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lets say this, boom, some how there are NO guns in america not even a 22. lr. Only cops have guns. I think we will see a shit load more bombings, like, timothy mcveigh didn't shoot anyone during his bombing, but he still killed 168 people. And of course, there were smaller bombings, even recently that bomber down in texas. People take what they can get, yeah, it is easier to use a gun, but if you take that, I think there would be more bombings. And people like to say "go look at like london or some shit, they have no mass shootings" Yeah, but they have truck rammers and stabbings. if we got rid of guns then we would have rammers, stabbers, and bombers. You can do what ever you can to make it so some one can't kill a ton of people, but to stop it, you gotta make it so they don't want to kill a ton of people.
I agree there would still be some cases of things like bombings - however, Columbine has taught us that these are tricky plans to pull off. Successful ones like McVeigh & Breivik seem to require a shit load of money, skill and time that high school kids won’t have. Stabbings could increase you’re right, but I know which i’d rather face between a gunman and a knife-wielding maniac.
I think if there weren’t any guns available to someone like Lanza for example, I don’t think he would have gone on any sort of rampage at all.
One thing is mixing AN with fuel oil, but synthesizing the primary and high explosives (Diazodinitrophenol and picric acid) Breivik did is a very laborious process that is not something a high school kid would even attempt. I can only imagine the outcome if Eric and Dylan had access to chemicals such as those. They'd probably find a way to screw that up too.
Subject: Re: Parkland activist bullied Cruz? Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:07 pm
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Subject: Re: Parkland activist bullied Cruz? Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:52 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
That Emma Gonzales looks like a man.
A goblin man, specifically.
_________________ "If opportunities for role fulfilment fall far short of the demand by those capable of filling roles, and having expectations to do so, only violence and disruption of social organization can follow. Individuals born under these circumstances will be so out of touch with reality as to be incapable even of alienation. Their most complex behaviors will become fragmented. Acquisition, creation and utilization of ideas appropriate for life in a post-industrial cultural-conceptual-technological society will have been blocked." - John B. Calhoun
But who am I kidding? Users of this board have always been pathologically incapable of criticizing the actions of murderers prior to their violent spree because they were all molded that way by an unjust society. Whereas every other human being on the face of the Earth who happens to be an asshole just sort of chose to be that way with zero pressure from anyone.
I know, this isn't Tumblr or Twitter, not everyone thinks the same way you do. A real tragedy I'm sure.
Thats ignorant, come on. Thats like saying all white people are bad. Being middle eastern, doesnt make you a fanatic, just like being an american doesnt make you a gun toting Trump supporter.
People have a tendency to judge simply based on what they see on TV
Subject: Re: Parkland activist bullied Cruz? Wed May 06, 2020 10:29 am
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Subject: Re: Parkland activist bullied Cruz? Wed May 06, 2020 11:00 am
A lot this boils down to Cruz' own disturbing behaviour. Theres a lot of information out there about this. It had less to do with him being bullied. Theres a lot to suggest that he was extremely troubled up until the massacre and this is where someone should have intervened long before he carried out the shooting
Subject: Re: Parkland activist bullied Cruz? Wed May 06, 2020 11:13 am
Seemed to work with serial killers like Bundy, why not Cruz?
What does this mean? Worked how?
After someone has embarked on a rampage of any kind in my mind they have reliquished their right to be classed as or considered human. That includes being treated with humanity.
Last I checked they didn't spontaneously metamorphize into a non-human. They're still biologically human, still have human feelings and wants and needs.
1) Gave grieving families closure. 2) They gave up their right to be treated as or considered human with their actions.
Besides the point, because its important to have a system in place that actually works. Death penalty doesnt, at least not from what I know.
Also, this is why the death penalty is in decline globally. Even highly Conservative countries like Iran have seen a downfall in the number of exectutions. Its on its way down, all over the world. Has been since 1990. Most of the western world doesnt use the death penalty any more. Ecept for the US, its mainly used by countries such as China, Saudi Arabia, Iran. Countries that we dont want to compare ourselves with. Much like Hitchens pointed out, the best we can do is to abolish it entirely.
This is why the anti gun rhetoric is grinding my gears!! Nobody wants to look at whether public school is even an appropriate educational method for students like Nikolas Cruz. If he was such a problem to/with everyone around him then for crying out loud, put him in online homeschool! After coronavirus forced public schools and universities to move online in short notice for a while, I am not buying the excuses about the alleged necessity of in-person education. As a gun enthusiast and survivor of institutional harassment I am disgusted that these students are being trotted out and put on display to justify robbing Americans of our constitutional rights, just so they can reinforce their pecking orders with impunity and turn a blind eye to the critical failure state of our schools.
The one motive nearly all of these mass killers have in common is a sense of powerlessness in the face of humiliation and injustice without peaceful recourse. Now imagine trying to prevent massacres by replicating those conditions for every American citizen, by violating their right to keep and bear arms.