Shooting at Christchurch Mosque

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G4145 wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Neah wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Because he defends and supports a imperialist nation while calling himself a ethno-nationalist and a nativist even though white people aren't native to Australia so it makes him a hypocrite

He does not want to defend imperialism in his nation, he wants to defend the culture and "race" of his nation, that's two different things. I do agree with you however that it is hypocritical for him to base his ideology so much on the link between race and the land whereas the Australian land was invaded.

He's defending Nazi Germany which was an imperialist country.

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I'm not defending Tarrant and I don't even know what I wrote that could make you think so. I simply don't care about the fact that I agree with him on anti-imperialism, especially as he didn't kill anyone out of his anti-imperialism thoughts. I don't think he was lying, I don't think he wrote so in order to harm left-wing anti-imperialists. You may think he did this on purpose and I will always fail to convince you otherwise anyway. He also wanted to preserve the environment, so do I and that's no big deal. He killed 50 innocent people including children and encouraged others to do the same, that's what matter.

He also credited Candice Owens and other conservative figures as part of his radicalisation but he clearly was lying there right? I'm simply pointing out the fact that he's a lying piece of trash who uses left-wing talking points to discredit the left and cause division, I mean he literally defends imperialism of fascist countries so how can he be anti imperialist?

Why can't you get stuff like this through your thick skull?

The LDPR party in Russia, also right wing nationalist, leapt to the defence of the Communist coup plotters in 1991 when the August coup was underway. They weren't in favour of communism, they were fighting for Soviet Nationalism.

Someone clearly still hasn't picked up a history book and learned that fascists are known for lying and using deceptive tactics.

Tommy QTR wrote:

G4145 wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Neah wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Because he defends and supports a imperialist nation while calling himself a ethno-nationalist and a nativist even though white people aren't native to Australia so it makes him a hypocrite

He does not want to defend imperialism in his nation, he wants to defend the culture and "race" of his nation, that's two different things. I do agree with you however that it is hypocritical for him to base his ideology so much on the link between race and the land whereas the Australian land was invaded.

He's defending Nazi Germany which was an imperialist country.

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I'm not defending Tarrant and I don't even know what I wrote that could make you think so. I simply don't care about the fact that I agree with him on anti-imperialism, especially as he didn't kill anyone out of his anti-imperialism thoughts. I don't think he was lying, I don't think he wrote so in order to harm left-wing anti-imperialists. You may think he did this on purpose and I will always fail to convince you otherwise anyway. He also wanted to preserve the environment, so do I and that's no big deal. He killed 50 innocent people including children and encouraged others to do the same, that's what matter.

He also credited Candice Owens and other conservative figures as part of his radicalisation but he clearly was lying there right? I'm simply pointing out the fact that he's a lying piece of trash who uses left-wing talking points to discredit the left and cause division, I mean he literally defends imperialism of fascist countries so how can he be anti imperialist?

Why can't you get stuff like this through your thick skull?

The LDPR party in Russia, also right wing nationalist, leapt to the defence of the Communist coup plotters in 1991 when the August coup was underway. They weren't in favour of communism, they were fighting for Soviet Nationalism.

Someone clearly still hasn't picked up a history book and learned that fascists are known for lying and using deceptive tactics.

Every ideology or party has and does still lie and use deceptive tactics.

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G4145 wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

G4145 wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Neah wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Because he defends and supports a imperialist nation while calling himself a ethno-nationalist and a nativist even though white people aren't native to Australia so it makes him a hypocrite

He does not want to defend imperialism in his nation, he wants to defend the culture and "race" of his nation, that's two different things. I do agree with you however that it is hypocritical for him to base his ideology so much on the link between race and the land whereas the Australian land was invaded.

He's defending Nazi Germany which was an imperialist country.

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I'm not defending Tarrant and I don't even know what I wrote that could make you think so. I simply don't care about the fact that I agree with him on anti-imperialism, especially as he didn't kill anyone out of his anti-imperialism thoughts. I don't think he was lying, I don't think he wrote so in order to harm left-wing anti-imperialists. You may think he did this on purpose and I will always fail to convince you otherwise anyway. He also wanted to preserve the environment, so do I and that's no big deal. He killed 50 innocent people including children and encouraged others to do the same, that's what matter.

He also credited Candice Owens and other conservative figures as part of his radicalisation but he clearly was lying there right? I'm simply pointing out the fact that he's a lying piece of trash who uses left-wing talking points to discredit the left and cause division, I mean he literally defends imperialism of fascist countries so how can he be anti imperialist?

Why can't you get stuff like this through your thick skull?

The LDPR party in Russia, also right wing nationalist, leapt to the defence of the Communist coup plotters in 1991 when the August coup was underway. They weren't in favour of communism, they were fighting for Soviet Nationalism.

Someone clearly still hasn't picked up a history book and learned that fascists are known for lying and using deceptive tactics.

Stating the obvious doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look a moron, as does every other one of your posts whenever you try so hard to appear the expert.

If I defend Nazi Germany, it doesn't mean that I'm an imperialist. If someone defends Israel, it doesn't mean they're a zionist. If someone defends President Putin, it doesn't mean they are some centre-right national conservative.

If you support Nazi Germany's foreign polices, saying they "should have won" which Tarrant did on his Facebook account, then yeah it does make you a supporter of imperialism.

I can see us going back and forth with you using childish insults is going nowhere, I will end this by keeping things civil, I hope you have a nice day.

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Tarrant has now just been charged with terrorism:

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Tommy QTR wrote:

Tarrant has now just been charged with terrorism:

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About time.

I finally found and watched the full 17 minute video. I must say, it didn’t seem like he’d shot almost a hundred people. If I had to guess how many people he’d actually killed after watching it I’d say 10-20. You can’t really tell when someone gets shot, except when he goes up and starts shooting the bodies.

Makes me wonder about other mass shootings. Dylann Roof stated that he thought he had shot five people total, when in reality he had shot ten. Maybe it’s hard to tell when you’ve actually shot someone. It definitely doesn’t look how it does in the movies.

Remember that Brenton shot some more people in the street and at another mosque after the filming ended.

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Brenton in court March 16th

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Columbine20 wrote:

Remember that Brenton shot some more people in the street and at another mosque after the filming ended.

Oh ok I didn’t know there was more killing off camera

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Brenton in court March 16th

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Here's two more as well as a picture of his arrest. There should be more on June 14th at his next court appearance now that the censor ban has been lifted.
Does anyone know if the stitches above his lip were due to his arrest ? There doesn't seem to be any news articles or reports saying how/when he was injured, though it's obvious it was after the shooting since he didn't have it during the livestream. Also if you look at the picture of his arrest, as bad as the quality and how pixilated it may be, there seems to be blood on his face.

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I found the video footage of Tarrant in court too

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Here is some more footage

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DanielGardner where did you fin d the video? Could you DM it to me? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Just sent you a link

In the US, the prison jumpsuits are always orange or red (Nikolas Cruz), but why are they white in NZ ?

Brenton Tarrant's letter to a Russian person:

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I don't know why I cannot upload pictures, but you can read the letter on this way too long image if you zoom in:

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Did they ever say what kind of gun that is in the middle? I know the one on the left is the lever-action rifle, and the one on the right is the Remington 870, but what is the one in the middle? It looks like some kind of rifle since it has a magazine and a scope, but it doesn't look like an AR-15 or AK-47.

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Did they ever say what kind of gun that is in the middle? I know the one on the left is the lever-action rifle, and the one on the right is the Remington 870, but what is the one in the middle? It looks like some kind of rifle since it has a magazine and a scope, but it doesn't look like an AR-15 or AK-47.

I think it's a Ruger mini 14. I imagine he probably got it because of Breivik.

Tommy QTR wrote:

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Did they ever say what kind of gun that is in the middle? I know the one on the left is the lever-action rifle, and the one on the right is the Remington 870, but what is the one in the middle? It looks like some kind of rifle since it has a magazine and a scope, but it doesn't look like an AR-15 or AK-47.

I think it's a Ruger mini 14. I imagine he probably got it because of Breivik.

Ah, I see it now. Thanks.

Complete list of weapons Tarrant had:

Mossberg 930 SPX semi-automatic shotgun

Aero Precision M4E1 semi-automatic rifle

Ruger AR-556 semi-automatic rifle

Remington 870 Express Synthetic pump-action shotgun

Mossberg MVP Patrol bolt-action rifle

Marlin 1894 lever-action rifle

Tarrant's Marlin 1894 lever-action rifle, discarded at the Linwood Islamic Centre:

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Full transcript of the livestream, all credit goes to peoplearesleeping on Reddit:

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Alright, let's get this party started.

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Remember lads, subscribe to PewDiePie.

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Just double check the camera (???)

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Hello, lads.

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Wait a couple minutes.

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Alright, time's up.

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This is for Ebba. This is for the Bataclan. This is for Europe.

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Car park full. Didnt fucking expect that.

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This is some Austin Powers shit.

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I'm gonna kill this bitch.

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Here goes the fucking quest

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Hello brother

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That didn't work.

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Ah, shit.

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Son of a bitch.

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Fuck it.

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Looks like we won't get to burn it today, boys.

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Help me! Help me! Help me! Help me! Help me!

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Did not go as planned.

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Fucking Christ.

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What a motherfucking piece of shit.

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Fucking shit.

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Mags dropped out instantly.

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Either pick retention or ease of access, and if you pick ease of access you can fuck yourself.

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I went out too quick, should've stayed longer.

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There was time for the fuel.

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Really wanted to burn that fucking mosque to the ground.

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But, shit happens.

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Left one full magazine back there I know for sure, possibly more.

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Had to run along in the middle of the firefight and pick up the mags that fell out pretty much fucking instantly.

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There wasn't even time to aim due to so many targets.

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And there was so many people that the car park was full.

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So there was no real chance to get through there.

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Got some Need for Speed type of shit, using other cars as cover.

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A lot of them survived unfortunately, they all ran pretty quickly

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I know I scared them and the women weren't in yet. I guess the men enter first, probably a few minutes earlier.

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What do we do here?

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Fuck! (???)

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(???) service for a sec.

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I am sure, anyone remotely interested in this shooting already took notice, but still here is an article about Tarrant surprisingly now pleading guilty on all charges:

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I do wonder, if it is coming really from Tarrant, maybe just because he himself wants to avoid a lenghty trial (maybe not standing the thought of that for himself), or if it is maybe a concerted action with his lawyers to at least get a little bit better chances concerning the final sentence - to show good will, so to speak, as a strategy.

Are there any new pics of his weapons

DooMRebel wrote:

Are there any new pics of his weapons

Aside from the Marlin 1894, I'm afraid not. Maybe we'll get more when his trial starts in June.

SavageGlocker wrote:

DooMRebel wrote:

Are there any new pics of his weapons

Aside from the Marlin 1894, I'm afraid not. Maybe we'll get more when his trial starts in June.

Ahah. Funny you mention that. Cause Tarrant pleaded guilty not long ago. So we'll likely not get a trial in June.

Weird how he traveled so much around the world and still ended up so racist

Has someone a full list of the video games he played?

You can only watch this stream so many times and not notice little things about it.

Brenton swearing under his breath.

Brenton accidentally smacking the barrel of his first AR-15 against the wall when diving for a mag.

The dying moans of the worshippers that are almost drowned out by Brenton's boner jams.

Brenton avoiding police by driving behind a truck.

You eventually learn the exact malfunction his first AR-15 had.

And you learn that Brenton apparently can't operate a shotgun.

It's little things like that that make mass shootings fascinating to me, and that's part of why I enjoy researching the livestreamed shootings so much. Seeing this unfold live and without some washed-up psychologist or FBI behavioral analysist feeding me bullshit I already know is what I'll always enjoy about these cases.

 

normalface wrote:

NEXT STEP UP wrote:

You can only watch this stream so many times and not notice little things about it.

Brenton swearing under his breath.

Brenton accidentally smacking the barrel of his first AR-15 against the wall when diving for a mag.

The dying moans of the worshippers that are almost drowned out by Brenton's boner jams.

Brenton avoiding police by driving behind a truck.

You eventually learn the exact malfunction his first AR-15 had.

And you learn that Brenton apparently can't operate a shotgun.

It's little things like that that make mass shootings fascinating to me, and that's part of why I enjoy researching the livestreamed shootings so much. Seeing such a horrible thing unfold live and without some washed-up psychologist or FBI behavioral analysist feeding me bullshit I already know is what I'll always enjoy about these cases.

What do you think he mutters after dropping the mags at the 7:14 mark?

"That didn't work."

NEXT STEP UP wrote:

You can only watch this stream so many times and not notice little things about it.

Brenton swearing under his breath.

Brenton accidentally smacking the barrel of his first AR-15 against the wall when diving for a mag.

The dying moans of the worshippers that are almost drowned out by Brenton's boner jams.

Brenton avoiding police by driving behind a truck.

You eventually learn the exact malfunction his first AR-15 had.

And you learn that Brenton apparently can't operate a shotgun.

It's little things like that that make mass shootings fascinating to me, and that's part of why I enjoy researching the livestreamed shootings so much. Seeing such a horrible thing unfold live and without some washed-up psychologist or FBI behavioral analysist feeding me bullshit I already know is what I'll always enjoy about these cases.

It’s funny how the guy who said that he’ll be “forgotten quickly” basically designed and crafted a mass shooting that doubles as an unforgettable and fascinating propaganda piece. Even his name is repeated fairly often in comparison to his copyists.

I think it's also worth saying (and I'm sure that I'm not the first person to think about this but I have been thinking about it recently) how well timed the music was with the tempo of Tarrant's attack. "British Grenadiers" while Tarrant "marches to war" so to speak, upbeat Fallschirmjäger remix when he goes in and starts firing, "Fire" when he's about to get the gas out and burn the mosque down (but thinks twice and leaves) and then "Gas Gas Gas" when he makes his escape by vehicle from the first mosque. It was all so incredibly timed that I wonder if he was thinking about when the music would change while also carrying out the attack and coordinated his movements around it despite how difficult it would be to do so.

Licht wrote:

I think it's also worth saying (and I'm sure that I'm not the first person to think about this but I have been thinking about it recently) how well timed the music was with the tempo of Tarrant's attack. "British Grenadiers" while Tarrant "marches to war" so to speak, upbeat Fallschirmjäger remix when he goes in and starts firing, "Fire" when he's about to get the gas out and burn the mosque down (but thinks twice and leaves) and then "Gas Gas Gas" when he makes his escape by vehicle from the first mosque. It was all so incredibly timed that I wonder if he was thinking about when the music would change while also carrying out the attack and coordinated his movements around it despite how difficult it would be to do so.

I think that might be the most impressive part of Brenton's attack. It's literally like a scene from a movie. I think that's why it's got so many copycats, the sheer theatricality of it all.

It's incredible that some people are still thinking that it's actually him on these photos.
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I wonder what would've happened if he made it to the Ashburton mosque. Considering he only had the bolt-action and one mag I'm guessing he would've gotten 1-3 before giving up because manually cocking the gun each round would be too cumbersome. Based on google maps it looks about the size of the Linwood mosque so who knows. Interesting hypothetical imo.

vril wrote:

I wonder what would've happened if he made it to the Ashburton mosque. Considering he only had the bolt-action and one mag I'm guessing he would've gotten 1-3 before giving up because manually cocking the gun each round would be too cumbersome. Based on google maps it looks about the size of the Linwood mosque so who knows. Interesting hypothetical imo.

I think he probably could’ve made it if he didn’t shoot through his windows, which kinda made his car a great big “I’m the shooter” to any cop that happens to pass by.

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Samson wrote:

Licht wrote:

vril wrote:

I wonder what would've happened if he made it to the Ashburton mosque. Considering he only had the bolt-action and one mag I'm guessing he would've gotten 1-3 before giving up because manually cocking the gun each round would be too cumbersome. Based on google maps it looks about the size of the Linwood mosque so who knows. Interesting hypothetical imo.

I think he probably could’ve made it if he didn’t shoot through his windows, which kinda made his car a great big “I’m the shooter” to any cop that happens to pass by.

But doing a drive by with a shotgun is fucking badass and was one of the coolest parts of the video.

I don't disagree, though the whole video was pretty badass. Probably wasn't even worth it anyway, even if he makes it if he really only had the bolt action at that point I could see him being tackled while reloading or just chased out again like at Linwood.

Samson wrote:

Licht wrote:

vril wrote:

I wonder what would've happened if he made it to the Ashburton mosque. Considering he only had the bolt-action and one mag I'm guessing he would've gotten 1-3 before giving up because manually cocking the gun each round would be too cumbersome. Based on google maps it looks about the size of the Linwood mosque so who knows. Interesting hypothetical imo.

I think he probably could’ve made it if he didn’t shoot through his windows, which kinda made his car a great big “I’m the shooter” to any cop that happens to pass by.

But doing a drive by with a shotgun is fucking badass and was one of the coolest parts of the video.

Really? He could barely get it to work. Besides, if he wanted to do something like that, he should've just rolled down his windows before the attack.

 

 

normalface wrote:

NEXT STEP UP wrote:

Samson wrote:

Licht wrote:

vril wrote:

I wonder what would've happened if he made it to the Ashburton mosque. Considering he only had the bolt-action and one mag I'm guessing he would've gotten 1-3 before giving up because manually cocking the gun each round would be too cumbersome. Based on google maps it looks about the size of the Linwood mosque so who knows. Interesting hypothetical imo.

I think he probably could’ve made it if he didn’t shoot through his windows, which kinda made his car a great big “I’m the shooter” to any cop that happens to pass by.

But doing a drive by with a shotgun is fucking badass and was one of the coolest parts of the video.

Really? He could barely get it to work. Besides, if he wanted to do something like that, he should've just rolled down his windows before the attack.

It would be difficult for anyone to handle a pump action while simultaneously operating a vehicle, aiming at targets, and listening to Fire by Arthur Brown.

He was stopped when he grabbed his shotty, and you don't really need to aim with a gun like that. Just point it vaguely in the direction of your target and you're bound to get a couple hits.

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It's incredible that some people are still thinking that it's actually him on these photos.
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Who the hell was this actually?

CanIHelpYou wrote:

war criminal wrote:

It's incredible that some people are still thinking that it's actually him on these photos.

Who the hell was this actually?

It's a random guy from Crimea (I'm not joking) whose photos were used to spread this fake information. He deleted most of the photos which were originally linked to Brenton and left only two of them. His page on social media is mostly abandoned, I suspect he found out that his photos were used this way and deleted everything.

There's this one photo of Tarrant in North Korea (here) that I cannot find the source of. It's 100% him but where tf did this one come from? Small detail but it bothers me. He didn't post it, so where did people get it from? It seems like it just appeared on Reddit one day.

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