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Subject: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:58 pm
His in depth analysis of Eric and Dylan coincides with my views on them and he doesn't miss many, if any important details involving their separate personality traits. He also views Dylan as a psychopath with vulnerable narcissism which makes a lot more sense than the tired "depressed" theory.
Video is available on Youtube.
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:32 pm
He also suggests that hes merely speculating. Which I think is important to distunguish. Most other resources Ive looked into, suggests schizoid personality traits, Im also aware of a suggestion that he was a Micro psychopath.
Now, depression, on the other hand, is pretty obvious. He wrote exstensively about wanting to kill himself and so on.
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:57 pm
He also suggests that hes merely speculating. Which I think is important to distunguish. Most other resources Ive looked into, suggests schizoid personality traits, Im also aware of a suggestion that he was a Micro psychopath.
Now, depression, on the other hand, is pretty obvious. He wrote exstensively about wanting to kill himself and so on.
So he's less credible than Langman because he admits he can't be 100 percent sure?
No. Depression isn't "obvious". His traits line up better with covert narcissism, wherein he talks negatively about himself but deep down feels superior -- as his "God-like" writings suggest.
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:27 pm
He also suggests that hes merely speculating. Which I think is important to distunguish. Most other resources Ive looked into, suggests schizoid personality traits, Im also aware of a suggestion that he was a Micro psychopath.
Now, depression, on the other hand, is pretty obvious. He wrote exstensively about wanting to kill himself and so on.
So he's less credible than Langman because he admits he can't be 100 percent sure?
No. Depression isn't "obvious". His traits line up better with covert narcissism, wherein he talks negatively about himself but deep down feels superior -- as his "God-like" writings suggest.
Given that he says hes only speculating I think we have to consider that hes merely offering hes opinions based on hes own analysis. Also, a lot of what he says isnt necessarily contradictory to other researchers. He does confirm that Dylan was depressed. Skip to 9:50.
Anyways: how Come its not true that Dylan was depressed when he wrote at lenght about being unhappy, wanting to kill himself and so on? And he left so many traces throughout hes journal.
Than what is depression if its not defined as long periods of sadness? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:36 pm
He also suggests that hes merely speculating. Which I think is important to distunguish. Most other resources Ive looked into, suggests schizoid personality traits, Im also aware of a suggestion that he was a Micro psychopath.
Now, depression, on the other hand, is pretty obvious. He wrote exstensively about wanting to kill himself and so on.
So he's less credible than Langman because he admits he can't be 100 percent sure?
No. Depression isn't "obvious". His traits line up better with covert narcissism, wherein he talks negatively about himself but deep down feels superior -- as his "God-like" writings suggest.
Given that he says hes only speculating I think we have to consider that hes merely offering hes opinions based on hes own analysis. Also, a lot of what he says isnt necessarily contradictory to other researchers. He does confirm that Dylan was depressed. Skip to 9:50.
Anyways: how Come its not true that Dylan was depressed when he wrote at lenght about being unhappy, wanting to kill himself and so on? And he left so many traces throughout hes journal.
Than what is depression if its not defined as long periods of sadness? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
He also suggests he had covert narcissism along with a level of psychopathy. That cannot be ignored. So, once again, why favor Langman when he is merely offering his opinion too? Because he's stating it as fact?
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:37 pm
He also suggests that hes merely speculating. Which I think is important to distunguish. Most other resources Ive looked into, suggests schizoid personality traits, Im also aware of a suggestion that he was a Micro psychopath.
Now, depression, on the other hand, is pretty obvious. He wrote exstensively about wanting to kill himself and so on.
So he's less credible than Langman because he admits he can't be 100 percent sure?
No. Depression isn't "obvious". His traits line up better with covert narcissism, wherein he talks negatively about himself but deep down feels superior -- as his "God-like" writings suggest.
Given that he says hes only speculating I think we have to consider that hes merely offering hes opinions based on hes own analysis. Also, a lot of what he says isnt necessarily contradictory to other researchers. He does confirm that Dylan was depressed. Skip to 9:50.
Anyways: how Come its not true that Dylan was depressed when he wrote at lenght about being unhappy, wanting to kill himself and so on? And he left so many traces throughout hes journal.
Than what is depression if its not defined as long periods of sadness? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
He also suggests he had covert narcissism along with a level of psychopathy. That cannot be ignored. So, once again, why favor Langman when he is merely offering his opinion too? Because he's stating it as fact?
Because he spent years covering and researching Columbine and because he also had experiences with Kids that had similar problems as what we see when it comes to school shootings 'I am a psychologist who works with children and adolescents in crisis. My primary interests involve issues related to the safety of kids. These include suicide, self-injurious behavior, and school shootings
. My interest in school violence began 10 years ago, when just over a week after the attack at Columbine, a 16-year-old boy was admitted to KidsPeace Children’s Hospital because he was seen as posing a threat for a Columbine-like attack. I was assigned to evaluate him to help determine if he truly presented a danger. I was thus brought face-to-face with the issue of rampage school violence. This began my interest in the topic'
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:43 am
"The armchair psychologist who ticked off YouTube - The Verge" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Just be careful with YouTube armchair experts. I havent swen anything bad about Todd Grande, as of yet. This piece offers positive reviews of Grande, but I do believe some Youtubers are genuinely fraudulent
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:32 am
Norwegian wrote:
"The armchair psychologist who ticked off YouTube - The Verge" [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Just be careful with YouTube armchair experts. I havent swen anything bad about Todd Grande, as of yet. This piece offers positive reviews of Grande, but I do believe some Youtubers are genuinely fraudulent
I could say the same for some of your sources. That was partially my point, by the way.
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:13 am
it's bad but then not as bad as his scott peterson video
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Subject: Re: Doctor Todd Grande's analysis of Eric and Dylan