What is a zombie actually in Dylan Klebold’s journal

1) By the way, some zombies are smarter than others,
some manipulate... like my parents.)
I am God. [edited] is God.
& zombies will pay for
their arrogance, hate, fear, abandonment, &
distrust.

2) the zombies were a test to see if our love was genuine. we are in wait of our reward, each other. the zombies will never cause us pain anymore. the humanity was a test. I love you, love. Time to die, time to be free, time to love.

3) The little zombie human fags will know their errors, & be forever suffering & mournful, HAHAHA, of course i will miss things. not really.

What the actual f*#*? Does anyone know what this means?

It's his way of saying "normie" (normal human beings).

I always thought the Zombies were those without self awareness, since Dylan was really big on having self awareness... they were people who abandoned him, who were happy with just going with the flow and liking the same things and not thinking for themselves. 

It's interesting when Sue talks about Dylan's journal because she never mentions the things he says about her and Tom.

Its hes state of mind, I believe. Dellusional and paranoid. And thats why he sees himself as God and the rest are zombies/everyday dwellers(source:Why Kids kill)

It means sheeple NPCs in 90s edgelord lingo plus it’s a reference to monsters from DOOM. Says a lot about how contemptuous he was of humanity and his superiority complex. May have been a defense mechanism, may have been an organic personality disorder of inflated ego.

Vwaifu wrote:

It means sheeple NPCs in 90s edgelord lingo plus it’s a reference to monsters from DOOM.  Says a lot about how contemptuous he was of humanity and his superiority complex.  May have been a defense mechanism, may have been an organic personality disorder of inflated ego.

Im not so sure about this. Langmann weights in in the book that he was extremely paranoid. 'Zombies' imply paranoid dellusion.

Norwegian wrote:

Vwaifu wrote:

It means sheeple NPCs in 90s edgelord lingo plus it’s a reference to monsters from DOOM.  Says a lot about how contemptuous he was of humanity and his superiority complex.  May have been a defense mechanism, may have been an organic personality disorder of inflated ego.

Im not so sure about this. Langmann weights in in the book that he was extremely paranoid. 'Zombies' imply paranoid dellusion.

In Why Kids Kill, pg. 69 (pdf) Langmann said

“ Zombies” was Dylan’s term for all the people he looked down on, which was virtually everyone besides Eric and himself. He seemed to think that society was out to get him. wrote:

thelmar wrote:

Norwegian wrote:

Vwaifu wrote:

It means sheeple NPCs in 90s edgelord lingo plus it’s a reference to monsters from DOOM.  Says a lot about how contemptuous he was of humanity and his superiority complex.  May have been a defense mechanism, may have been an organic personality disorder of inflated ego.

Im not so sure about this. Langmann weights in in the book that he was extremely paranoid. 'Zombies' imply paranoid dellusion.

In Why Kids Kill, pg. 69 (pdf) Langmann said

Yeah, but it was also a psychotic illusion according to Langmann. This is where Ochberg argues that Dylan wasnt psychotic. I havent read hes research paper as of Yet

Norwegian wrote:

Yeah, but it was also a psychotic illusion according to Langmann. This is where Ochberg argues that Dylan wasnt psychotic. I havent read hes research paper as of Yet

That must be in another paper; I don't see it in Dylan's chapter in his book. He says Dylan's reference to the zombies reflected his feelings about humans and the parts of his own humanity that he looked down upon and that he wanted to break free from.

thelmar wrote:

Norwegian wrote:

Yeah, but it was also a psychotic illusion according to Langmann. This is where Ochberg argues that Dylan wasnt psychotic. I havent read hes research paper as of Yet

That must be in another paper; I don't see it in Dylan's chapter in his book. He says Dylan's reference to the zombies reflected his feelings about humans and the parts of his own humanity that he looked down upon and that he wanted to break free from.

I looked through Langman's papers and couldn't find him talking about Dylan calling people zombies being symptomatic of psychotic delusions either. Am I missing it?

Or do you mean the way Langman divides shooters into psychopathic (Harris) psychotic (Klebold) and traumatized - like the kid in Arkansas, Mitchell Johnson? I don't know if we can assume calling people zombies is a psychotic delusion just cause Langman theorizes that Dylan was psychotic at the time of the shooting. Thinking about how he used that in his journals to refer to what I guess you'd call normal people - or anyways people who he didn't consider close friends (but even some of those) - and even expressed jealousy of them at times, it sounds less like he was having delusions that people were actual zombies than it was more like a way of looking down on others while also feeling like they were mindlessly taking away from him/the world things they couldn't appreciate the value of. So basically what [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] quoted from Langman.

It's all post mortem speculation, though, and the only person who could answer that is long gone.

I believe he was comparing people to zombies/zombie like. Automatic, brain dead and just wanting to feed off others. Also, them having no self awareness. A society of brain dead zombies. Seeing the whole world & population like that, including his parents must have been an extremely lonely place for Dylan.

Adzybear wrote:

I believe he was comparing people to zombies/zombie like. Automatic, brain dead and just wanting to feed off others. Also, them having no self awareness. A society of brain dead zombies. Seeing the whole world & population like that, including his parents must have been an extremely lonely place for Dylan.

Yeah, there was, if I remember correctly, it's been a minute, a lot of talk about how people lacked self-awareness, they just did things because it was what's done, never thought about what it really meant or why things are the way they are. Wasn't that part of at least Dylan's writings - that he and Eric had self-awareness so it made them godlike in comparison to the mindless zombies? Though he might have only mentioned Eric briefly.