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Subject: Library before massacre Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:10 am
Not sure if this has been discussed or in another thread...but does anyone have any photos/video of inside the library before the massacre? I'd like to see the layout and what it was like then. TIA!!
Lizpuff
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:53 am
Oh those might be tough to find. I know the RMN video shows Dylan in a very small snapshot of the computer area....but I don't know if I have seen full shots of the library beforehand
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:05 am
I looked for these before but could only find the murals that are there now and the crime scene ones.
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:33 am
The best is to ask a Columbine alumni. Idk, maybe they might have random photographs or a senior video stashed somewhere.
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archer96
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Pretty certain this was taken before the massacre, not the best picture but does show some sort of an overview! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Pretty certain this was taken before the massacre, not the best picture but does show some sort of an overview! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
This is the remodeled library taken after the massacre.
There is another angle of the remodeled library here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Thanks all for your input! I figured this wouldn't be easy to find if its even possible to find. I do see parts of the library in the aftermath video from the shooting, just random spot where the victims were shot. I'd rather see photos or a video of the library before the massacre to give me a better visual aid, I'm a visual learner :-)
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:50 am
Selah wrote:
There's a small snapshot of it in a home video made by Rachel Scott a year prior to the massacre. It shows the outside a bit. But that's all.
I found that youtube clip to be rather eerie and I've always wondered if there is a longer/unedited version out there. I wonder who edited the clip on youtube as well. Some people have claimed that Rachel apparently did but I'm not so sure.
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:47 am
Their library reminds me of my middle school library
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:26 pm
That looks like the location of Table 15 in the Library
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:02 pm
Thanks for that picture [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]!! I agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that this looks like it would be table [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]?
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:51 am
That looks like the location of Table 15 in the Library
Nice photo. Really gives a great insight on the view Eric and Dylan had during the rampage, how they were shooting at police, etc.
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:06 am
I think that is table 19, under which Cassie died, since it seems to be right next to the window. If it was table 15 it should be a bit farther and you would be able to see the south side of table 20 behind the girl in pink.
Here you have that picture and another one in a better resolution:
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:54 am
Excellent observation [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. So this could quite possibly be the table Eric banged on and knelt down and said the famous "peek-a-boo" before killing Cassie?
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:26 am
It's very much likely Cassie's table too based on the diagram...I remember seeing an aerial or helicopter shot rather of the library where you can see a little inside because of the broken windows and someone speculating that they "could see Cassie's arms or legs" or something - my point is that her table is right next to the window, like in that picture.
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:33 am
The reason it could be Table 15 is because of the bookshelves under the window.
In the FBI library crime scene diagram, the bookshelves under the window run from Window 7 to Window 10 - only Table 19 & Table 20 are beside the bookshelves.
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Subject: Re: Library before massacre Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:28 pm
sororityalpha wrote:
The reason it could be Table 15 is because of the bookshelves under the window.
In the FBI library crime scene diagram, the bookshelves under the window run from Window 7 to Window 10 - only Table 19 & Table 20 are beside the bookshelves.
You're right, I checked the Fire Departmen Video and when Cassie's table is shown (19:51 min) there's no bookshelves next to it. So it should be either table 15 or table 20 in a different position. Good eye