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PostSubject: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 pm

Do you think the other one would have gone through with it? I'm speaking mainly in the case of Dylan, since I think Eric would've gone through with it regardless of whether or not he ever even met Dylan, but also because I remember reading somewhere in another topic that Eric was almost shot in the head by the police officer on campus before the two had even entered the school. If Eric had died in that moment, do you think Dylan would have still gone on? Do you think he would have killed himself right there? Turned himself into the police?

Another question: what do you think would have happened had it just been Eric that did all the killing? What if Dylan still brought his gun and everything, but never killed or even fired shots at anyone? Do you think he'd be in prison right now? (assuming he didn't kill himself or get shot by the police) Do you think he might get off the hook, or at the very least a shorter sentence?

I've been thinking about these two questions a lot lately and was curious to see what you all think.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 19, 2018 7:27 am

HMM scratch Well in my opinion if Eric had been killed during the shoot out I think Dylan would have likely killed himself right there. As he probably would realize that if he was caught he wouldn't get the chance again.

In the event Dylan had been the Dave Cullen version of himself that day, if he had survived he most likely could have used a insanity defense. If he stuck with the "I just wanted to die and I never killed or even shot my weapon" then he could have gotten a lighter sentence. OR he could have been used as a scapegoat, much like Mark Manes and Phil Duran were. He likely would have been punished for all of Eric's killings, having prior knowledge, etc. It could have went either way.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 19, 2018 8:36 am

There are a lot of different scenarios, but if Eric was killed right before they entered the school I think Dylan would have continued on inside. He definitely still would have committed suicide but who knows how many people (if any) he'd have shot inside the school first.

If Dylan was caught before he had even fired his gun he would still face pretty serious charges IMO. It was clear he had intent. Police would have later seen his journals and the tapes they made. He'd be screwed.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 19, 2018 10:45 am

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There are a lot of different scenarios, but if Eric was killed right before they entered the school I think Dylan would have continued on inside. He definitely still would have committed suicide but who knows how many people (if any) he'd have shot inside the school first.

If Dylan was caught before he had even fired his gun he would still face pretty serious charges IMO. It was clear he had intent. Police would have later seen his journals and the tapes they made. He'd be screwed.

It would change the narrative as well. If Dylan were alive it would be harder to paint him as the follower and the naive one. He would be blamed a lot more than Eric.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 19, 2018 11:15 am

If Dylan hadn't shot anyone, he'd have been arrested like the guy who assisted Timothy McVeigh, I think he got life in prison for being an accomplice to murder.

I am not sure about what Eric or Dylan would have done if the other died. Perhaps the survivor would have spun into uncontrollable rage and began screaming and kicking and shooting everything in sight in the halls. Or just focused on detonating the bombs or taking pot shots out the library window to avenge the other one and forgot about killing students and just focused on taking out the police.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 19, 2018 11:19 am

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If Dylan hadn't shot anyone, he'd have been arrested like the guy who assisted Timothy McVeigh, I think he got life in prison for being an accomplice to murder.

I am not sure about what Eric or Dylan would have done if the other died. Perhaps the survivor would have spun into uncontrollable rage and began screaming and kicking and shooting everything in sight in the halls. Or just focused on detonating the bombs or taking pot shots out the library window to avenge the other one and forgot about killing students and just focused on taking out the police.

I can see that. They were pretty connected, they were going to kill and die together and that was that.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 19, 2018 1:59 pm

I think if one of them had gotten killed by an officer early on the other would've panicked. Dylan probably would've shot himself right then and there. Eric I'm not sure about, although it's hard to imagine him continue without anyone to back him up.

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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeWed Apr 07, 2021 1:31 pm

If Eric did get shot and killed then I guess Dylan would have been shocked from seeing Eric dead, I don't think he could have continued the massacre, I assume he then would have killed himself as well.
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeThu Apr 08, 2021 2:46 am

I think both of them would go ahead with the massacre even if one was killed. Of course the bodycount it would be different probably less but we can hear dylan's rage during the 911 call, as others said before I think it would even make them feel more anger
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PostSubject: Re: What if one of them died during the shooting?   What if one of them died during the shooting? Icon_minitimeSat Apr 17, 2021 7:47 am

We'd know a lot more if one of them would have survived because they'd have been put on trial; the media would have swarmed it. They damn sure wouldn't have destroyed evidence because they're have needed it to keep him in prison.

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