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One news article talking about the release.  I did come across a better article but can't find it now. It had a lot more information about what is supposed to be in these documents, if i find it again i'll post it here.

did you check out the search warrant that i posted?

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did you check out the search warrant that i posted?

I did yes.

Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Reports:
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i downloaded them lastnight

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i downloaded them lastnight

Did you download everything? I downloaded some of the documents but not all yet, i'll post my thoughts here when i get round to looking at them. I know there are quite a few photographs of inside the Lanza house that i had not seen before as well as a bunch of pictures of the school.

yep downloaded everything

Sorry for starting that subject again. but...

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Another topic of discussions was pedophilia.

Among the documents investigators found on Lanza's computer was one titled "pbear" that investigators described as "advocating pedophiles' rights and the liberation of children." Another, called "Lovebound," was a screenplay describing a relationship between a 10-year-old boy and a 30-year-old man.

Lanza said his stance on issues of mental illness, including pedophilia, "would cause others to make snap judgments about him as an apologist," Lanza's theater friend told authorities.

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A couple of documents that were uploaded to Tumblr reporting what was on Adam's computer, from the Sandy Hook documents.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  - Mentions the "Lovebound" screenplay / script as mentioned in the above post.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - "Several video clips pertaining to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold." He also apparently downloaded other video clips / audio of other school / mass shootings.
Alongside "hundreds of documents, images and videos pertaining to the Columbine H.S Massacre" it sounds like he also had a copy of the 11k.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - "Several video clips pertaining to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold." He also apparently downloaded other video clips / audio of other school / mass shootings.
Alongside "hundreds of documents, images and videos pertaining to the Columbine H.S Massacre" it sounds like he also had a copy of the 11k.

There was a member on RPG called "Smiggles". A friend of mine and I were just discussing the other day whether or not Lanza could have been a member on the old forum. Being that he had such an interest in Columbine? Anyone who was ever a researcher would know that anytime you tried to look something up about Columbine, it ALWAYS took you to a thread on RPG.

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queenfarooq wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - "Several video clips pertaining to Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold." He also apparently downloaded other video clips / audio of other school / mass shootings.
Alongside "hundreds of documents, images and videos pertaining to the Columbine H.S Massacre" it sounds like he also had a copy of the 11k.

There was a member on RPG called "Smiggles". A friend of mine and I were just discussing the other day whether or not Lanza could have been a member on the old forum. Being that he had such an interest in Columbine? Anyone who was ever a researcher would know that anytime you tried to look something up about Columbine, it ALWAYS took you to a thread on RPG.

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Ah yes, I remember there been a member called Smiggles now you mention it. You can still view the user "Smiggles" posts on SBB for those who can still log into that forum.
I also wondered if Adam was ever a member of any of the active Columbine Forums, or if he just lurked there.

Is there any way, we could try to find out Smiggles IP-Adress?

Im actually looking through his posts, searching for one that could give us a hint, if he might be Adam or not:

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Edit: anyone who know, why a lot of his posts are redacted?