forgotten/less discussed mass shootings

thread to discuss mass shooters that have faded into near obscurity despite a fairly large victim count, e.g. dimitrios pagourtzis, artyom kazantsev

James Huberty, Kip Kinkel, Luke Woodham, Adam Lanza, Brenton Tarrant, Martin Bryant

TheGoodChief wrote:

James Huberty,  Kip Kinkel, Luke Woodham, Adam Lanza, Brenton Tarrant, Martin Bryant

Are you kidding? Even aside from most of these being well discussed, Sandy Hook is probably the second most discussed mass shooting in the West right after Columbine.

My personal interests with shootings I don't hear discussed as much would be;
-1991 Luby's shooting [George Jo Hennard]
-1999 Wedgewood Baptist church shooting [Larry Gene Ashbrook]
-2016 Dallas police shooting [Micah Xavier Johnson]
-2020 Nizhny Novgorod Russia shooting [Daniil Monakhov]
-1961 Kungälv school shooting in Sweden [Ove Andersson]
-1998 Westside Middle School shooting [Andrew Golden and Mitchell Johnson]

messianic_mania wrote:

My personal interests with shootings I don't hear discussed as much would be;
-1991 Luby's shooting [George Jo Hennard]
-1999 Wedgewood Baptist church shooting [Larry Gene Ashbrook]
-2016 Dallas police shooting [Micah Xavier Johnson]
-2020 Nizhny Novgorod Russia shooting [Daniil Monakhov]
-1961 Kungälv school shooting in Sweden [Ove Andersson]
-1998 Westside Middle School shooting [Andrew Golden and Mitchell Johnson]

yeah, its honestly strange how these have all pretty much been forgotten, especially johnson and monakhov considering how recent(?) they are, and hennard considering how many he killed and his bizarre motive.

war criminal wrote:

messianic_mania wrote:

-2020 Nizhny Novgorod Russia shooting [Daniil Monakhov]

panzermensch89 wrote:

yeah, its honestly strange how these have all pretty much been forgotten, especially johnson and monakhov

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woah, really in-detail. i didnt even know there was that much info about monakhov or the shooting. great job.

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Holy shit, this is fantastic, thank you for sharing. It's very difficult to find good details in English.

Howard Unruh; Jake Davison, Valery Fabrikant and Huu Can Tran are all some. Also, to a more notable extent, Connor Betts, William Unek and Panya Khamrab. George Emil Banks, DeWayne Craddock and James Edward Pough too. As well as James U. Ruppert, Christopher Thomas and Masanori Aoki. A lot of people seem to completely forget the African American ones that kill around in the low teens. The list could go on much longer.

Yasuhisa Sugiura’s another one.

And nobody cares about Stephen Paddock either.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

And nobody cares about Stephen Paddock either.

You're right, I didn't realize until now that I rarely hear people mention it even on mass killer threads. Which is really strange considering the number of people injured and killed, and how terrifying it make the concert experience for people after it happened. Just like how the Aurora theater shooting made everyone scared of going to the movies... Maybe it really is true that nobody cares about mass shooters if they're not below a certain age.

messianic_mania wrote:

Maybe it really is true that nobody cares about mass shooters if they're not below a certain age.

true, i rarely hear anyone talk about shooters over the age of maybe 30. i rarely see anyone mention ones like paddock, thomas hamilton or robert bowers (outside of discussing his trial). not to say that they are entirely forgotten, just less discussed than say lanza or harris & klebold.

messianic_mania wrote:

TheGoodChief wrote:

James Huberty,  Kip Kinkel, Luke Woodham, Adam Lanza, Brenton Tarrant, Martin Bryant

Are you kidding? Even aside from most of these being well discussed, Sandy Hook is probably the second most discussed mass shooting in the West right after Columbine.

They are discussed alot, but Sandy Hook is slowly being forgotten.

I don't think I've even seen anyone talk about Mikenskaya. 34 kills is incredible you'd expect atleast some discussion but then again there's not much to really discuss it was just some chechen losing his shit and commiting a war crime.
MEKENSKAYA, Russia -- Ahmed Bragimov was acting alone when he went on a ghastly shooting spree in the Chechen town of Mekenskaya, witnesses said.

He targeted only Russians, survivors said. He was described as methodical, vowing to kill as many people as he could before Russian troops arrived to seize the town.

Bragimov shot to death at least 34 people, leaving their bodies scattered about in gardens and doorways and muddy streets. And though there is no evidence that he was working on orders of the Chechen guerrillas fighting Russian troops in the breakaway republic, most people left in Mekenskaya see Bragimov and those rebels as one and the same.

''He was a killer and a thief, just as they all are,'' said an elderly man in Mekenskaya. ''The Chechens are all bandits. They would all kill us if they could.''

It is merely what the Chechens deserve, say some in Mekenskaya.

On a sunny and clear day, good flying weather for the Russian bombers and helicopter gunships attacking Grozny, Larisa Chikova was recalling how she and others hid from Bragimov as he moved through Mekenskaya killing people on Oct. 8. Next to her a Russian soldier was filling in a fresh grave, dug for the victims after pathologists conducted forensic tests on the corpses.

Bragimov himself finally was caught by townspeople and beaten to death

TheGoodChief wrote:

messianic_mania wrote:

TheGoodChief wrote:

James Huberty,  Kip Kinkel, Luke Woodham, Adam Lanza, Brenton Tarrant, Martin Bryant

Are you kidding? Even aside from most of these being well discussed, Sandy Hook is probably the second most discussed mass shooting in the West right after Columbine.

They are discussed alot, but Sandy Hook is slowly being forgotten.

That’s because all the bases were covered on it, and killing young children isn’t interesting anymore.

The real question is which are the most talked about mass shootings.

Columbine
Sandy Hook
Isla Vista
Weis Markets
Christchurch
Suzano
Kerch
parkland
Virginia
Tech
Uvalde

and some shootings less talked but famous too

Aurora
Charleston
New Aztec

Anyone other than the above mentioned, and probably a few that i don't remember, could be considered forgotten, most are attracted to serials or singulars

Ringing in my fucking ear.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

Ringing in my fucking ear.

Tinnitus?

ParanoidAndroid wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

Ringing in my fucking ear.

Tinnitus?

Hahah. No. It’s partially a metaphor. And more likely a problem with my headphones than any disease.

Thousand Oaks (2018)

Vlixu23 wrote:

Thousand Oaks (2018)

Oh wow, I never heard of this one before now. Strange it's not as talked about considering it was a pretty high death/injury count. I wonder if it was because he was a veteran? Military shooters don't get a lot of attention I've noticed. But it was probably just forgotten because of the massive amount of shootings happening around that time.

Pretty much any pre-1999 mass shooting but I find the 1989 Stockton Schoolyard Shooting to be the most interesting.

Izhevsk school shooting

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

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EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

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EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

this is by far the craziest, most pointless argument ever recorded on the internet

caliburrie wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

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EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

this is by far the craziest, most pointless argument ever recorded on the internet

agreed honestly

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

then whats an accurate response?

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

then whats an accurate response?

My life is very sad; that’s about the only thing that I’m seeing which could be considered factual.

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

then whats an accurate response?

My life is very sad; that’s about the only thing that I’m seeing which could be considered factual.

i mean there’s nothing wrong with being depressed but you can say it without mentioning how you want to murder children, man. that’s how you get reported to the authorities.

panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

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panzermensch89 wrote:

EsalvatoryOrbalofJTruth wrote:

xDarkRazoR wrote:

Izhevsk school shooting

Wrong

how is it wrong? hardly anyone ever talks about it considering the death toll and how recent it is.

It is wrong.

explain how. i see hardly any discussion about it anywhere.

Nah. Whatever. I’m tired. Of… participating.

good. stop trying to argue with everyone and just get off the forum lmao

I’m not trying to argue with anyone…

then just dont say "wRONG" without reason to someone just giving their input you dolt

I want to murder children. Hahah…

fucking edgelord

Inaccurate response.

then whats an accurate response?

My life is very sad; that’s about the only thing that I’m seeing which could be considered factual.

i mean there’s nothing wrong with being depressed but you can say it without mentioning how you want to murder children, man. that’s how you get reported to the authorities.

Okay.

Raymond Spencer (Edmund Burke school shooting) is very fascinating to me, given the amount of damage he was trying to cause and his massive arsenal, as well as the little details like having a Yakub poster in the apartment and editing the school's Wikipedia page, etc., which just make it very odd. Albeit its completely understandable that he was forgotten, given how he failed miserably to kill even a single person, I consider him to be the most "failed" shooter of all time. Given his arsenal and all his preparations to not even kill a single person,. But as for shootings with a high casualty count that aren't discussed, Realengo sticks out to me.

CoreyVanVonWeg wrote:

The real question is which are the most talked about mass shootings.

Columbine
Sandy Hook
Isla Vista
Weis Markets
Christchurch
Suzano
Kerch
parkland
Virginia
Tech
Uvalde

and some shootings less talked but famous too

Aurora
Charleston
New Aztec

Anyone other than the above mentioned, and probably a few that i don't remember, could be considered forgotten, most are attracted to serials or singulars

Another interesting question would be what shootings are completely unknown to the general public but very well known among people interested in mass shootings. For example, I don't think Aztec or Eaton Weis are at all known by the general public but they are very well known in these sorts of communities (although they are probably also well known among people interested in lolcows)

Pierre Lebrun is one of my favorite lesser known cases due to his choice of firearm, the remington 760. As far as I'm aware it's the only shooting to be carried out with a pump action centerfire rifle. Whitman used a remington 141, so that statement isn't true.