Brooks Brown, Chris Morris and Robyn Anderson

Hey! New to the forum and relatively new to taking a proper interest in Columbine. I’m sure this has been asked before but is it just coincidence they were all off school premise at the time of the shooting? Were any of there other friends off premise to? I’ve seen them all explain in interviews individually why they were personally not there but I’ve never seen it been questioned why a number of there friends weren’t there at the time of the shooting. We’ll never know for sure but what do you think?

Chad Laughlin was leaving for lunch and

But on the other hand Nate, Zach and Devon were in the school and we know Dylan cared about all three and Eric definitely liked Nate

I do sometimes wonder if Dylan thought of telling Zack not to go to school the next day when they talked on the phone the night before

Welcome to the forum!

Now to address your question.  A LOT of speculation exists on if any of E&D's friends knew anything, or possible may have gotten a "heads up" warning about the attack.

With Brooks being the type to rat people out, and on that day he was already making his way off school grounds anyway, we can pretty much rule him out. He had no knowledge of the coming attack, because if he had he would have definitely told his parents and then the police. Remember he had gotten Eric in trouble before by telling his parents about Eric's website, etc.

It is true that a few people did suspect Robyn of possibly having prior knowledge. A few of her own friends said she was acting strange that day, and was in a hurry to leave school for lunch. They were stopped on their way back onto school grounds by SWAT/police and had to sit in her car for a long time. She could have just been in shock at what was happening. But the fact she had bought E&D some of the very guns they used made her always a suspect to some.

Now Chris is just one of those that makes you scratch your head a little. He was closer to Eric then to Dylan, and he had issues of his own. Many people believed he was involved with the attack. His own mom kicked him out of the house because of suspicion that he may have been involved in it somehow. But honestly I think the main reason he was targeted was because he was a known member of the TCM, and the killers were said to have been wearing trench coat/dusters. Also the fact he ended up at the school that day and was shown on the news in handcuffs didn't help to boost his innocence.

But I truly think a few of their closer friends knew something was coming. I honestly believe they thought it would be some sort of Senior Prank. Eric was very into foreshadowing and dropping hints, so I say there is a good chance he did drop little bits of info in the months and weeks before the attack.

So in my opinion, I think they did probably know something would happen, they just didn't think it would be the horrific murder of 13 people and the suicides of their two friends.

I honestly don't believe any of them knew.

You're not talking about a prank, but blowing up the school and killing everyone. I don't believe they would keep quiet if they were told.

W.A.R. wrote:

You're not talking about a prank, but blowing up the school and killing everyone. I don't believe they would keep quiet if they were told.

True. I don't think Eric or Dylan ever said point blank "Hey guys we are gonna blow the school up and gun down any survivors as they try to run on 4/20". But I do think it's possible they dropped little hints here and there.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

W.A.R. wrote:

You're not talking about a prank, but blowing up the school and killing everyone. I don't believe they would keep quiet if they were told.

True. I don't think Eric or Dylan ever said point blank "Hey guys we are gonna blow the school up and gun down any survivors as they try to run on 4/20". But I do think it's possible they dropped little hints here and there.

The day before Eric was dropping innocuous breadcrumbs So I assume a lot of the things they were saying we’re probably like that. Like someone asked what are you writing in the notebook and Eric goes “planning for tomorrow” When I’m writing my to do list and someone asks when I’m doing in my notebook I say oh I’m planning for the week. Pretty standard.

Though I always found the mark asked a little bit stupid about going shooting that night I mean it was 930 at night where are you going to go??? It’s dark

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Welcome to the forum!

Now to address your question.  A LOT of speculation exists on if any of E&D's friends knew anything, or possible may have gotten a "heads up" warning about the attack.

With Brooks being the type to rat people out, and on that day he was already making his way off school grounds anyway, we can pretty much rule him out. He had no knowledge of the coming attack, because if he had he would have definitely told his parents and then the police. Remember he had gotten Eric in trouble before by telling his parents about Eric's website, etc.

It is true that a few people did suspect Robyn of possibly having prior knowledge. A few of her own friends said she was acting strange that day, and was in a hurry to leave school for lunch. They were stopped on their way back onto school grounds by SWAT/police and had to sit in her car for a long time. She could have just been in shock at what was happening. But the fact she had bought E&D some of the very guns they used made her always a suspect to some.

Now Chris is just one of those that makes you scratch your head a little. He was closer to Eric then to Dylan, and he had issues of his own. Many people believed he was involved with the attack. His own mom kicked him out of the house because of suspicion that he may have been involved in it somehow. But honestly I think the main reason he was targeted was because he was a known member of the TCM, and the killers were said to have been wearing trench coat/dusters. Also the fact he ended up at the school that day and was shown on the news in handcuffs didn't help to boost his innocence.

But I truly think a few of their closer friends knew something was coming. I honestly believe they thought it would be some sort of Senior Prank. Eric was very into foreshadowing and dropping hints, so I say there is a good chance he did drop little bits of info in the months and weeks before the attack.

So in my opinion, I think they did probably know something would happen, they just didn't think it would be the horrific murder of 13 people and the suicides of their two friends.

Thanks for the welcome. I’ve seen that Chris does seems to get the most suspicion but I don’t think he knew. I just think he may of been a easy target from the media. Only one I think may of knew is Robyn. There’s no way I Think Dylan would of wanted to of seen her get killed with him going to the prom with her acouple days before. He may not of told her what him and Eric were planning but maybe there was a warning not to be at school at a certain time or something along them lines.

NF Are Magic wrote:

Thanks for the welcome. I’ve seen that Chris does seems to get the most suspicion but I don’t think he knew. I just think he may of been a easy target from the media. Only one I think may of knew is Robyn. There’s no way I Think Dylan would of wanted to of seen her get killed with him going to the prom with her acouple days before. He may not of told her what him and Eric were planning but maybe there was a warning not to be at school at a certain time or something along them lines.

To be honest, I don't think they cared about anything at that point. I mean they knew their friends were going to be in the school, and that some could possibly die or get hurt. They even said in one tape "If you survive you can have this or that from my room" So its clear they thought about the possible deaths of their close friends, and just considered it collateral damage.

Also the whole Dylan & Robyn Prom thing was just a friendship type date. From all we know Dylan never had any romantic interests in Robyn, and she likely had a small crush on him. I agree with you, I don't think Dylan could have walked up to Robyn and shot her point blank. But he knew it was possible that she could be killed or hurt during the attack.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

NF Are Magic wrote:

Thanks for the welcome. I’ve seen that Chris does seems to get the most suspicion but I don’t think he knew. I just think he may of been a easy target from the media. Only one I think may of knew is Robyn. There’s no way I Think Dylan would of wanted to of seen her get killed with him going to the prom with her acouple days before. He may not of told her what him and Eric were planning but maybe there was a warning not to be at school at a certain time or something along them lines.

To be honest, I don't think they cared about anything at that point.  I mean they knew their friends were going to be in the school, and that some could possibly die or get hurt. They even said in one tape "If you survive you can have this or that from my room" So its clear they thought about the possible deaths of their close friends, and just considered it collateral damage.

Also the whole Dylan & Robyn Prom thing was just a friendship type date. From all we know Dylan never had any romantic interests in Robyn, and she likely had a small crush on him.  I agree with you, I don't think Dylan could have walked up to Robyn and shot her point blank. But he knew it was possible that she could be killed or hurt during the attack.

I agree. I think if Dylan encountered Robyn, Zach or Devon he would have let them go much like he did John. However I don't think he would have stopped. I read someone speculating if he saw Devon and she confronted him he probably would have just killed himself right there... I have to disagree. Would have hurt her, no way, but he would have finished what he started. He was too far gone.

I imagine Dylan may have joked with Robyn maybe about a prank or something on Tuesday but just like people who speculate Kristi knew something because of the way she was acting.. it's hindsight. You have teenagers who just had their school attacked, they are running past dead bodies, blood, there are swat team members and some of these kids are barely 14... there was no blueprint for this. You cannot say how they could have reacted after.

Screamingophelia wrote:

I agree. I think if Dylan encountered Robyn, Zach or Devon he would have let them go much like he did John. However I don't think he would have stopped. I read someone speculating if he saw Devon and she confronted him he probably would have just killed himself right there... I have to disagree. Would have hurt her, no way, but he would have finished what he started. He was too far gone.

Agreed. In my opinion there was NO way either could have been talked down. Especially not after the first shots were fired. After that it was a sealed deal.

I think Dylan found it difficult to kill people he knew, so it would have been impossible for him to bring himself to shoot his friends. I'm not sure he killed anyone he knew personally, did he? However, I think he was happy to let friends and acquaintances be part of the collateral damage from the bombs if they'd worked.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

To be honest, I don't think they cared about anything at that point.  I mean they knew their friends were going to be in the school, and that some could possibly die or get hurt. They even said in one tape "If you survive you can have this or that from my room" So its clear they thought about the possible deaths of their close friends, and just considered it collateral damage.

That "If you survive you can have this or that from my room" is what drives me kinda mad. I mean their original plan was to blow up the whole cafeteria and they pretty much knew that some of their close friends will be there at that time - so that shows cleary that they very likely expect that some of their close friends are going to die and they absolutely don't care about it. And especially Dylan knew some of them for a very long time. Plus none of them were jocks or bullies or other peoply Eric and Dylan were so mad about. They were more outcasts like them.

That makes it even more sick if the do not tell a single word of warning to them. I mean you do not have to say "please do not come to school tomorrow, something bad will going on". But they could have kept them away by saying something like "guys, please come to blackjacks tomorrow, well have something to celebrate and want to invite you to some slices of pizza" or something like that. Guess no one would be suspicious about that.

303 wrote:

That makes it even more sick if the do not tell a single word of warning to them. I mean you do not have to say "please do not come to school tomorrow, something bad will going on". But they could have kept them away by saying something like "guys, please come to blackjacks tomorrow, well have something to celebrate and want to invite you to some slices of pizza" or something like that. Guess no one would be suspicious about that.

A few people have speculated over the years that some of their close friends were warned, but to my knowledge there has never been evidence to prove Eric or Dylan actually did warn anybody.

Also in my opinion that adds another layer of coldness to them and their mindset at the time.