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Photos of him as a kid that were posted on the new version of his Discord. Apparently they're from the ED forums. The dates on the photos are both in 2008, so he was 11 or 12.
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At this point, I am just waiting for media to catch on to the fact that there have been two "mass shooters" on this site in 6 months.
Well tomorrow's the 5 year anniversary of Sandy Hook and Adam was a member of an older columbine forum, so there may be some mention of Will and Randy.

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He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u

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I have some conversations that I had with him if anyone's interested.
They're not that interesting but still.

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InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
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He commented this on his own Steam profile on the 4th September. It seems to be a news article about sexual abuse at Aztec. It's the first time I've seen him actually mention Aztec High on social media.
William wrote:
The boy told detectives Kirkland was close to another student in the drama program. That student was interviewed and told detectives Kirkland had never inappropriately touched him, the affidavit states.
Kirkland was hired in August as the Aztec High School drama teacher after the retirement of Sidley Harrison.
Aztec Municipal School District Superintendent Kirk Carpenter today confirmed that Kirkland was an employee of the district, but said he could not discuss the teacher’s contract.
“I don’t have much to say about it,” he said.
Kirkland is scheduled to appear at a preliminary examination hearing on Aug. 9.

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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

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He mentioned getting bullied so badly that his teeth were knocked out. He didn't mention Aztec but I'm guessing it happened there.
William: my 2 front teeth are permanently broken because of what i went thru
William: the dental work to fix these teeth
William: cause me to have to have it redone every 5 years
William: and i got scars too

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InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
He talked a lot about his success with women, so I think it was just a joke.

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InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
He talked a lot about his success with women, so I think it was just a joke.

Did he only talk about is supposed success with women or did he have proof? Maybe he was Bi and was struggling with it. scratch
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
He talked a lot about his success with women, so I think it was just a joke.

Did he only talk about is supposed success with women or did he have proof? Maybe he was Bi and was struggling with it. scratch
He sent me nudes of the girls he had sex with or he persuaded into giving him them (which I personally did not like). So yes, he gave proof.

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InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
He talked a lot about his success with women, so I think it was just a joke.

Did he only talk about is supposed success with women or did he have proof? Maybe he was Bi and was struggling with it. scratch
He sent me nudes of the girls he had sex with or he persuaded into giving him them (which I personally did not like). So yes, he gave proof.

He had proof of having pictures. You can get those anywhere online, so I really wouldn't consider that as real proof. Was he in a relationship?
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
He talked a lot about his success with women, so I think it was just a joke.

Did he only talk about is supposed success with women or did he have proof? Maybe he was Bi and was struggling with it. scratch
He sent me nudes of the girls he had sex with or he persuaded into giving him them (which I personally did not like). So yes, he gave proof.

He had proof of having pictures. You can get those anywhere online, so I really wouldn't consider that as real proof. Was he in a relationship?
Most likely not. I think he'd just get a girl, have sex and move on.
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
He made me a poem/song thingy and put it on my profile.
Enjoy this work of art.
William wrote:
this bitch is my little sex slave
so what if its a guy i aint gay
i just got somethin for brown eye
regardless of the gender of the dame

i know where u live reve
i got somethin up my sleeve
see this glock bitch now get on the ground
and start suckin my cock swish and spit and work yo mouth all the way down

im gonna fuckin destroy u
pin u down and rape u
and anally devasate u
make you unable or capable to walk anymore
dumb little whore u


I think that the "no homo" jokes are a reference to videos like and he liked that kind of videos


Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect
We (for some reason) he'd send people messages about how he'd suck them off or....uhh.....do a certain thing involving the anus however would add that he isn't gay because he said no homo so it isn't that weird considering that.
and give me your anus homo.
Here's an example.
van bones wrote:
and give me your anus homo

just wax and bleach that stuff first

o and clean yo asshol out

no homo

i aint gay cus if i aint gay i aint gay

imma suk yo dik

Well he did have a way with words didn't he? (Not saying that it was good.) Haha

Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.scratch

Also please keep in mind that I know almost nothing about this case, other then I spotted it and made the first thread on it.
He talked a lot about his success with women, so I think it was just a joke.

Did he only talk about is supposed success with women or did he have proof? Maybe he was Bi and was struggling with it. scratch
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I think you messed up editing your thingy but I still get what you're trying to say.
I think he sent me one of those videos or a similar one by someone else.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] May I ask how you knew this person and for how long?
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Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.

It's more likely that he was kidding seeing as he was a meme man and that "No homo tho" shit is a meme.
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Maybe he was gay, but didn't want to admit it, or was ashamed of it.

It's more likely that he was kidding seeing as he was a meme man and that "No homo tho" shit is a meme.


Probably so.
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I renember he posted on another guy youtube channel telling him that he wanted him to be his girlfriend. he then said no homo. He said stuff like I wanna be your girlfrined no homo and then I renember someone asked him if he was gay and he said no I am just checking to see you aint gay.
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Well that certainly is something else. scratch  Not sure what, but its something. Shocked Suspect

Considering the fact that he was an internet troll, he probably said it for shock value and nothing else.

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I renember he posted on another guy youtube channel telling him that he wanted him to be his girlfriend. he then said no homo. He said stuff like I wanna be your girlfrined no homo and then I renember someone asked him if he was gay and he said no I am just checking to see you aint gay.
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Here's an (unlisted) video on his channel where he uses his webcam and speaks.
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Wikipedia states that "Encyclopedia Dramatica/Kiwi Farms" was his motive.

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Wikipedia states that "Encyclopedia Dramatica/Kiwi Farms" was his motive.

I think that's just a troll. On KF they had previously edited the motive to be "autism". See for yourself.

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Someone on kiwifarms posted this.
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The comment is from a week ago, so right before his shooting. The Mediafire account is suspended but it looks like he may have tried to release some content before the shooting.
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Wikipedia states that "Encyclopedia Dramatica/Kiwi Farms" was his motive.
His motive used to be "Rage".
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The comment is from a week ago, so right before his shooting. The Mediafire account is suspended but it looks like he may have tried to release some content before the shooting.
Fuck. If only someone would've got it sooner. Fucking mediafire.
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The comment is from a week ago, so right before his shooting. The Mediafire account is suspended but it looks like he may have tried to release some content before the shooting.
Fuck. If only someone would've got it sooner. Fucking mediafire.


Has any of that content been released?
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Someone on kiwifarms posted this.
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The comment is from a week ago, so right before his shooting. The Mediafire account is suspended but it looks like he may have tried to release some content before the shooting.
Fuck. If only someone would've got it sooner. Fucking mediafire.


Has any of that content been released?
Probably not.
First Randy, now William. I wish he did what Randy did and posted it everywhere instead of just one place where no one would've found it until a week after.
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Maybe it will slowly trickle out.
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Maybe it will slowly trickle out.
Hopefully it will.
I hope the police there is smarter than Jeffco and knows that releasing stuff that the killer made relating to the attack most likely won't make copycats.
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Maybe it will slowly trickle out.
Hopefully it will.
I hope the police there is smarter than Jeffco and knows that releasing stuff that the killer made relating to the attack most likely won't make copycats.

Anytime I see or hear the name "Jeffco" my eyes just roll. Rolling Eyes It is an almost uncontrollable action. Haha
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Maybe it will slowly trickle out.
Hopefully it will.
I hope the police there is smarter than Jeffco and knows that releasing stuff that the killer made relating to the attack most likely won't make copycats.
A lot of people who study mass murder believe that this sort of content does encourage copycats because shooters often have role models and many of them are motivated by a desire for infamy. I don't know if the release of the content by itself would add to the problem, though it probably could, but I think it's likely that the story would receive more attention from the press if this was released because it would give them material to cover and they always do, no matter how many times they are informed of the possible negative effects. This effectively gives the shooters the infamy that they were looking for and could always encourage potential shooters to follow their lead. I know that many of us are eager to see content created by mass murderers but I don't think we should lie to ourselves and say that it can't possibly be harmful for the police to release their photos, videos and manifestos. A potential shooter does not process content like this in the same way as the average person. It can encourage identification with the shooter, become a blueprint for their own actions or even an inspiration.
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InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Maybe it will slowly trickle out.
Hopefully it will.
I hope the police there is smarter than Jeffco and knows that releasing stuff that the killer made relating to the attack most likely won't make copycats.

Anytime I see or hear the name "Jeffco" my eyes just roll. Rolling Eyes It is an almost uncontrollable action. Haha
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ShadowedGoddess wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Maybe it will slowly trickle out.
Hopefully it will.
I hope the police there is smarter than Jeffco and knows that releasing stuff that the killer made relating to the attack most likely won't make copycats.

Anytime I see or hear the name "Jeffco" my eyes just roll. Rolling Eyes It is an almost uncontrollable action. Haha
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I found a picture of you.
(I tried to make it as bad as possible.)

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The Daily Beast released an article about William's online activities, including his postings on ED and KF. No mention of this site yet.

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Im surprised the media isn't pushing this and blaming Trump's rhetoric for it.

Guess they owe one after they buried the story of the Bernie supporter shooting up Republicans as soon as they could.
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Im surprised the media isn't pushing this and blaming Trump's rhetoric for it.

Most people have long since moved on.

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I don't know how long the IP address logs last but I know that you have mentioned that you have access to member IP addresses in the past and I was wondering whether you would be able to check out the IP location of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. It seems that a moderator on another site was able to do this and confirmed that the account which allegedly belonged to the shooter was posting from the area of the shooting and this would suggest that there is a good chance that his real IP address would have appeared in the logs for this site if he was browsing the forum in the recent past.

If you could do that and these accounts are both confirmed to belong to him, would there be any way to search for similar IP addresses and identify whether he may have had others (assuming that he was not using any program to hide his real location at the time)?
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I don't know how long the IP address logs last but I know that you have mentioned that you have access to member IP addresses in the past and I was wondering whether you would be able to check out the IP location of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. It seems that a moderator on another site was able to do this and confirmed that the account which allegedly belonged to the shooter was posting from the area of the shooting and this would suggest that there is a good chance that his real IP address would have appeared in the logs for this site if he was browsing the forum in the recent past.

If you could do that and these accounts are both confirmed to belong to him, would there be any way to search for similar IP addresses and identify whether he may have had others (assuming that he was not using any program to hide his real location at the time)?
Wait a minute, what are you asking me? I'm confused. Are you implying that the owner of these 2 accounts are accounts of the guy who committed this school shooting in New Mexico? And yea, I do have their IP addresses.

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Are you implying that the owner of these 2 accounts are accounts of the guy who committed this school shooting in New Mexico? And yea, I do have their IP addresses.

This is what we suspect, yes. If that is not the case then I dearly apologize to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for getting them involved into this shit.

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Wait a minute, what are you asking me? I'm confused. Are you implying that the owner of these 2 accounts are accounts of the guy who committed this school shooting in New Mexico? And yea, I do have their IP addresses.
Yes, I am saying that but I am asking because of what [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] posted a few days ago.
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Apparently, William was active on a wide variety of websites and he was more or less obsessed with school shooters so I think it's likely that he posted here on at least one and possibly on multiple accounts.

There was a troll on here for like two days before you banned him around the time I first joined and I specifically remember him because he responded to me directly at one point. He was doing the Nazi act and posting other nonsense, if I remember correctly, which seems to fit Vance's MO. I'm curious about that account too.

Edit: I looked through the memberlist and I'm not 100% sure that this is who I'm thinking of but I believe that this was the account. (Hard to believe that I would forget a name like that but in my defense, it was over a year ago.)
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It would be another reasonable possibility, considering that Vance liked to use the names of shooters online.

On second thought, I guess that even if it was him, it's unlikely that he used his real IP address because regardless of who it was, he probably planned on getting banned from the moment he joined. And it could also have been a random troll. Nazi humor is in fashion these days. (Eric really missed out on some fun times, didn't he?  rabbit )
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Wait a minute, what are you asking me? I'm confused. Are you implying that the owner of these 2 accounts are accounts of the guy who committed this school shooting in New Mexico? And yea, I do have their IP addresses.
Yes, I am saying that but I am asking because of what [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] posted a few days ago.
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Apparently, William was active on a wide variety of websites and he was more or less obsessed with school shooters so I think it's likely that he posted here on at least one and possibly on multiple accounts.

There was a troll on here for like two days before you banned him around the time I first joined and I specifically remember him because he responded to me directly at one point. He was doing the Nazi act and posting other nonsense, if I remember correctly, which seems to fit Vance's MO. I'm curious about that account too.

Edit: I looked through the memberlist and I'm not 100% sure that this is who I'm thinking of but I believe that this was the account.
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It would be another reasonable possibility, considering that Vance liked to use the names of shooters online.

On second thought, I guess that even if it was him, it's unlikely that he used his real IP address because regardless of who it was, he probably planned on getting banned from the moment he joined. And it could also have been a random troll. Nazi humor is in fashion these days. (Eric really missed out on some fun times, didn't he?  rabbit )
OK, well I would need the name of the user who was banned and I can look their account up and get their email address and IP address.

As for the other 2 accounts you asked about. I can confirm, that yes, they both belonged to the same person as they both posted under the same IP addresses and yes, the IP addresses are located in New Mexico.

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Thank you very much for that.

I edited my post and the info is in there now. I think I was referring to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
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Are you implying that the owner of these 2 accounts are accounts of the guy who committed this school shooting in New Mexico? And yea, I do have their IP addresses.

This is what we suspect, yes. If that is not the case then I dearly apologize to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for getting them involved into this shit.
Me too. Sorry if you're not actually him.
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Thank you very much for that.

I edited my post and the info is in there now. I think I was referring to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
No, I know who "smiggles" is and it's not this guy from New Mexico. "smiggles" had an account on the original Columbine forum and went by the name "Alex Jacobii" or something along those lines. And he did share an IP address with another user who is his girlfriend. He was banned but she's still an active member and he's from London not the US.

So I can definitely say that no there is no chance that "smiggles" had any connection with these other 2 accounts.

As for William, he was posting from his actual IP address. He was not using a proxy and was most likely posting from home because his internet provider is Comcast which is a cable company that offers internet. The city his IP is located in is Farmington, New Mexico. I will screenshot it and post it. I'm not gonna give out his actual IP address though.

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Thanks for all of the information! I don't think anyone will care that you aren't giving out the IP address. This seems like a decent amount of proof that the accounts belonged to him.

Is there any way for you to automatically check for every account posting from those IP addresses or would you need to check each name manually?

And I am now curious again because you mentioned the registration e-mail addresses, which I didn't even think of. I guess that just based on location we can't ever be 100% sure that these people were him (no matter how likely) so you would not feel comfortable sharing those, but if you take a look at the lists of his online accounts, can you confirm whether the registration e-mails are listed anywhere on there, either the actual e-mails or any of those usernames/aliases?
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(I thought smiggles might be a longshot but it was definitely worth asking. Thanks for clearing that up. Smile)
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Thanks for all of the information! I don't think anyone will care that you aren't giving out the IP address. This seems like a decent amount of proof that the accounts belonged to him.

Is there any way for you to automatically check for every account posting from those IP addresses or would you need to check each name manually?

And I am now curious again because you mentioned the registration e-mail addresses, which I didn't even think of. I guess that just based on location we can't ever be 100% sure that these people were him (no matter how likely) so you would not feel comfortable sharing those, but if you take a look at the lists of his online accounts, can you confirm whether the registration e-mails are listed anywhere on there, either the actual e-mails or any of those usernames/aliases?
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(I thought smiggles might be a longshot but it was definitely worth asking. Thanks for clearing that up. Smile)
I did check both of his IP addresses and his 2 accounts were the only ones posting from both IP addresses. So no, he did not have a 3rd account registered.

And no neither of his email addresses are on that list. However, when I search his email addresses through Google, one of them does show up in a thread on Kiwi Farms.

So it has been proven 100% that these accounts here on the forum are definitely the school shooter?

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