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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:39 am
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Gonna repost this video here since I found a longer version and that I doubt a lot of people have seen it.
I'm assuming this video takes place in the second mosque, since the building looks kinda different. It also looks like less people died here compared to what happened in the first mosque.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:45 am
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Gonna repost this video here since I found a longer version and that I doubt a lot of people have seen it.
I'm assuming this video takes place in the second mosque, since the building looks kinda different. It also looks like less people died here compared to what happened in the first mosque.
It's gotta be the second mosque. It looks nothing like the one in the livestream plus I'd say more people were dead in the first one. I'm amazed anyone made it out of that alive.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:46 am
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I'm surprised it is still up on Kiwi Farms actually. It's still not as big as reddit or liveleak granted, but they're a bigger forum than us.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:47 am
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Gonna repost this video here since I found a longer version and that I doubt a lot of people have seen it.
I'm assuming this video takes place in the second mosque, since the building looks kinda different. It also looks like less people died here compared to what happened in the first mosque.
Wow nice find, I wasn't even aware this vid existed
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:47 am
Someone here was asking about Rotherham. The alt-right narrative is that there was a scandal where a large number of "chav" (lower-class) white girls were being "groomed" (raped and forced into sexual slavery) by Pakistani gangs. Supposedly the local cops knew it was happening but did nothing to stop it because of their slavish adherence to the "Multiculti über alles" doctrine.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:51 am
I wonder if this will become standard procedure in the future, people recording their massacres on a livestream and spreading it across the internet for propaganda. I mean, how is this guy any different from ISIS with recording it? He's also likely doing it for similar reasons: extra shock, spread of infamy, and bringing those who hate the victims in the first place further on his side.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:54 am
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I wonder if this will become standard procedure in the future, people recording their massacres on a livestream and spreading it across the internet for propaganda. I mean, how is this guy any different from ISIS with recording it? He's also likely doing it for similar reasons: extra shock, spread of infamy, and bringing those who hate the victims in the first place further on his side.
He's not at all any different. Given what I've seen from his manifesto, that was his plan with streaming it all along. He wanted to further push his propaganda.
But you're right. We got pictures from the school shooting Brazil really quickly. And then again in Crimea. Think of all the videos we got from inside Parkland. Social media has given us a terrifying first hand look at mass shooting. It's going to be more and more common for people to record and post them I bet. Why not? This guy did it and got tons of views.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:58 am
I wonder if this guy read the Turner Diaries? Considering how he wants America to have a civil war and then a race war around the world, which is basically the plot of the book.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:01 am
@Tommy QTR I believe he wants his race war to be restricted to countries with a large white population. However, I would be surprised if he didn't read the Turner Diaries or at least books with similar plots and ideas.
I also can't wait to see how Secular Talk and TYT will cover this Friday. I hope TYT blames it all on Trump and absolutely melts down like a bunch of howling lunatics.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:10 am
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@Tommy QTR I believe he wants his race war to be restricted to countries with a large white population. However, I would be surprised if he didn't read the Turner Diaries or at least books with similar plots and ideas.
I also can't wait to see how Secular Talk and TYT will cover this Friday. I hope TYT blames it all on Trump and absolutely melts down like a bunch of howling lunatics.
To be fair I like Secular Talk, Kyle is a likeable guy and is a lot less crazy than TYT.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:20 am
Just watched the 16-minute video. My initial reaction is ... Jesus fucking Christ.
I mean, I've spent twenty years studying Columbine, but when it comes down to it this type of event is just a guy (or a couple of guys) with a gun blowing people's brains out, and who in God's name knows why? He pulls the trigger and someone falls down and dies.
And they die so ... fast. All of that Hollywood dramatic bullshit prompts you to think that there's something almost exciting about it, but it's just pop pop, fall down; pop pop, fall down; pop pop, fall down.
The images that stick with me are the guy who was crawling away ... and, most especially, the one guy who tried to run past the shooter, the one who got shot at point-blank range. You could see, for a split-second, that he was holding his hand to his face in a final futile bid at self-preservation.
At first, I asked myself, "Why are they all just standing in the corner?" And then I realized that they were trying to hide, and there was nowhere to hide in that big open room, and they were all just huddled there in desperation like a bunch of sitting ducks. And this guy just picked them off, one by one, like a kid shooting beer bottles with a BB gun. It's ... incomprehensible.
Man is a sick, sick creature.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:24 am
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Just watched the 16-minute video. My initial reaction is ... Jesus fucking Christ.
I mean, I've spent twenty years studying Columbine, but when it comes down to it this type of event is just a guy (or a couple of guys) with a gun blowing people's brains out, and who in God's name knows why? He pulls the trigger and someone falls down and dies.
And they die so ... fast. All of that Hollywood dramatic bullshit prompts you to think that there's something almost exciting about it, but it's just pop pop, fall down; pop pop, fall down; pop pop, fall down.
The images that stick with me are the guy who was crawling away ... and, most especially, the one guy who tried to run past the shooter, the one who got shot at point-blank range. You could see, for a split-second, that he was holding his hand to his face in a final futile bid at self-preservation.
At first, I asked myself, "Why are they all just standing in the corner?" And then I realized that they were trying to hide, and there was nowhere to hide in that big open room, and they were all just huddled there in desperation like a bunch of sitting ducks. And this guy just picked them off, one by one, like a kid shooting beer bottles with a BB gun. It's ... incomprehensible.
Man is a sick, sick creature.
Yes, the woman crawling away at the end begging for help who shot a point blank range will haunt me forever. That one guy tried to be a hero, but he didn't make it sadly. The shooter was just so cold and calculated.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:27 am
Watching tv. Prime minister has confirmed 40 dead, 20 seriously injured. 10 dead at one mosque, 30 dead at the other. 3 suspects in custody.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:28 am
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Watching tv. Prime minister has confirmed 40 dead, 20 seriously injured. 10 dead at one mosque, 30 dead at the other. 3 suspects in custody.
The 30 dead come from the mosque that was livestreamed.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:30 am
The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:31 am
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The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
From what I understand from Kiwi friends: New stations are reporting the shooter moved to NZ to "plan and train" and decided to stay because it was a better target than Aus.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:39 am
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Tommy QTR wrote:
The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
From what I understand from Kiwi friends: New stations are reporting the shooter moved to NZ to "plan and train" and decided to stay because it was a better target than Aus.
I bet he met the other 3 people online, and went to plan and train with them, and then decided to attack the Mosques. Question is when did he arrive in New Zealand, as this attack had to be months in the planning.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:42 am
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Tommy QTR wrote:
The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
From what I understand from Kiwi friends: New stations are reporting the shooter moved to NZ to "plan and train" and decided to stay because it was a better target than Aus.
I bet he met the other 3 people online, and went to plan and train with them, and then decided to attack the Mosques. Question is when did he arrive in New Zealand, as this attack had to be months in the planning.
I'll ask my friends and see if the news mentioned that. I feel very bad for his friends and family in Aus. I'm sure he acted very different in person to how he was online. Bet his irl friends never knew. If I had to guess, you're probably right about him meeting the other 3 people online.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:47 am
The police have now officially confirmed the Shooter is 28 year old Brenton Tarrant.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:54 am
Someone on Twitter has found out most of the names of the people he write on his gun and Magazines:
1st Photo: Feliks Kazimerez Potocki - Polish noble and military leader. Unknown Name Iosif Gurko - Russian field marshal. Josue Estebanez - Fascist who stabbed 16 year old Carlos Palomino to death in 2007. Milos Obilic - Serbian knight. Sigismund of Luxembourg - Holy Roman Emperor. Vienna 1683 - Battle as part of the Great Turkish War Acre 1189 - Siege as part of the 3rd Crusade
2nd Photo: Unknown Name Bohemond I of Antioch - Prince of Taranto Gaston IV of Bearn - Viscount of Bearn Mihaily Pelayu - ??? Konstantin II Asen - Tsar of Bulgaria Boy Na Ivankovui - ??? Ivalo Semenovich - ??? Charles Martel - Frankish statesman and military leader
3rd Photo: John Hunyadi - Hungarian military and political figure Tours 732 - Battle as part of the Umayyad invasion of Gaul.
4th Photo: 2 Unknown Names Dimitry Senyavin - Russian admiral Serban Cantacuzino - Prince of Wallachia Marko Miljanov - Brda chieftain and Montenegrin general and writer. Stefan Lazarevic - Serbian prince and despot. Edward Codrington - English admiral Marco Antonio Bragadin - Venetian lawyer and military officer Ernst Rudinger von Starhemberg - military governor of Vienna
5th Photo: Alexandre Bissonette - Mass shooter at Quebec City mosque, 6 killed, 19 wounded. Luca Traini - Italian neo-fascist that shot and wounded 6 people in Macerata. Crazheniepri Korgule 1770 - ??? Bajo Pivljanin - Hajduk commander Sebastiano Venier - Doge of Venice Shipka Pass 1877-78 - Battle as part of the Russo-Turkish War. Novak Vujosevic - War hero in the Battle of Fundina.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:00 am
Well I'm officially heading to bed now. I'll check in on this thread tomorrow. I hope no more people die from their injuries.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:00 am
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Well I'm officially heading to bed now. I'll check in on this thread tomorrow. I hope no more people die from their injuries.
I'm out too, but sadly, it looks like many people are in critical.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:08 am
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LPorter101 wrote:
Just watched the 16-minute video. My initial reaction is ... Jesus fucking Christ.
I mean, I've spent twenty years studying Columbine, but when it comes down to it this type of event is just a guy (or a couple of guys) with a gun blowing people's brains out, and who in God's name knows why? He pulls the trigger and someone falls down and dies.
And they die so ... fast. All of that Hollywood dramatic bullshit prompts you to think that there's something almost exciting about it, but it's just pop pop, fall down; pop pop, fall down; pop pop, fall down.
The images that stick with me are the guy who was crawling away ... and, most especially, the one guy who tried to run past the shooter, the one who got shot at point-blank range. You could see, for a split-second, that he was holding his hand to his face in a final futile bid at self-preservation.
At first, I asked myself, "Why are they all just standing in the corner?" And then I realized that they were trying to hide, and there was nowhere to hide in that big open room, and they were all just huddled there in desperation like a bunch of sitting ducks. And this guy just picked them off, one by one, like a kid shooting beer bottles with a BB gun. It's ... incomprehensible.
Man is a sick, sick creature.
Yes, the woman crawling away at the end begging for help who shot a point blank range will haunt me forever. That one guy tried to be a hero, but he didn't make it sadly. The shooter was just so cold and calculated.
That's Landon Jones right there, folks.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:20 am
"More recently I have been working part time as a kebab removalist."
This guy is disgusting, fucking Nazis.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:24 am
The song he listened to while he was in his car. I bet YouTube will take it down soon.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:29 am
I've noticed how you guys all talk about meme and how he did not take the thing seriously. Meme is a strategy, and despite it seeming trivial it can have a rather serious and effective impact. It makes me think about something Richard Spencer said in an interview with Vice:
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We memed alt-right into existence.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:36 am
The police have said 48 people have been injured.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:48 am
Damn, I forgot to include the part of his writings where he comedically blames Candace Owens and implies that she radicalized him.
"Is there a particular person that radicalized you the most? Yes, the person that has influenced me above all was Candace Owens. Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes."
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:53 am
A good link (for the moment): (Content removed by staff)
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 am
RT has said the shooter has been planning the attack for 2 years.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:13 am
Oh shit, 49 people have died and there are 39 injured.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:19 am
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hvernon wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
From what I understand from Kiwi friends: New stations are reporting the shooter moved to NZ to "plan and train" and decided to stay because it was a better target than Aus.
I bet he met the other 3 people online, and went to plan and train with them, and then decided to attack the Mosques. Question is when did he arrive in New Zealand, as this attack had to be months in the planning.
I'm pretty sure he said in his manifesto that he started planning a mosque massacre 2 years ago, and started planning to attack that specific mosque 3 months ago. Not quite sure though, going off memory so don't quote me on that.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:23 am
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Tommy QTR wrote:
hvernon wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
From what I understand from Kiwi friends: New stations are reporting the shooter moved to NZ to "plan and train" and decided to stay because it was a better target than Aus.
I bet he met the other 3 people online, and went to plan and train with them, and then decided to attack the Mosques. Question is when did he arrive in New Zealand, as this attack had to be months in the planning.
I'm pretty sure he said in his manifesto that he started planning a mosque massacre 2 years ago, and started planning to attack that specific mosque 3 months ago. Not quite sure though, going off memory so don't quote me on that.
Yeah I already said that.
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RT has said the shooter has been planning the attack for 2 years.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:25 am
Tommy QTR wrote:
InsaneIntruder wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
hvernon wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
The shooter has been confirmed to be Australian.
From what I understand from Kiwi friends: New stations are reporting the shooter moved to NZ to "plan and train" and decided to stay because it was a better target than Aus.
I bet he met the other 3 people online, and went to plan and train with them, and then decided to attack the Mosques. Question is when did he arrive in New Zealand, as this attack had to be months in the planning.
I'm pretty sure he said in his manifesto that he started planning a mosque massacre 2 years ago, and started planning to attack that specific mosque 3 months ago. Not quite sure though, going off memory so don't quote me on that.
Yeah I already said that.
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RT has said the shooter has been planning the attack for 2 years.
Sorry, I replied before seeing your post.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:49 am
Tarrant might beat out TJ Lane as the most nonchalant and smug mass shooter ever.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:07 am
Srazheniye pri Korgule means Battle at Corgoyle. The other one is Pavlo Sergiovich.
I read cyrillic and have been studying russian for some years, and some of these words are spelled similar, however they contain the letter "lje" which is only in the serbian and macedonian alphabet. One has Fruzhin Bitka written on it, which means Battle... fighting battle. There is also georgian names/words on on of the magazines.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:22 am
It was only a matter of time before someone live streamed a mass shooting.
RIP to the victims.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:35 am
To think this is not only the deadliest terrorist attack and mass shooting in Australia but is also one of the deadliest terrorist attacks and mass shooting in the world.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:58 am
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To think this is not only the deadliest terrorist attack and mass shooting in Australia but is also one of the deadliest terrorist attacks and mass shooting in the world.
Actually, Christchurch is located in New Zealand, not Australia. However, I think it's been confirmed that Brenton Tarrant is an Australian citizen or is at least from Australia. It's scary to think a shooting can appear anywhere in the world now.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:04 am
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To think this is not only the deadliest terrorist attack and mass shooting in Australia but is also one of the deadliest terrorist attacks and mass shooting in the world.
Actually, Christchurch is located in New Zealand, not Australia. However, I think it's been confirmed that Brenton Tarrant is an Australian citizen or is at least from Australia. It's scary to think a shooting can appear anywhere in the world now.
I meant to put New Zealand and not Australia, my apologies. That's what running on no sleep will do to you.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:55 am
Looking all over social media. So far more people are reacting to the fact that the gunman told everyone to "Subscribe to PewDiePie". I thought I would see more talk about the actual victims.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:09 am
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Interesting. Why didn't he stream the second mosque shooting? Maybe the stream got taken down?
I imagine his camera malfunctioned.
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The police response time was awful. I noticed he had a drum magazine, probs 50 rounds. What caliber were his semi auto rifles? .223?
Most likely, either that or .556.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:09 am
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Tarrant might beat out TJ Lane as the most nonchalant and smug mass shooter ever.
He's still got a trial to look forward too as well. He's probably gonna do Hitler salutes in the courtroom like Brevik, maybe shout some memes out on top of that.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:25 am
At least there won't be as many people saying that it was a hoax and no one died.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:30 am
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At least there won't be as many people saying that it was a hoax and no one died.
It won't stop em. I'm predicting right now that some people are going to decry to footage as "unrealistic".
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:47 am
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Mundus wrote:
At least there won't be as many people saying that it was a hoax and no one died.
It won't stop em. I'm predicting right now that some people are going to decry to footage as "unrealistic".
Yeah there's always gonna be someone but at least it won't be Sandy Hook levels of saying its a hoax.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:05 pm
I'm trying to figure out if there was significance to the date or if the shooter just picked a random day and time for the killings. The only thing I could find was this:
I'm just wondering, because it's not like April is that far away. Aside from being on the Columbine anniversary, April 20th was Hitler's birthday.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:20 pm
The live-stream video is brutal.
I'm shocked this happened in New Zealand out of all places.
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Subject: Re: Shooting at Christchurch Mosque Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:26 pm
The 15th is also the Ides of March
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