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Subject: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:34 pm
So says Diane Sawyer.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:36 pm
Really, is it true the house is being sold as well ?
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:37 pm
sororityalpha wrote:
Really, is it true the house is being sold as well ?
She hasn't said.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:38 pm
that really surprised me. Sounds as if it happened a few yrs ago+ if I heard correctly "after 30 years"
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:41 pm
Byron (Dylan's older brother) was born in 1978 - so they were married before that
So, maybe the divorce was around 2008 ?
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:03 pm
Toward the end, they showed her driving in her car and she said, "We're near my old house."
Fatheroftwo, can you tell us whereabouts that was filmed?
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:05 pm
LPorter101 wrote:
Toward the end, they showed her driving in her car and she said, "We're near my old house."
Fatheroftwo, can you tell us whereabouts that was filmed?
LP,
I was posting on here & listening to audio only.. were they driving by the house they resided in on 4/20/99 or an older home?
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:06 pm
Fatheroftwo wrote:
LPorter101 wrote:
Toward the end, they showed her driving in her car and she said, "We're near my old house."
Fatheroftwo, can you tell us whereabouts that was filmed?
LP,
Ā I was posting on here & listening to audio only.. Ā were they driving by the house they resided in on 4/20/99 or an older home?
I am uploading the whole thing to YouTube ... I will send you the link when it is ready.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:12 pm
LPorter101 wrote:
Fatheroftwo wrote:
LPorter101 wrote:
Toward the end, they showed her driving in her car and she said, "We're near my old house."
Fatheroftwo, can you tell us whereabouts that was filmed?
LP,
Ā I was posting on here & listening to audio only.. Ā were they driving by the house they resided in on 4/20/99 or an older home?
I am uploading the whole thing to YouTube ... I will send you the link when it is ready.
Perfect, gracias
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:14 pm
LPorter101 you are a champ.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 pm
Very,very sad but not surprising.The majority of parents who have lost a child end up splitting up.No matter how much they loved each other or how strong of a relationship they had before the tremendous strain and grief is often too much to endure.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:18 pm
Juicy Jazzy wrote:
LPorter101 you are a champ.
I try.
I'm uploading it in SD ... I have an old Dazzle video recorder that can't do HD.
Here are parts 1-5. Part 6 should be up soon:
(Part 1 has some other stuff at the beginning ... I started recording two minutes before the hour and I didn't want to waste time editing it out.)
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:19 pm
Yes no problem ... maybe we can get this in HD sometime
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:23 pm
I think we now know why the house appeared to have sold over the years post 4/20/99.. title transfers due to divorce & possible Tom Klebold refinanced in 2014.
The 2014 "sale" price was $575,000.. that is a $1M+ house in greater Denver.. if not significantly more.
LP, gimme min & I'll be on those links
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:27 pm
So, when did the Klebolds sell/move out of their house?
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:28 pm
she's referencing the home they lived in on 4/20/99 Deer Creek Canyon area
S Cougar Rd Littleton.. 2 miles SE of Lockheed Martin
I love that area, no finer place to live in greater Denver
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:35 pm
That would be 9351 Cougar Rd Littleton, CO 80127
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:45 pm
I think they must have split up in the last 3 years or so. They seemed to still be very much together when interviewed for the Far from the tree book.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:05 am
They got married in 1971 (Kass' book)
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:07 am
Strange! So that means they've been divorced since 2002? But Far from the Tree said they were still living together? I'm confused.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:30 am
PaintItBlack wrote:
Strange! So that means they've been divorced since 2002? But Far from the Tree said they were still living together? I'm confused.
She said they divorced 'after over 30 years'. So that means they divorced sometime before 2011. Because if it was past 2011, she would've said '40 years'.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:36 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Thanks.My emotions are in a whirl tonight so I wasn't thinking clearly.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:56 am
I always thought if a couple divorced, the woman's name changes back to her maiden name - so is she now Susan Yassenhoff again?
Has she stuck with the name Klebold because she doesn't want to look to hide away from what Dylan did? (Note the point in the interview where she said she wouldn't have changed her name and ran away).
Maybe she is Susan Yassenoff but an interview and a book with Susan Klebold is more appealing than with Susan Yassenoff?
I stand to be corrected here - I genuinely don't know how the whole name thing works after a divorce.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:24 am
It was so sad to learn about this. I'd always liked to thought that the shooters parents had each other at leastā¦ I think they divorced sometime between 2012 and 2014, when they were interviewed by Andrew Solomon it seemed like they were still together.
Regarding the house, I think Tom is still living there but Sue moved out (due to the "my old house" comment). These are from the official Jeffco property records:
Property Address: 09351 COUGAR RD LITTLETON CO 80127 Owner Name(s): KLEBOLD THOMAS E SALE HISTORY: Sale Date Ā /Ā Sale Amount / Deed Type 07-22-1981 Ā 0 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Other Ā 10-26-1989 Ā 250,000 Ā Warranty Deed - Joint Tenancy Ā 10-05-1990 Ā 0 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Special Warranty Deed Ā 07-22-1999 Ā 0 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā General Warranty Deed Ā 04-08-2002 Ā 0 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Quit Claim Deed Ā 02-16-2012 Ā 0 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Special Warranty Deed Ā 02-06-2015 Ā 0 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Quit Claim Deed Ā
Another websites such as Realtor.com show that the house was sold on 04/15/2014 for $575,000.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Susan also changed her middle name when she got married. Her full maiden name was Susan Frances Yassenoff, but after getting married she "became" Susan Yassenoff Klebold, so maybe that's why she is gonna keep it.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:14 am
In the Ted talk that Andrew Solomon gave he mentioned that he spent 10 years compiling Far From the Tree and that he met with the klebolds many times over the years. the information from their interviews in the book was probably taken from before their divorce but they might have divorced by the time it was published.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:17 am
Also lots of women who get divorced keep their married name. Name changes are a gigantic pain especially if you've had the same name for decades.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:21 am
I would say the divorce and the fact Dylan asked his mother for a gun are the two biggies to take away from the interview.
So who is going to be the first person here to read the book and see if there are any other gems? Is a thread started yet for the book? And what section of this forum would it be in?
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:49 am
My copy should arrive on Monday morning. I will probably read bits through the week and finish it off next weekend when I don't have work.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:16 pm
In the "Guardian"-article and interview w. Sue it's stated that they were married 43 years. That would make their divorce in 2014, so fairly recent. It also states that it had a lot to do w. the way they grieved individually: "broadly speaking, she looked outwards, he retreated in". If anybody is able to buy the Guardian of today, in the "weekend section" you can find the lenghty article and an extract from Sue's book. It's worth a read. According to this site: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] the article should be on "guardian.com" tomorrow, too.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:48 pm
I felt really sad when they announced that she and Tom have divorced. I know its a difficult thing to try to stay together through, but it still sucks to see this poor woman who has been through the ultimate hell that any mother could ever go through and now shes lost her marriage as well.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:31 pm
DaisyDelRey wrote:
In the Ted talk that Andrew Solomon gave he mentioned that he spent 10 years compiling Far From the Tree and that he met with the klebolds many times over the years. the information from their interviews in the book was probably taken from before their divorce but they might have divorced by the time it was published.
And he stayed in Dylan's old room when he visited Denver to meet with the Klebolds, which had been remodeled.
edit: "remodeled" .. & not due to "mold"
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:38 pm
carrie12 wrote:
In the "Guardian"-article and interview w. Sue it's stated that they were married 43 years. That would make their divorce in 2014, so fairly recent. It also states that it had a lot to do w. the way they grieved individually: "broadly speaking, she looked outwards, he retreated in". If anybody is able to buy the Guardian of today, in the "weekend section" you can find the lenghty article and an extract from Sue's book. It's worth a read. According to this site: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] the article should be on "guardian.com" tomorrow, too.
That would explain the 2014 transfer @ a figure of $575,000, which is well below the market value. The other transactions prior likely reflect refi's.. the Klebolds ran a small property mgmt & mortgage company for the rental homes. Bankruptcy from the civil suits applies here as well.
That's one thing I do not think E&D realized.. not only were their families emotional lives going to be shattered (acknowledged in the basement tapes), but their financial lives as well. Insurance covered the civil suits to a point, but not everything & it obviously drained them as it was stated that the Klebolds filed bankruptcy.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:51 pm
great information thank you Fatheroftwo
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:27 pm
LPorter101 wrote:
Juicy Jazzy wrote:
LPorter101 you are a champ.
I try.
I'm uploading it in SD ... I have an old Dazzle video recorder that can't do HD.
Here are parts 1-5. Part 6 should be up soon:
(Part 1 has some other stuff at the beginning ... I started recording two minutes before the hour and I didn't want to waste time editing it out.)
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:27 pm
they are divorced since 2014. and my impression was that it has to do with sue writing this book. tom and byron didnĀ“t feel comfortable with the idea.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:41 pm
I know I'm late with this but Sue and tom got married in 1971 and they divorced after 30 years of marriage (means in 2001 or 2002 depends on the actual day and everything...). As long as I know Thomas and Byron still live in that house (cougar rd.) but Susan moved out.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:06 pm
lalee wrote:
I know I'm late with this but Sue and tom got married in 1971 and they divorced after 30 years of marriage (means in 2001 or 2002 depends on the actual day and everything...). As long as I know Thomas and Byron still live in that house (cougar rd.) but Susan moved out.
I know that Tom does but I am not sure about Byron
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:18 am
asloversgo wrote:
lalee wrote:
I know I'm late with this but Sue and tom got married in 1971 and they divorced after 30 years of marriage (means in 2001 or 2002 depends on the actual day and everything...). As long as I know Thomas and Byron still live in that house (cougar rd.) but Susan moved out.
I know that Tom does but I am not sure about Byron
Nope, they divorced after 43 years of marriage, in 2014, that's what she wrote on her book. Byron moved out in July of 1997.
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Subject: Re: The Klebolds are DIVORCED Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:12 pm
Why is anyone remotely intetested? What the fuck has this got to do with this country?