"I'm sorry I have so much rage, but you put it in me." 

I just don't think you truly understand how twisted this kid was. Some of what you said is completely false about him. He DID THINK HE WAS ABOVE EVERYBODY ELSE which is why he had a hard time coming to grips with the fact he was at the bottom. He was at the bottom because of his thoughts, his interests, his everything was not pleasing or attractive to others especially females which is why Cullen is so dead wrong about him being a ladies man as LPorter always states.

Now do I think there are many people like Eric? Yes, it's not too far off to assume there were millions just like him at the time (which is coincidentally why he and Dylan have become legends) BUT and a BIG BUT, what separates them from those guys and everybody else today who relates is the one part of the brain that really understands how sick and twisted it really is to murder people let alone innocent people who had absolutely nothing to do with your fight.

I don't deny the fact Eric was intelligent or smooth when it came to technology at the time but the kid used his intelligence in a destructive way. Being bullied is only part of the problem but he had views that were quite frankly, out there. These can't be overlooked when really researching Columbine. You can't just toss "natural selection" aside and think it was just for show because it wasn't. That's who Eric Harris was and that's what he stood for.

Insane or psycho are simplistic terms everybody knows. What other words can we describe Eric by? I'm not exactly sure Eric crying on the basement tapes about some friends or Elliot Rodger loving the beach and fish or Aaron Hernandez having a wife and child can automatically diminish the insane/psycho theories surrounding them because quite frankly, none of that meant shit to them because if it did, they wouldn't have done what they did. So in the end, they're insane and psycho unless we can come up with something else but I sure as hell can't.

Was Dylan crazy too, YES! But a lot was fed by depression. Deep dark depression. Depression was the main factor into why Dylan did what he did and Eric did what he did because he wanted to become famous to feed his ego and just didn't care for society as a whole. Surprisingly some views of his I certainly agree with it but many I don't because I actually have empathy, compassion and sympathy for others and understand how we're supposed to live. Love thy neighbor.

If Eric could have gotten away with it, he would have. This is the main difference between the two.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] This is exactly what I've always thought about Eric and I'm glad you put it into words. Eric hid who he truly was. He was someone who actually cared about people, was depressed, and had low self esteem. People rely on Eric's journal too much but he was writing for an audience and that's why it's not credible. Eric's journal didn't reflect on a lot of who he was and what he felt. In my opinion, it is too easy to pin Eric as a brutal psychopath and Dylan as his depressed follower.

Eric hid who he truly was?  He certainly didn't hide who he was on 4/20/99.  I never thought I'd see the day when someone on this forum would try to convince me that Eric Harris was actually a caring person.

Sane One wrote:

Was Dylan crazy too, YES! But a lot was fed by depression. Deep dark depression. Depression was the main factor into why Dylan did what he did and Eric did what he did because he wanted to become famous to feed his ego and just didn't care for society as a whole. Surprisingly some views of his I certainly agree with it but many I don't because I actually have empathy, compassion and sympathy for others and understand how we're supposed to live. Love thy neighbor.

If Eric could have gotten away with it, he would have. This is the main difference between the two.

Eric was depressed and suicidal too. A point that you constantly ignore. Like I said,  you take little bits and pieces and make an entire theory out of it. It's ridiculous how you keep making excuse after excuse for Dylan (even though he killed people just as much as Eric and was more cruel when doing it).

And isn't Dylan the one who said something along the lines of 'We're going to have so many followers because we're so fucking God like'? And didn't Dylan ramble on about how movie directors were going to fight over their story? So how do you come to the conclusion that Eric was the one who wanted to be famous but Dylan didn't?

Every single point that you've tried to make to back up your 'Eric is a psychopath but Dylan isn't' theory has been unsuccessful. If the points you are giving make Eric a psychopath well then it makes Dylan one too. Even though neither one of them were actually psychopaths.

Every single thing that you've said about Eric applies to Dylan as well as I've pointed out in every post you've made. Why you constantly ignore what I say and just come back with more stuff that you got from their journals is beyond me.

You've tried the 'well Dylan let people go' yea, well so did Eric. You've tried the 'Dylan was suicidal and depressed' and again, so was Eric, he was on an antidepressant and told his doctor he was suicidal. You've tried the 'well Eric was insane and made remarks about how they would be famous' and yet again, SO.DID.DYLAN.

You made your analysis on Eric based on one thing and one thing only and that was his journal. Just like you've based your opinion on Dylan from his journal as well. If you actually looked at the entire picture and all the evidence we have access to, you would not come to the conclusion that Eric was a psychopath and Dylan wasn't. This is what Cullen wants us to believe but it couldn't be further from the truth.

Always an interesting read seeing people disagree who was the worse or more to blame. Two vile creatures whichever way you look at it in my opinion.

Undyne wrote:

Eric hid who he truly was?  He certainly didn't hide who he was on 4/20/99.  I never thought I'd see the day when someone on this forum would try to convince me that Eric Harris was actually a caring person.

My wording wasn't exactly great, sorry. I mean, of course he was a violent person. I meant that he hid some sympathy he had and how depressed he was. He had covered it up by acting "macho" in his journal since he knew it was going to be read by everyone. If he was intending on no one reading his journal, like Dylan did, it probably would have been a lot different.

But he wasn't completely heartless unlike what is mentioned in his journal since he actually seemed to care about his family, friends, and even let some people go instead of blowing up the whole world. Eric was a terrible person who did horrendous things, but you can't say that Dylan wasn't the same. That's my point here.

There are some incidences where Eric was more sympathetic than Dylan was and also vice versa. They both planned it together and could've stopped it but they didn't, so I would say they're equally as bad as each other. And like Jenn says, they were both depressed and suicidal. So I don't understand how people can say Dylan was an innocent depressed teen who was dragged into it by Eric when Dylan wanted to kill people as much as Eric did. If Eric didn't actually care about anyone other than himself, then Dylan didn't care about anyone either. If Eric was a psychopath, then so was Dylan. I don't condone what either of them did, and there's no excuse for it, but I don't think one is less innocent than the other like Cullen and others claim.

Sue Klebold took her psychopath diagnosis from Dr. Peter Langman, Dr. Frank Ochberg, Dr. Mary Ellen O'Toole, and profiler Dwayne Fusilier--indeed, every actual professional who has examined Eric has declared him a psychopath.

Of course, you are all entitled to your own opinion. But you should not be shocked or surprised that people take their opinions from medical researchers rather than message board posters.

Susan is still in denial...
This one line in her interview spoke volumes to me...
"The people that he hurt"
Meaning she has not accepted the fact that he and his friend took equal parts in murdering 13 others. If she said killed instead of hurt, that would have shown she accepts it, but at this point in time she still has not fully accepted what Dylan did.

As a parent myself, I can see where the denial would come from. Nobody wants to think that their child was responsible for a mass murder, or spree murder which ever term you prefer to use.

Those of you who are arguing about Ted Bundy have not read Ann Rule's The Stranger Beside Me.

Ted Bundy showed lots of normal emotions, feelings, etc. He had friends and went on dates. Initially he felt a lot of hesitancy about his actions.

No one ever said a psychopath feels nothing. Just that they feel a lot less. Eric's few tears are an excellent example of the weak emotion of a psychopath. He shows emotion but it is a lot less than a normal person would feel on the same occasion.

Dylan felt "so much rage" about things that had happened in preschool. Give me a break. He was grabbing at straws to try and impress Eric.

Um, actually lasttrain,I have read that book and a lot more about Bundy besides.Ted Bundy was profoundly mentally ill.
The man was a necrophiliac among other things.
Ted Bundy did not show normal emotions.He admitted himself that he was acting much of the time, he didn't understand how or why people related to each other or why they felt the way they did about things.Now I'm sure that Ted had some feelings for his Mom and a few others but
I can see little to no similarities between Bundy and Eric.