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PostSubject: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 2:52 pm

What shooters would have been declared insane had they survived?

Adam Lanza?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 4:07 pm

If Jared Lee Loughner wasn't found insane, then nobody would.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 4:14 pm

I think for a person to be declared insane would mean they wouldn't know what they were doing, or more so not know that what they were doing was wrong. If a person can tell the difference between right and wrong, good or evil they are declared sane.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 4:30 pm

I would think definitely Lanza, especially with his apparent hallucinations and delusional thinking. I highly doubt there are any other shooters that would get off the hook as easily, except MAYBE Cho.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 6:25 pm

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I would think definitely Lanza, especially with his apparent hallucinations and delusional thinking. I highly doubt there are any other shooters that would get off the hook as easily, except MAYBE Cho.

adam wanst insane, insanity is complete detachment. adam was able to research killers and choose a weapon
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 7:38 pm

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I think for a person to be declared insane would mean they wouldn't know what they were doing, or more so not know that what they were doing was wrong. If a person can tell the difference between right and wrong, good or evil they are declared sane.

I don't think people like Lanza or Holmes or Loughner or quite a few others truly knew what they were doing or understood that killing people was bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 9:50 pm

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04daviszoe wrote:
I think for a person to be declared insane would mean they wouldn't know what they were doing, or more so not know that what they were doing was wrong. If a person can tell the difference between right and wrong, good or evil they are declared sane.

I don't think people like Lanza or Holmes or Loughner or quite a few others truly knew what they were doing or understood that killing people was bad.

I just realised I didn't even pick a shooter LOL I knew there was a reason I woke up just now in the middle of night! I don't even know where I stand. In comparison to say... Let's go with E/D, who knew what they were doing was wrong, yet did it anyway, I see where you're coming from. What happened with James Holmes in the end? Didn't he once say that for every person he killed he would somehow inherit one of  their personal positive qualities?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2018 11:48 pm

04daviszoe wrote:
What happened with James Holmes in the end? Didn't he once say that for every person he killed he would somehow inherit one of  their personal positive qualities?

I honestly don't know; I tried to read his journal and it was a borderline incomprehensible mess.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 12:11 am

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I honestly don't know; I tried to read his journal and it was a borderline incomprehensible mess.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 1:32 am

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I honestly don't know; I tried to read his journal and it was a borderline incomprehensible mess.
Here's a transcript of it:
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While much more readable I'm still having a hard time following the words. Thank you regardless.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 10:29 am

Fuck insane killers, insane intruders are the real cool kids.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 10:31 am

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Fuck insane killers, insane intruders are the real cool kids.

Fame has really gone to your head...
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 10:32 am

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Fuck insane killers, insane intruders are the real cool kids.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 10:36 am

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Fuck insane killers, insane intruders are the real cool kids.

Fame has really gone to your head...
And my head is in your house right now. Oh and did you know that demons told me to break into your house?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 14, 2018 10:37 am

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Fuck insane killers, insane intruders are the real cool kids.

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What I meant by "insane intruder" is an insane man breaking into someone's home, therefor they are an intruder that is insane.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeFri Mar 16, 2018 6:35 pm

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If Jared Lee Loughner wasn't found insane, then nobody would.

I thought he was?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeFri Mar 16, 2018 8:04 pm

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If Jared Lee Loughner wasn't found insane, then nobody would.

I thought he was?

Initially he was found to be unfit for trial and was medicated until he was mentally well enough to be tried.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Mar 20, 2018 6:33 pm

Aaron Alexis The DC Navy Yard Shooter was declared Insane despite dying in the shooting, He said that he was being controlled with microwave frequencies.

I do think Adam was very disturbed and had Psychosis but i do not think he was disturbed enough to be Insane. Insane people or extremely severe sufferers of Psychosis and Schizophrenia normally have random extreme psychotic episodes which causes them to swiftly and impulsively plan and commit an attack or go into a Psychotic rage and injure/kill as many as they can in the surrounding area. Insane killers are normally extremely dangerous and will have incredible strength, speed and determination whilst in there rages and on their rampages.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Mar 21, 2018 1:01 am

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Aaron Alexis The DC Navy Yard Shooter was declared Insane despite dying in the shooting, He said that he was being controlled with microwave frequencies.


That reminds me of this.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeFri Mar 23, 2018 11:06 am

Jennifer San Marco Was batshit
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeSat Mar 24, 2018 2:06 pm

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“What shooters would have been declared insane had they survived?”


Not only is he alive but he was declared insane
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeSat Mar 24, 2018 11:12 pm

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“What shooters would have been declared insane had they survived?”


Not only is he alive but he was declared insane

Me and Insane know literally about every shooter
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeSat Mar 24, 2018 11:49 pm

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“What shooters would have been declared insane had they survived?”


Not only is he alive but he was declared insane

Me and Insane know literally about every shooter


That is irrelevant he is ALIVE read the question.

P.s good for you i do also.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeSun Mar 25, 2018 1:09 am

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“What shooters would have been declared insane had they survived?”


Not only is he alive but he was declared insane

Me and Insane know literally about every shooter
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeSun Jul 01, 2018 5:16 pm

Tristan Van der Vlis could have been declared insane had he lived?

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2018 6:52 am

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Tristan Van der Vlis could have been declared insane had he lived?

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Possibly although I doubt it.

Robert Sartin was declared insane after he committed the Monkseaton shootings.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeMon Aug 06, 2018 3:37 pm

Any premeditation makes it very unlikely for a Shooter to be declared insane?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeMon Aug 06, 2018 4:21 pm

I think Randy could pass as being insane.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeMon Aug 06, 2018 5:58 pm

Ziamber II wrote:
What shooters would have been declared insane had they survived?

Adam Lanza?

You mean court-wise, or psychology wise? Its not the same thing.

Psychology wise, most shooters suffered from some mental disorder, usually depression + some additional personality diosorder or psychotic disorder.

Legal wise? I think Randy Stair would probably be declared sane by court-standards. Cho or Lanza not so much

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Aug 07, 2018 8:26 am

Not a mass shooting and i dont know if this qualifies but Tawar. He cut his own genitals and began attacking people, killing four people and injuring seven others with a pisau belati, a large knife, two seriously in Surabaya, Indonesia on December 25, 1955. When he was arrested he told police he was possessed by the spirit of Tunggul Wulung, whereupon he was brought to hospital. I don't know if this guy died after the rampage, or survived, but if he survived, then he was surely found to be insane.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeTue Aug 07, 2018 4:59 pm

Enesbrietchvonfrederitch wrote:
Not a mass shooting and i dont know if this qualifies but Tawar. He cut his own genitals and began attacking people, killing four people and injuring seven others with a pisau belati, a large knife, two seriously in Surabaya, Indonesia on December 25, 1955. When he was arrested he told police he was possessed by the spirit of Tunggul Wulung, whereupon he was brought to hospital. I don't know if this guy died after the rampage, or survived, but if he survived, then he was surely found to be insane.

puts a new meaning to going nuts
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Aug 08, 2018 10:48 am

Nasim Najafi Aghdam Was pretty insane
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Aug 08, 2018 6:11 pm

Even though Charles Whitman was aware of the fact that it was wrong what he was doing, he was mentally ill due to his brain disease. He would probably have been declared insane.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeThu Aug 09, 2018 5:31 am

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Even though Charles Whitman was aware of the fact that it was wrong what he was doing, he was mentally ill due to his brain disease. He would probably have been declared insane.


Disease ? Didn’t he have a tumur ?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeThu Aug 09, 2018 6:07 am

Well, isn't brain tumor a sort of brain disease?
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeThu Aug 09, 2018 8:35 am

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Well, isn't brain tumor a sort of brain disease?


Im not sure to be honest with you
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeThu Aug 09, 2018 8:56 am

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I think Randy could pass as being insane.
Yea, I agree with this. Randy is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that was probably insane.

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I still think it would be unlikely that Randy would be declared insane had he not become an hero.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeWed Sep 19, 2018 1:36 pm

What about James Huberty? He tried to get help on a mental help hotline, but failed.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2021 10:23 pm

Andrew Wurst thought:
- He was the only real person, everyone else was "dead or unreal"
- Everyone had "time tablets" that determined their personality
- Maybe that he himself was dead and came back
- That he was an alien, his parents weren't really his parents, and he was sent to Earth at age four to stop a catastrophe
- That he had an arch enemy trying to foil his mission
- That everyone was trying to screw him over
- That nothing was real and everyone was actually unconscious in hospital beds being watched or controlled by the government, mad scientists, or "psychos."
- He worried there were monsters under his bed or in his closet.
He also heard voices and had paranoid delusions. The poor kid was a mess.

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- Was paranoid
- Worried there were monsters under his bed or in his close
- Thought that demons were after him and that if he told anyone or asked for help the demons would go after them
- Put towels over the bathroom vents to stop snakes from climbing through.
- Jumped from one object to another to avoid touching the floor to protect from monsters
- Covered his body with towels after showers to protect against monsters
- Drank white correctional fluid and wore a Twister mat as a cape at school
- Thought a man lived under his house with a chainsaw, so he put metal objects under his bed to stop him from cutting his legs off

He also heard voices and had distorted thought processes and poor understanding of social interaction. He may also have thought he was an alien.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeMon Jul 05, 2021 9:35 am

Kip Kinkel thought that Disney had implanted a chip in his brain, and US gun control would leave the US defenseless against a Chinese invasion.

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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeFri May 06, 2022 2:16 pm

dyonqqr wrote:
Andrew Wurst thought:
- He was the only real person, everyone else was "dead or unreal"
- Everyone had "time tablets" that determined their personality
- Maybe that he himself was dead and came back
- That he was an alien, his parents weren't really his parents, and he was sent to Earth at age four to stop a catastrophe
- That he had an arch enemy trying to foil his mission
- That everyone was trying to screw him over
- That nothing was real and everyone was actually unconscious in hospital beds being watched or controlled by the government, mad scientists, or "psychos."
- He worried there were monsters under his bed or in his closet.
He also heard voices and had paranoid delusions. The poor kid was a mess.

Michael Carneal:
- Was paranoid
- Worried there were monsters under his bed or in his close
- Thought that demons were after him and that if he told anyone or asked for help the demons would go after them
- Put towels over the bathroom vents to stop snakes from climbing through.
- Jumped from one object to another to avoid touching the floor to protect from monsters
- Covered his body with towels after showers to protect against monsters
- Drank white correctional fluid and wore a Twister mat as a cape at school
- Thought a man lived under his house with a chainsaw, so he put metal objects under his bed to stop him from cutting his legs off

He also heard voices and had distorted thought processes and poor understanding of social interaction. He may also have thought he was an alien.
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PostSubject: Re: Insane shooters   Insane shooters Icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2022 1:26 am

I don't think Adam Lanza would have been declared insane had he survived the shooting.
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