What's something about a mass shooter only you (or very few people) know?

Russianman wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] it's just from documentary.

To add on to that, it’s from the Evil Lives Here episode about Robert Hawkins.

Primate Murder wrote:

Russianman wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] it's just from documentary.

To add on to that, it’s from the Evil Lives Here episode about Robert Hawkins.

Yeah, that's where I heard it from. Are you saying that it isn't true? Admittedly, it isn't too unknown but I didn't know it until I watched the episode.

Carnifex879 wrote:

Primate Murder wrote:

Russianman wrote:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] it's just from documentary.

To add on to that, it’s from the Evil Lives Here episode about Robert Hawkins.

Yeah, that's where I heard it from. Are you saying that it isn't true? Admittedly, it isn't too unknown but I didn't know it until I watched the episode.

I was just trying to clarify what documentary Russianman was talking about.

Not a mass shooter and some people might know this, but if anyone wants to know who drove the van in the London Bridge attack, most of the evidence points to...

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Bonus:

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Mehdi Nemmouche almost got door cucked. He prevented his fate by destroying the lock of an office with his rifle.

Satoshi Uematsu drew many pictures in prison, including a manga, a self-portrait, Franz Kafka, a table, and more.

kittycat wrote:

Only 3 out of the 11 "facts" you posted have any truth in them. Posting incorrect information damages not only your own reputation (ie: if this is all rubbish then there's a high possibility that your other posts are) but also leaves a negative lasting imprint for anyone trying to research the case.

What are you talking about? 3? All of those facts are true. I have researched that case for ten years. If anyone here is posting incorrect information, it's you. The sources include newspaper articles, documentaries and the official report on the shooting. What are your sources? Where did you get the number 3 from?

Micah Johnson sang Proud Mary during his standoff.

Dimitrios Pagourtzis went to a water park on a class field trip the day before his shooting.

Adam Lanzas father took him to see Bill Cosby.

William Atchison was suspended from Aztec High School in 2012 for writing the schedule of the Columbine shooting on a white board.

Screamingophelia wrote:

One of Dylan Klebolds nicknames was Quackers. Not many people know that.

It's a hard question because this is a research board so a lot of brilliant people reside here...

I mean if you were going to say what do I know that my mom doesn't... well...

Why the nickname and what source?

Pekka-Eric Auvinen uploaded a video of him pointing his gun at the camera with Alice Coopers "Wicked Young Man" (Or KMFDM's Son Of A Gun can't remember which one maybe it was 2 separate videos) playing a little bit before his "Jokela High School Massacre 07/11/2007" video except that video wasn't a warning video, just him trying to be edgy

TheOne99 wrote:

Pekka-Eric Auvinen uploaded a video of him pointing his gun at the camera with Alice Coopers "Wicked Young Man" (Or KMFDM's Son Of A Gun can't remember which one maybe it was 2 separate videos)  playing a little bit before his "Jokela High School Massacre 07/11/2007" video except that video wasn't a warning video, just him trying to be edgy

Do you know if that video is available on the internet somewhere?

Patrick Crusius got in trouble for going to class drunk a few months before the El Paso shooting. Here’s the letter he received from the college:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

About Randy Stair:
-The Unleash the Candy video's name and song was based on a song from My Little Pony, called "Unleash the Magic."

-Randy's grandfather, (the one that collected guns, and whose guns he was planning to use to kill himself at some point) died on October of this year, at the age of 80.

-On a livestream from 2014, Randy said that he hated women (while talking about sex).

-One of the wristbands that Randy used for years, that had Tom Lynch's name on it, also had the name of a youtuber called Nathan Wills. Nathan Wills killed himself on 2012.

-The EGS tape “A Promise Kept” was dedicated to a fangirl, Sammy. He also mentions her on the Drive 02 suicide tape, when he’s ranting about self-harm.

The boyfriend that mentions at the end of this EGS tape is Imatu, another fan from when Randy was with the Pioneers Productions channel still. Imatu was probably the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] fan of Randy, and he saved a lot of videos and audios over the years; before they got this “fight” on 2014/15.

Mehdi Nemmouche was given the nickname, "Abu Omar the Hitter", because of the way he would violently beat his prisoners in Syria. He also bragged about raping a woman before cutting her throat and beheading her baby.

Primate Murder wrote:

Mehdi Nemmouche was given the nickname, "Abu Omar the Hitter", because of the way he would violently beat his prisoners in Syria. He also bragged about raping a woman before cutting her throat and beheading her baby.

He sure sounds like a ray of sunshine.

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Not a mass shooter, but Alex Hribal watched a documentary on Columbine the night before he committed the Franklin Regional High School Stabbing.

The other two terrorists at the Bataclan laughed when Samy Amimour died.

Salah Abdeslam actually got interviewed by a Belgian TV crew. The interview took place at a roadblock at the Belgian border. Salah Abdeslam was trying to flee to Brussels during the time. When the interviewer asked Abdeslam about his opinion on the roadblock, Abdeslam replied: "Yes, it’s normal, in the circumstances. We have to reinforce our borders, right?"

Thomas Hamilton once attempted to kill one of his assistant's from one of his old boys clubs at his flat months before the shooting:

Source: The Sheltered Storm Chapter 10

"4th February, 1996

Private Residence — Kent Rd, Stirling

A longtime friend of the scoutmaster’s, a young man who had assisted with some of his boys’ clubs in the early years, stopped by his flat one day to check on him.

The man who greeted him seemed depressed, but invited him in. The scoutmaster was cleaning his guns as they talked, and had his new 9mm in his hand when he suddenly asked his old friend a surprising question: “If you had any sons, would you let them go to my clubs?”

His friend didn’t even have to think it over. “No.”

The scoutmaster suddenly pointed the gun at him, and pulled the trigger.

It wasn’t loaded, and produced only a click, but it gave the scoutmaster’s guest — who was in the middle of sipping his coffee — an awful fright. The friend cursed the scoutmaster, threw the coffee in his face, called him a “stupid bastard,” and stormed out. He resolved never to contact the awful man ever again — but he didn’t report the incident to police, certain that, “He would just have denied it.”

Although not a mass shooter, Mark Anthony Conditt said that if he thought the police were closing in on him, he would pull off a suicide bombing in a McDonald’s.

TheOne99 wrote:

Thomas Hamilton once attempted to kill one of his assistant's from one of his old boys clubs at his flat months before the shooting:

Source: The Sheltered Storm Chapter 10

"4th February, 1996

Private Residence — Kent Rd, Stirling

A longtime friend of the scoutmaster’s, a young man who had assisted with some of his boys’ clubs in the early years, stopped by his flat one day to check on him.

The man who greeted him seemed depressed, but invited him in. The scoutmaster was cleaning his guns as they talked, and had his new 9mm in his hand when he suddenly asked his old friend a surprising question: “If you had any sons, would you let them go to my clubs?”

His friend didn’t even have to think it over. “No.”

The scoutmaster suddenly pointed the gun at him, and pulled the trigger.

It wasn’t loaded, and produced only a click, but it gave the scoutmaster’s guest — who was in the middle of sipping his coffee — an awful fright. The friend cursed the scoutmaster, threw the coffee in his face, called him a “stupid bastard,” and stormed out. He resolved never to contact the awful man ever again — but he didn’t report the incident to police, certain that, “He would just have denied it.”

There is an official report on Dunblane...

Primate Murder wrote:

Although not a mass shooter, Mark Anthony Conditt said that if he thought the police were closing in on him, he would pull off a suicide bombing in a McDonald’s.

That’s really interesting. I remember hearing about the Austin bombings, I always thought he was pretty mysterious. Can you show me where you heard this from?

Primate Murder wrote:

Carnifex879 wrote:

Primate Murder wrote:

Although not a mass shooter, Mark Anthony Conditt said that if he thought the police were closing in on him, he would pull off a suicide bombing in a McDonald’s.

That’s really interesting. I remember hearing about the Austin bombings, I always thought he was pretty mysterious. Can you show me where you heard this from?

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That’s pretty scary. He could have killed a lot more people if he was successful. I wish they’d release his confession, but he described how he built the bombs so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re never made public.

Chris Harper Mercer wore a satanic pentagram necklace during his shooting.

A few more about Randy Stair:
-On February 28, 2010; Randy made a fundraiser for autism (“Bowling for Autism”), as part of a project for high school. On February 15, a local newspaper published an article about the fundraiser, and included a photo of Randy. He talks a little bit about it on this video (starts at around 4 minutes): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
He also had a cousin that has autism.

-Randy’s family appeared on the show “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon”, on August 13, 2009.
Quote from a twit message: “If you watch the end of @LateNightWithJimmyFallon my dad, mom, uncle, and aunt are in the credits on camera. My uncle is wearing orange.”

-Oh, and Randy’s dad was adopted (I don’t think that’s a very known fact). And he, his father, never knew his biological parents. I wonder if there was any history of mental illness on that side of Randy’s family.

  

  

MrHorror93700 wrote:

Eric And Dylan didn't used their knives during the shooting because they didn't have enough courage to stab someone

(Stabbing and shooting are really two different feeling)

Weren't there some rumors that Dylan stabbed someone's dead body and Eric was like "Yuck!"?

Not a mass shooting but similar type of perpetrators, so may be of interest...Kam McLeod/Bryer Schmegelsky case:

*Kam and Bryer had been in a car accident together with another friend about 15 months before the spree. Reportedly it had been a pretty severe accident but this is still not 100% confirmed.

*Kam got the truck they left in three months before the spree.

*Several of Kam's relatives died prematurely in the years leading up to the spree.

*Bryer played a lot of video games that were about strategy, war, empires, etc.

*Kam was into synthwave music, "chill" types of electronic music, etc. He also had a Pinterest page where he liked pictures of space and landscape photography.

*Several of Bryer's Steam screenshots show him using a gun in-game that looked exactly like the brown SKS rifle they were found with. Kam used an SKS rifle in a PUBG video he posted that looked similar to the black SKS rifle they were found with.

*The place where their bodies were found wasn't that remote. It was only 0.3 miles from the highway, and had hunting/ATV trails running very close to it. Most of the items the police found scattered were within 1000 feet to 1/2 mile of the RAV4 burn site, and either right beside a road or in a creek, yet they didn't find them until a week after the RAV4 was burned.

Nathaniel Berhow was the first to find his father dead after a heart attack. That must have really messed him up.

Guest wrote:

It can also be about the mass shooting.

These are mine:

- Adam Lanza once asked a classmate for a cigarette in university

- Robert Hawkins didn't just break up with his girlfriend like every single media outlet told you. He in fact cheated on her with a co-worker at McDonald's and SHE broke up with HIM. Also he committed suicide up the chin according to his autopsy and not through the head like Wikipedia told you.

- Jamal Albarghouti's cellphone that recorded the shooting at Virginia Tech is now at the Newseum at DC.

- Eric Harris admitted he's not a sociopath because he says he feels remorse. (in an unreleased tape)

- Devin Patrick Kelley's sexual assaults dated back to when he was 13.

- There is no evidence of Omar Mateen being bipolar. His ex-wife saying he was bipolar is not necessarily a diagnosis.

- Stephen Paddock moaned and screamed "Oh my god!" in his sleep.

I'm one of very few people that actually interacted with Adam Lanza if that counts.

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Aaron Ybarra planned to commit suicide by slitting his throat instead of shooting himself, but failed to do so. His father also attempted suicide the same way.

One of Woo Bum-kon's nicknames was "Crazy Tiger".

Not sure how rare it is but the bullet hole is still in the wall where Roger E. Needham shot two students (1 fatality) in Lansing, Michigan, on February 22, 1978, at Everett High School. Locker C2-069.

Jens Rüther, the 2018 Munich Van attacker, went to the Bataclan theater concert a couple weeks before the terrorist shooting.

Arcan Cetin planned to target the movie theater at Cascade Mall by wedging his phone into the exit door. It was noticed by someone and taken out. Arcan realized this and claimed his phone was missing, so he got it back. About a half hour later he walked into the Macy’s store and began his shooting.

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Duluth wrote:

Carnifex879 wrote:

Arcan Cetin planned to target the movie theater at Cascade Mall by wedging his phone into the exit door. It was noticed by someone and taken out. Arcan realized this and claimed his phone was missing, so he got it back. About a half hour later he walked into the Macy’s store and began his shooting.

It's somewhat similar to James Holmes (Aurora movie theater shooting; 12 killed, 62 wounded) deciding to prop open the fire exit door to Theater 9.

My guess is he must have drawn some inspiration from Holmes. Those people in the theater were lucky his original plan failed.

One of the Boston Marathon bombers, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, along with his friend, Ibragim Todashev, murdered 3 drug dealers in their apartment in 2011. I find it interesting how quite a few Islamic terrorists in developed countries start off as petty criminals, then become radicalized.

Primate Murder wrote:

The other two terrorists at the Bataclan laughed when Samy Amimour died.

That’s pretty shitty of them. Then again, I don’t expect much more from guys who massacred a concert crowd.

James Holmes tried to call a mental health hotline at his university right before he opened fire in the Aurora movie theater. No one answered.

Adam Lanza was invited to a bar by female classmates at Western Connecticut University. He declined, saying he was 17. He also chatted with the same girl at a video game store she worked at.

Patrick Crusius allegedly tried to recruit a high school classmate to a "white supremacy group" in 2017.

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