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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 02, 2019 5:43 pm

rodent wrote:
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Does anyone remember a document in Adam's possession, that was about voting and politics? Have I missed reading about it or was it never released?
“Me” had some talk about voting if that’s what you’re referring to.

Not really.

Look at this image. There is a document or file about politics, Ron Paul, gun control and capitalism.

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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 02, 2019 6:27 pm

Devil wrote:
rodent wrote:
Devil wrote:

Does anyone remember a document in Adam's possession, that was about voting and politics? Have I missed reading about it or was it never released?
“Me” had some talk about voting if that’s what you’re referring to.

Not really.

Look at this image. There is a document or file about politics, Ron Paul, gun control and capitalism.

Oh! Yeah I think that one hasn’t been released yet, along with stuff like “babies”.
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PostSubject: Is that Adam?   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 03, 2019 9:39 am

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Is that Adam?
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 03, 2019 9:08 pm

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Is that Adam?

Could be, but then again it just looks a like a very creepy child.

And omg, all these documents!! Do you know how the person on discord got them or can they say?
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jan 04, 2019 11:40 pm

They were gotten by contacting the CT state police directly. I guess they released them because they were pissed the Hartford courant was such a pain in the ass, and then after all their talk about how "the public should be able to see all the documents" and then they hold on to them after the fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 12:30 am

Have they released the photos of adam with the gun to his head? Or him posing and such?
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 1:34 am

I'm not really sure about that. Either the person that filed the request didn't specifically name all of the documents and material they wanted, (because when you file a foia request you have to be very specific about all of the information that you want) OR the person that originally got them from the CT State Police just hasn't uploaded all of the documents that they acquired yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 1:48 am

Longtime lurker who created account to be able to click on files posted by Question mark. I Apologize if this is a rookie question but when accessing all but 3 of the links I'm met with
"Anonymous caller does not have storage.objects.get access to discord/attachments/439304448872022016/529977443084140564/me.pdf.

error- access denied"

Could anyone help me out bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 1:54 am

It work just fine for me a minute ago. Try this: download the Discord app and make an account, then come back and try to download it. Let me know if that works for you Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 2:07 am

Appreciate the speedy response but unfortunately that did not work lol. This is what I'm met with both before and after installing and logging into Discord. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Any way I can open it directly in the Discord app possibly?
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 2:10 am

I'm not sure. I tried to find the original Discord server that it came from but I couldn't find it. There shouldn't be a period at the end of the link, are you making sure in the browser bar that there is no period at the end?
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 2:13 am

Yep no period in the browser bar; the webpage added it in the photo as is if the link were a part of a sentence; Weird. I've tried two different browsers too.
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 11:55 am

The links posted by question mark don’t work for me either Sad
Even downloading the discord app and trying again. Can anyone please help?

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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 11:59 am

That's God damned weird.

I do have all but the files (except for the pictures though), so if I can find a good way to re-upload the files and share them here, I will.

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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 12:03 pm

Ok. I tried different browsers as well

Thanks in advance!

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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 12:23 pm

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This should work. If not I'll have to find a different way.

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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 12:26 pm

Doesn't work for me either. It would be a great idea for anyone who saved the stuff to mirror them on archive.org as they can be a very reliable file host.

EDIT: The mega link just posted works fine. Thanks for reuploading!
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 12:55 pm

Mega works. Thank you much
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 12:59 pm

I uploaded on archive.org
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 6:50 pm

For anyone interested I attempted to restore the spreadsheet from PDF to excel
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 05, 2019 8:10 pm

There you go Adam, you're finally on you're own spreadsheet now.
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(Only just added him and nobody else as of yet.)
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Nice. I thought of adding everyone after. But honestly I don’t have that kind of time or dedication

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This should work. If not I'll have to find a different way.

Thank you very much QuestionMark, I'm glad we have some members here who have good contacts.
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 06, 2019 3:38 pm

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This should work. If not I'll have to find a different way.

Thank you very much QuestionMark, I'm glad we have some members here who have good contacts.

Yes, thank you so much for sharing this with the forum!

Now, to get us those basement tapes. LOL
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What about the photos where Adam points a gun to his head and the Anime mix etc?
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PostSubject: Re: Release date of documents   Release date of documents - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 07, 2019 12:52 am

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This should work. If not I'll have to find a different way.

Thank you very much QuestionMark, I'm glad we have some members here who have good contacts.

Yes, thank you so much for sharing this with the forum!

Now, to get us those basement tapes. LOL

I try my best. Smile

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What about the photos where Adam points a gun to his head and the Anime mix etc?

I have no idea when they're going to be released, or where. Someone further up the thread suggested asking the Newtown police department directly for the documents, so if anyone's got some free time on their hands and is willing to risk getting put on a watchlist, the ball's in your court.

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There you go Adam, you're finally on you're own spreadsheet now.
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(Only just added him and nobody else as of yet.)

I'm new here, so hi. I came here chasing this. I've been following this case for a few years and have wondered if anyone had the file. Thank you.
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In general, is anyone interested in crowd-sourcing improvements and additions to the document to make it a better research tool? I would like to fill in a few of those "???"'s, and I think a new column about mental health is in order. I'd love to reorganize by date, but I can't be arsed, as the Brits say. I know I just got here, so I should probably sit back, but I'm also pretty glad I found this file.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] If you decide to do it, heres a pretty good tool to use. You may already know about it. It has pretty most mass shooters and some Dr.'s interpretation of their mental state
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: I love Peter Langman as a resource. I've downloaded almost every doc he's got. I just found one today that is not yet on the list, unless I missed it, one Jon Romano from East Greenbush, NY. One injured, if I have not misread. I think there may be one or two others on his site that belong on the sheet.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: I would strictly go by what formal diagnoses they have been given by legit clinicians, if any, for exactly the reasons you state. No speculation of my own. I would also love to add a column on stated motive, if known (say, through manifestos or suicide notes).

The reason I suggest some type of crowd-doc, like a Google spreadsheet, is because I know I'm not the only one interested, and I want to discuss with others what "belongs", and who "belongs". I'm not sure how many are interested, though. We could each do our own thing and compare notes, perhaps.

Thank you both for your responses.

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For example, does Diane Schuler "belong"? She was indeed drunk/high, but I am not sure that was why she killed herself and 7 others in a crash. I'm leaning toward her having done it deliberately, using the drugs and drink to keep her resolve. I note she is not included, though other vehicle murders are. Perhaps Lanza did not know of the case, or considered it simple drunk driving.

Does the Lane Bryant shooter "belong", given the motive and perpetrator are not known?

There are certainly many I'm sure I'd add, no question, but others are borderline.

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HERE's the link to downoad the full 1448 pages of redacted documents that were released
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Did he not smile at all once he reached his teen years? This is I think the 5th photo I've seen of him grown up, and he's not smiling in this one either. scratch

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Does anybody here have the complete Me document?
If you do please show me how to get it too.

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Does anybody here have the complete Me document?
If you do please show me how to get it too.

HERE's the full document!
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HERE's the link to downoad the full 1448 pages of redacted documents that were released

Any table of contents? Sorting through over a thousand pages is going to take some doing.

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Does anybody here have the complete Me document?
If you do please show me how to get it too.

HERE's the full document!

Thank you!

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exceptionella wrote:
HERE's the link to downoad the full 1448 pages of redacted documents that were released

Cool. Thanks for sharing.
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Mrs. Lewis, mother of SH shooting victim Jesse Lewis, about Adam Lanza wrote:
I have tremendous compassion for him. Anyone who could do something so heinous must be in a tremendous amount of pain. He was neglected by the education system, his father had left, he had needs that were known that were not addressed, he was bullied in school … I understand his rage.

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(sorry, it's a little off-topic but given that it is for the moment the most active thread about SH I thought it would not be worth creating a new thread for one sentence).
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This is another spreadsheet I found, it contains more up to date shootings with some exceptions and they are in the US only.

It does contain details on mental health so you might want to emulate this format.

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I'm still really happy that so much stuff got released, and the spreadsheet finally being released made me literally jump with joy, but I still can't help but feel disappointed that we didn't get to see him posing with his guns Sad

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I'm still really happy that so much stuff got released, and the spreadsheet finally being released made me literally jump with joy, but I still can't help but feel disappointed that we didn't get to see him posing with his guns Sad

Agreed, it annoys me that I have to imagine his thoughts without even being able to clearly imagine how he truly looked in my mind.
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I wonder why the photographs of him holding guns to his head were never released. What excuse does the CSP have?

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I wonder why the photographs of him holding guns to his head were never released. What excuse does the CSP have?

I believe they haven't released all the documents yet
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Really? Thank god! We might be able to see a child murdering anorexic pointing a gun to his head after all Haha !

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Really? Thank god! We might be able to see a child murdering anorexic pointing a gun to his head after all  Haha !

I'm just glad that we could still be getting new pictures of Adam, especially ones that probably show what he looked like closer to the shooting.

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Krieg wrote:
Devil wrote:
I wonder why the photographs of him holding guns to his head were never released. What excuse does the CSP have?

I believe they haven't released all the documents yet

I hope that is true.

I wonder what is taking them so long to release these documents if this is the case.

In my country, public records must be released promptly, as required by law. I do not know if CT has similar laws.

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Did he not smile at all once he reached his teen years? This is I think the 5th photo I've seen of him grown up, and he's not smiling in this one either. scratch

Where did you get this photo? Was it in the 1000+ page PDF? I skimmed through it quickly and couldn't find that one.
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