Video of Eric and Dylan's exact movements during the massacre.

I'm not sure if you guys ever saw this, but here is a very accurate video showing Eric and Dylan's movements throughout the massacre, including their victim's locations and movements.
This gives you a better overall picture of how it all went down, and while it is impossible to be "exact", it is very close.

Very interesting to watch. It really shows how many opportunities they had to try and enter classrooms/offices so they could hurt more people, but they did not.

Littlelo wrote:

Very interesting to watch. It really shows how many opportunities they had to try and enter classrooms/offices so they could hurt more people, but they did not.

Agree. They had countless chances to, yet for some reason didn't. The reasons why they didn't will likely never be known.

Some say they were just done, period. Others think they were still trying to get the bombs to explode etc. Either way they did indeed pass up many people, even made eye contact with them and yet walked on by.

I have no idea why Eric and Dylan ran up to doors randomly then walked away in the opposite direction. Dylan's movements in the library were really odd.

I also don't understand why one stayed back while the other investigated. It's a wonder they didn't get jumped.

Ivan wrote:

I have no idea why Eric and Dylan ran up to doors randomly then walked away in the opposite direction. Dylan's movements in the library were really odd.

I also don't understand why one stayed back while the other investigated. It's a wonder they didn't get jumped.

Was going to ask about this, particularly why Dylan walked over to where Dave Sanders was while Eric stayed behind. I always pictured that encounter differently. Is the video pretty accurate about that?

The creator should've done it in real time instead of speeding it up. In a real-time version you could sync up audio of the Library 911 call to play over the Hallway / Library segment.

Ivan wrote:

I have no idea why Eric and Dylan ran up to doors randomly then walked away in the opposite direction. Dylan's movements in the library were really odd.

I also don't understand why one stayed back while the other investigated. It's a wonder they didn't get jumped.

Well considering E&D were mainly surrounded with a bunch of kids scared out of their minds AND they were both armed is likely the reasons they weren't jumped. IF even such a thing had entered into anyone's mind to try to disarm them in the first place.

Most people's fight or flight instinct is geared more to flight and save your own ass then it is to fight and try to be the Hero.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Ivan wrote:

I have no idea why Eric and Dylan ran up to doors randomly then walked away in the opposite direction. Dylan's movements in the library were really odd.

I also don't understand why one stayed back while the other investigated. It's a wonder they didn't get jumped.

Well considering E&D were mainly surrounded with a bunch of kids scared out of their minds AND they were both armed is likely the reasons they weren't jumped. IF even such a thing had entered into anyone's mind to try to disarm them in the first place.

Most people's fight or flight instinct is geared more to flight and save your own ass then it is to fight and try to be the Hero.

Daniel Mauser gave it a go and he was only a scrawny teenager. If a bigger guy than that cornered them and took away their gun it'd be lights out for them both.

Why cant we see Dylan going in to the cafeteria on the cctv footage? Is it because the placement of the camera is so that he came in from the back of the camera or is it because it changed camera to one where he wasn't visible just when he walked in?

And why does it change camera? why not just have constant footage on all of them? I dont get it

I think many people have searched for Dylan on camera entering the cafeteria early on. I've been told the area he was in and angle of the cameras means he was never caught on tape.

Ivan wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Ivan wrote:

I have no idea why Eric and Dylan ran up to doors randomly then walked away in the opposite direction. Dylan's movements in the library were really odd.

I also don't understand why one stayed back while the other investigated. It's a wonder they didn't get jumped.

Well considering E&D were mainly surrounded with a bunch of kids scared out of their minds AND they were both armed is likely the reasons they weren't jumped.  IF even such a thing had entered into anyone's mind to try to disarm them in the first place.

Most people's fight or flight instinct is geared more to flight and save your own ass then it is to fight and try to be the Hero.

Daniel Mauser gave it a go and he was only a scrawny teenager. If a bigger guy than that cornered them and took away their gun it'd be lights out for them both.

I have never been fully convinced that Daniel attempted to attack/disarm Eric that day.  There are just way to many other things in my opinion that may have lead to the chair being moved/shoved/kicked etc.

It is possible that it was a complete accident on Danial's part. Maybe he was so scared that he accidentally kicked or bumped it while he was hiding under the table. Then Eric just assumed that it was an attempted attack.  We all know that Eric was in full Military mode. So he took out what in his mind was a threat.

I mean is there any solid evidence to prove that it was a definite attempt to distract/disarm Eric? Other then some reporting hearing Dylan say "Did he try to jump you?, and Eric say "Yeah"?

If Danial truly did try to distract Eric or whatever he thought shoving a chair at him would do, then that kid had balls of steel, but it cost him his life.  If the chair hadn't been moved or shoved drawing attention to himself then Eric may not have even noticed him.

Why did Dylan go into the cafeteria?
Did he do it in an attempt to set the bombs off without getting bombed himself?
And why the hell would he then shoot out the windows? Or was it Eric that shot Anne Marie?

Eric shot Ann Marie while Dylan was checking on the bombs in the cafeteria.

Regarding Daniel Mauser- multiple witnesses heard Dylan ask Eric if Daniel had tried to jump him. But I don't know if anyone actually saw what happened, is there a report of that?

Littlelo wrote:

Eric shot Ann Marie while Dylan was checking on the bombs in the cafeteria.

Regarding Daniel Mauser- multiple witnesses heard Dylan ask Eric if Daniel had tried to jump him. But I don't know if anyone actually saw what happened, is there a report of that?

I'm not sure, I can't remember right off the top of my head.  But I think it was just people saying they "Heard" Dylan ask if he was jumped and Eric said "yes" or something along those lines.   Someone correct me if I am wrong!

So In Eric's mind he may have just perceived the chair being moved as a threat, even if it was a total accident on Danial's part.

I wonder if there is a reason why Eric doesn't move so much, other than him probably being better at shooting from a distance.

Check on the bombs, it sounds so stupid. If they would've gone off they would probably have noticed. What if they would have gone off when he went to check on them and he died but Eric survived. I wonder what Eric would have done.

munchkinphone wrote:

I wonder if there is a reason why Eric doesn't move so much, other than him probably being better at shooting from a distance.

Check on the bombs, it sounds so stupid. If they would've gone off they would probably have noticed. What if they would have gone off when he went to check on them and he died but Eric survived. I wonder what Eric would have done.

This is pure speculation but maybe he wanted to see if they had gone off but just not to the extent they were hoping?

If the bombs went off in the commons and Dylan was killed, I think Eric would have killed more people fleeing outside and then killed himself, or tried entering the school and killing himself in there. Depends on the damage that was done.

Littlelo wrote:

Regarding Daniel Mauser- multiple witnesses heard Dylan ask Eric if Daniel had tried to jump him. But I don't know if anyone actually saw what happened, is there a report of that?

This thread has a couple of witness statements about Daniel Mauser.
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munchkinphone wrote:

Why cant we see Dylan going in to the cafeteria on the cctv footage? Is it because the placement of the camera is so that he came in from the back of the camera or is it because it changed camera to one where he wasn't visible just when he walked in?

And why does it change camera? why not just have constant footage on all of them? I dont get it

Dylan walked in the cafeteria near the soda machines which were out of the camera's view. It still shocks me how much of the school they traversed and did absolutely nothing. Maybe they were truly just done...

sscc wrote:

Littlelo wrote:

Regarding Daniel Mauser- multiple witnesses heard Dylan ask Eric if Daniel had tried to jump him. But I don't know if anyone actually saw what happened, is there a report of that?

This thread has a couple of witness statements about Daniel Mauser.
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Thanks for posting this. I still couldn't find anything to confirm if people actually saw Danial shove/kick/nudge the chair as an attempt to "jump" Eric though.

Actually from what I gathered from those two reports it seems even less likely that Danial had tried to attack/jump Eric.

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ShadowedGoddess wrote:

sscc wrote:

Littlelo wrote:

Regarding Daniel Mauser- multiple witnesses heard Dylan ask Eric if Daniel had tried to jump him. But I don't know if anyone actually saw what happened, is there a report of that?

This thread has a couple of witness statements about Daniel Mauser.
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Thanks for posting this. I still couldn't find anything to confirm if people actually saw Danial shove/kick/nudge the chair as an attempt to "jump" Eric though.

Actually from what I gathered from those two reports it seems even less likely that Danial had tried to attack/jump Eric.

It's hard to say what happened from those accounts.

Those were only reports about Daniel that mention a "kick" because that's what the thread that I linked was about. Maybe [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has excerpts detailing other accounts from people who saw what happened with Daniel.

sscc wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

sscc wrote:

Littlelo wrote:

Regarding Daniel Mauser- multiple witnesses heard Dylan ask Eric if Daniel had tried to jump him. But I don't know if anyone actually saw what happened, is there a report of that?

This thread has a couple of witness statements about Daniel Mauser.
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Thanks for posting this. I still couldn't find anything to confirm if people actually saw Danial shove/kick/nudge the chair as an attempt to "jump" Eric though.

Actually from what I gathered from those two reports it seems even less likely that Danial had tried to attack/jump Eric.

It's hard to say what happened from those accounts.

Those were only reports about Daniel that mention a "kick" because that's what the thread I linked was about. Maybe [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has excerpts detailing other accounts from people who saw what happened with Daniel.

Hopefully he can point me in the right direction if not save me completely from having to go over all those witness reports!  

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So... I'm actually the creator of this video
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Even if Daniel didn't jump them it's still possible that out of the 500+ kids there that day one of them would have it in them to jump them alone.

With a guy like Seung Cho I can understand more because he had 2 guns and ammo just ready to go. He also didn't play around like Eric and Dylan.

SMBH_7 wrote:

So... I'm actually the creator of this video
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Thanks for making it!

Ivan wrote:

Even if Daniel didn't jump them it's still possible that out of the 500+ kids there that day one of them would have it in them to jump them alone.

With a guy like Seung Cho I can understand more because he had 2 guns and ammo just ready to go. He also didn't play around like Eric and Dylan.

Yes it is possible that someone in that school very well could have jumped Eric or Dylan, but no one did. Some say Danial may have tried, but that is still up for debate in my opinion.

I agree that Cho was like death stalking, he would have dropped anyone who tried to jump him.

SMBH_7 wrote:

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Great job.

I don't think anyone had enough time to react in a proactive way against E&D. Since there were two gunmen, I imagine anyone who wanted to jump one of them realized the other would just shoot them. It would have had to be two or more students acting together IMO.

Littlelo wrote:

I don't think anyone had enough time to react in a proactive way against E&D. Since there were two gunmen, I imagine anyone who wanted to jump one of them realized the other would just shoot them. It would have had to be two or more students acting together IMO.

I agree. Most kids in that library were probably to scared to remember their own name. It's highly doubtful any would have had the nerve or mental capacity in the moment to try to organize others in an attempt to disarm or subdue Eric or Dylan.

SMBH_7 wrote:

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Thank you so much it was very insightful!

This is really good i wonder if in version 7 we will see ammo casings and what guns they are shooting

On page 5993 Melissa Walker says the time was 11:40 before her and her friend Stephanie Munson got told to escape the school and Stephanie got shot in the ankle, so why does it happen within 11:26 and 11:29 in this video?

Edit: She later changed it to 11:25. I wonder why tho :/

munchkinphone wrote:

On page 5993 Melissa Walker says the time was 11:40 before her and her friend Stephanie Munson got told to escape the school and Stephanie got shot in the ankle, so why does it happen within 11:26 and 11:29 in this video?

Edit: She later changed it to 11:25. I wonder why tho :/

The creator of this video posted in this thread, I'd send that question his way.

slippy123 wrote:

munchkinphone wrote:

On page 5993 Melissa Walker says the time was 11:40 before her and her friend Stephanie Munson got told to escape the school and Stephanie got shot in the ankle, so why does it happen within 11:26 and 11:29 in this video?

Edit: She later changed it to 11:25. I wonder why tho :/

The creator of this video posted in this thread, I'd send that question his way.

Thanks for the advice!

You really do wonder why th3ycdidjt enter different classrooms and suxh, they were probably so disappointed that the bombs failed

shouldbeshot wrote:

You really do wonder why th3ycdidjt enter different classrooms and suxh, they were probably so disappointed that the bombs failed

That's what I think. I don't think they saw a point if the bombs didn't go off; they wanted to kill hundreds, not dozens.

There's also reports that the boys turned on the gas lines in some of the science rooms in an effort to cause more destruction. This should be noted in the video as well. I think it helps explain some of the 'random' paths they took.

REB10 wrote:

There's also reports that the boys turned on the gas lines in some of the science rooms in an effort to cause more destruction. This should be noted in the video as well. I think it helps explain some of the 'random' paths they took.

I never heard that, where is that from?

I've seen it multiple times but here's one link: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Screamingophelia wrote:

REB10 wrote:

There's also reports that the boys turned on the gas lines in some of the science rooms in an effort to cause more destruction. This should be noted in the video as well. I think it helps explain some of the 'random' paths they took.

I never heard that, where is that from?

Comes from the 11k.

They went into science rooms and turned on the gas hoping to start an explosion. They also were starting fires in that wing.

Thank you! I’m surprised I missed that!!

Screamingophelia wrote:

Thank you! I’m surprised I missed that!!

Don't feel bad, this is the first time I've heard about it to.

I do think it's kinda funny that they thought that some gas leaks would cause an explosion. Seems like they watched too many action movies. 

You’d think with all the planning they did, that they should’ve made a plan for if bombs didn’t work! Honestly it seems like they had no idea what they should’ve done when bombs didn’t go off!

Mojo11 wrote:

You’d think with all the planning they did, that they should’ve made a plan for if bombs didn’t work! Honestly it seems like they had no idea what they should’ve done when bombs didn’t go off!

I think it was mostly due to Eric's arrogance. I think he thought he was a master bomb maker. I don't think the thought of the bombs failing ever entered his head

Mojo11 wrote:

You’d think with all the planning they did, that they should’ve made a plan for if bombs didn’t work! 

I would agree with you but I think Eric and Dylan figured that if they weren't able to kill hundreds then there's no real point for a plan B.

I think a reason that they didn't go inside classrooms was because if they were to open a door there was a chance a group of like 6 jocks would charge them or one of them getting knocked in the face by a chair but that's just a theory i have

Does this video say that Dylan shot Danny Rohrbough? I'm skeptical.

I didn't know that Anne Marie Hochhalter was shot at from so far away.

It was crazy to see all those green dots run out of library when e&d left.

I never heard about the gas lines being turned on. I do know they thew a Molotov in a science closet or something of the sort that started a fire that a teacher eventually put out.