Eric and Dylan in the Paranormal World...

Hello! I'm fairly new around here, so forgive me if this topic has been covered, but I am curious to hear others' opinions.

The one thing that I am mostly curious to know above all things concerning E and D's lives are where and how their souls are today. Whether you're a believer in the spirit world or heaven/hell, you've got to wonder whether or not their souls are at peace. I, personally, hope not. Have any of you dug around to search for some Columbine-related EVPs? I have. There's one in YT for sure. In that one, there's a crew that travels to the Columbine Memorial. While you can't really decipher much of what is being said, you can hear a voice (I'm going out on a limb and say that it belongs to Eric, though I'm not so positive) responding, "Hello?" to the person who asked a question. It's really interesting. I read a comment in another video where a girl says that she contacted Dylan through an EVP. She explained that she felt his presence around her and that she got really anxious. She mentioned that when she had the investigation photos on her desk, he made a comment about one of the victims, named Danny (not sure if she meant Mauser or Rohrbough) I'm iffy about that EVP though...

As for my opinions, I do believe that to be at peace, you have to pass on into the light of God. And as you may know, where there is light, there is truth. Therefore, I don't think that E and D have passed on. I think that they may be lingering souls because they are afraid of God's judgment. But hey, who knows right? And let's not forget about the victims either! Do you think that they are all reacquainted in the spirit world?

I personally believe that some spiritual world could exist, I've had personal experiences and I like to investigate about those things but I would prefer to believe that Eric and Dylan are in the place where they wanted to be or a peaceful place not here around us. Maybe we can communicate with them and Ive seen people (some random "Columbiners") saying that they did via ouija and others saying, including a "paranormal team", that some energy is in Columbine but I am not really sure about it, I amq not sure if believe in those stories or not. By the way, can you share the links of the EVPs videos that you watched please?

Mj2beat wrote:

I personally believe that some spiritual world could exist, I've had personal experiences and I like to investigate about those things but I would prefer to believe that Eric and Dylan are in the place where they wanted to be or a peaceful place not here around us. Maybe we can communicate with them and Ive seen people (some random "Columbiners")  saying that they did via ouija and others saying, including a "paranormal team", that some energy is in Columbine but I am not really sure about it, I amq not sure if believe in those stories or not. By the way, can you share the links of the EVPs videos that you watched please?

Here's some EVPs someone recorded (Or supposedly did.)
Here

Lananas wrote:

Mj2beat wrote:

I personally believe that some spiritual world could exist, I've had personal experiences and I like to investigate about those things but I would prefer to believe that Eric and Dylan are in the place where they wanted to be or a peaceful place not here around us. Maybe we can communicate with them and Ive seen people (some random "Columbiners")  saying that they did via ouija and others saying, including a "paranormal team", that some energy is in Columbine but I am not really sure about it, I amq not sure if believe in those stories or not. By the way, can you share the links of the EVPs videos that you watched please?

Here's some EVPs someone recorded (Or supposedly did.)
Here

I've heard those ones before but thanks anyway

The first EVP sounds like Dylan and the last one kinda sounds like Patti Nielsen, although she's alive. I've had really strange visions and feelings while watching the Fire department video, as if I was there. I'm really surprised they didn't tear down the school like they did to sandy hook.

I watch a ton of Ghost Adventures... and they say there is 2 kinds of EVP... One is an intelligent spirit who will reply and interact, the other is what they call residual, so hearing an EVP of someone who is still alive COULD be possible if it is a residual type.
I know GA is not the best to site for anything but that would make sense why you would have heard Patty even though she is still among the living.

I think I found the video of the EVPs that pessimisticmarceline was talking about and its interesting, some voice appear saying hello and its like Eric's voice but I always have my doubts with those EVPs. Agreed with what deathmedic said, the ones on the website that Lananas passed me, seem more residual energy than something else, while the ones of that another video from youtube, seem more from a spirit interacting with the person. All of them are interesting but I would have to live a personal experience there to really believe it.

Yeah guys, sorry! If you want to check the video out, it's here:
That's some real interesting stuff. Also, here's another one that was posted a little over a month ago:

Supposedly, it's the voices' of the victims, but honestly, I can't tell. Although, there are some really responsive answers on this one.

pessimisticmarceline wrote:

Yeah guys, sorry! If you want to check the video out, it's here:
That's some real interesting stuff. Also, here's another one that was posted a little over a month ago:

Supposedly, it's the voices' of the victims, but honestly, I can't tell. Although, there are some really responsive answers on this one.

Yes those are the ones I watched last night. The second one is really weird but interesting and the "no" and "nope" from the beginning are really creepy. Although, I would like to know how the woman could heard their responses right there to answered like she did several times.

pessimisticmarceline wrote:

Hello! I'm fairly new around here, so forgive me if this topic has been covered, but I am curious to hear others' opinions.

The one thing that I am mostly curious to know above all things concerning E and D's lives are where and how their souls are today. Whether you're a believer in the spirit world or heaven/hell, you've got to wonder whether or not their souls are at peace. I, personally, hope not. Have any of you dug around to search for some Columbine-related EVPs? I have. There's one in YT for sure. In that one, there's a crew that travels to the Columbine Memorial. While you can't really decipher much of what is being said, you can hear a voice (I'm going out on a limb and say that it belongs to Eric, though I'm not so positive) responding, "Hello?" to the person who asked a question. It's really interesting. I read a comment in another video where a girl says that she contacted Dylan through an EVP. She explained that she felt his As for my opinions, I do believe that to be at peace, you have to pass on into the light of God. And as you may know, where there is light, there is truth. Therefore, I don't think that E and D have passed on. I presence around her and that she got really anxious. She mentioned that when she had the investigation photos on her desk, he made a comment about one of the victims, named Danny (not sure if she meant Mauser or Rohrbough) I'm iffy about that EVP though...

think that they may be lingering souls because they are afraid of God's judgment. But hey, who knows right? And let's not forget about the victims either! Do you think that they are all reacquainted in the spirit world?

I need to clarify something. Are you saying that you hope E &D AREN'T at peace?

deathmedic wrote:

I watch a ton of Ghost Adventures... and they say there is 2 kinds of EVP... One is an intelligent spirit who will reply and interact, the other is what they call residual, so hearing an EVP of someone who is still alive COULD be possible if it is a residual type.
I know GA is not the best to site for anything but that would make sense why you would have heard Patty even though she is still among the living.

nothing to cover up at columbine.

Can you explain what you mean by visions?

Mj2beat wrote:

pessimisticmarceline wrote:

Yeah guys, sorry! If you want to check the video out, it's here:
That's some real interesting stuff. Also, here's another one that was posted a little over a month ago:

Supposedly, it's the voices' of the victims, but honestly, I can't tell. Although, there are some really responsive answers on this one.

Yes those are the ones I watched last night. The second one is really weird but interesting and the "no" and "nope" from the beginning are really creepy. Although, I would like to know how the woman could heard their responses right there to answered like she did several times.

The spirit box I have a hint of understanding for, but the rest is just nonsense IMO. I am not telling you that I think you are wrong, just i don't subscribe to it tbh. The "growl" "no" and a few other responses to me are just hard to listen to tbh. If they didn't put up the subtitles I would never have heard it. Sorry.

Is it just me that finds this weird that people buy into this?

I find it a little disrespectful myself.

Nah, im on the same page.

Honestly, whether ghosts are real or not, I have a bad feeling about people attempting to meddle with the dead. Especially dead mass murderers.

Lananas wrote:

Honestly, whether ghosts are real or not, I have a bad feeling about people attempting to meddle with the dead. Especially dead mass murderers.

I agree.

I know people's views about this are widely varied, but in my own experience, and with the vast experiences that have been shared with me by others, this is TRULY not something to play around with.

And that is precisely what most of this is; literally toying with things they are not even remotely prepared to cope with, let alone understand, despite how "advanced" many of them promote themselves as being.

[quote="think that they may be lingering souls because they are afraid of God's judgment. But hey, who knows right? And let's not forget about the victims either! Do you think that they are all reacquainted in the spirit world?"][

Is the spirit world and the afterlife the same thing? I heard they are completely different.

Lananas wrote:

I know people's views about this are widely varied, but in my own experience, and with the vast experiences that have been shared with me by others, this is TRULY not something to play around with.

I'm really interested in this subject. Can you elaborate on this ? I do hear people say "don't mess with an ouija board" but never really heard a good , detailed explanation to why.[/quote]

When you communicate with spiritual beings, you are asking a favor which needs to be returned. People who have messed with EVP detectors and spirit boxes without knowing what they are doing can put themselves in danger.

You said others had experiences, care to share some? I'm reeally interested (PM if we're not allowed to be this off-topic)

There's a story of a woman who became so obsessed with detecting EVPs that she completely isolated herself from society.

Magnaphoria wrote:

Lananas wrote:

I know people's views about this are widely varied, but in my own experience, and with the vast experiences that have been shared with me by others, this is TRULY not something to play around with.

I'm really interested in this subject. Can you elaborate on this ? I do hear people say "don't mess with an ouija board" but never really heard a good , detailed explanation to why.

I'm not sure I believe this myself, but I often heard/read that it can be dangerous, too. People say that almost always it's not the ghosts who you want to 'talk' with (eg Eric/Dylan) that reply to you, but some other 'beings' (like demons or whatever - and some of them can really mess with people). And it could be difficult to get rid of them.

Some people on youtube say that ghost who says "I m here " sounds like Eric and i think i heard Klebold not able ,There was no Heather involved in the event .

It is weird ,and i also think it can be dangerous sometimes demons can pretend like they are the people you try to get in contact with ,i have seen a video where a guy says he had to go to Exorcist after communicating with a ghost trough Ouija board.

But then again i read that some souls who are in Purgatory they do not suffer in Purgatory but on places they have sinned Mystic Teresa Neuman saw some priest who had to spend time in his church as a ghost ,Blessed Anne Katharine Emmerick saw a solder whose ghost was chained on a hill where he had died . According to that testimonies it could be possible that D&E are still there . but how can we know if that are really them or demons?

That reminded me, someone (think it was a fangirl iirc) had a website and she posted a transcript of soem Ouija session suposedly talking to D.Kleboold.

On a related note, I heard fro a Denver local that there's a ghost story linked - supposedly Carla Hochhalter's ghost can be seen at night outside CHS on the school grounds and also at some local mall parking lot after dark.

If I were to go down the religious explanation, I'd say that its unlikely that either Eric or Dylan are around CHS, as by all evidence they are probably staying in the hells. Having said that, its possible that through mercy and compassion their time in hell was cut short and they were given a chance to be reborn as pretas - hungry ghosts (aka gaki) and hang around CHS in that form. But if the latter is true, then they shouldn't rememebr their past lives anyways.

Worst case scenario (even more unlikely) is that they somehow hang around CHS as vengefull spirits (onryō). That wouldl indeed be the worst possible cas as, as onryō are famously known for their capacity to directly harm or kill living humans. Seeing as we did not have a wave of weird deaths in CHS after the shooting, I think we can safely disregard the onryō hypothesis, even if we believe in such unorthodox and "not-exactly-canon-buddhist" things as vengefull ghosts.


I do not believe in any of this very much, but its fun to think about it and discuss.

I agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], as interesting as it may be, it seems to be a bad idea to mess around with something like this. Whether you believe in the possibility of vengeful mass murderer ghosts or pissed off victims or what have you, most of the time you shouldn't play with things you don't understand.

On that note, I really didn't hear anything. I mean, I heard most of what they posted as subtitles but if they had not done that I probably would not have heard it.