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Subject: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:08 pm
Since there really isn't any new information coming out in the realm of Columbine, I've decided to put together some "rare" and interesting photos and documents.
Some of you may have seen these, but I'm sure there are others that haven't. Feel free to add anything you might find interesting, and I will keep updating the thread as I come across more.
As far as the "new" picture of Eric goes, it does look very much like him, and he was wearing that black shirt with a white undershirt in the "Eric in Columbine" video. What do you guys think?
Eric's photo right next to the "regrets" section in the yearbook... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan writing "you driving" in his calendar marking the day he got his license. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Drawings taken from Eric & Dylan's journals [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
More drawings from their journals [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Math problem involving pipe-bombs [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan describing different types of crimes from his diversion classes [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan practicing writing a bibliography [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan writing down t-shirt ideas on Randy Brown's business stationary [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric lying about his height on his diversion intake (5'8 in reality) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's Marines application [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan writing "there is 99 ways to die, and I thought of them" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
An insightful poem Dylan wrote [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's depression / mood questionnaire from his diversion intake [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan writing "Death (Afraid?) in his calendar" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Last but not least, the alleged "new" picture of Eric in the computer lab at CHS (DEBUNKED) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:12 pm
That looks very Eric like for sure
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:15 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
That looks very Eric like for sure
I wonder what the story behind that photo is. It seems like it was taken on the down-low, and Eric had no clue.
Maybe someone knew something...
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:17 pm
What is the source of the photo?
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
What is the source of the photo?
That specific photo was sent to me by a friend who is also interested in Columbine. I'm not quite sure where he found it though.
It does look very much like him though, and from the side it looks like it could be his twin if it is another person.
Maybe we can come across some photos of the CHS computer lab and see if we can find any matching features. Then again, I'm not sure if there was more than one lab, as most schools have several.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:56 pm
Definitely looks like Eric. I know Dylan was just describing types of crimes for his diversion thing, but wonder who Brian was? Dylan described himself tormenting the person on the definitions that involved things like harassment, but used other names for crimes that didn't really involve another person. Someone from his shitlist? Maybe someone from the class that pissed him off? Maybe I'm looking too far into it...
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:05 pm
I found this on YT. I don't think it is Eric
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:06 pm
Lizpuff wrote:
I found this on YT. I don't think it is Eric
How on Earth did you even find that? After watching the video, yeah I no longer think it is Eric. The kid turns to face the front and that's not Eric's face. Hmm from the side, he sure could have been.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:08 pm
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Lizpuff wrote:
I found this on YT. I don't think it is Eric
How on Earth did you even find that? After watching the video, yeah I no longer think it is Eric. The kid turns to face the front and that's not Eric's face. Hmm from the side, he sure could have been.
I google image searched the posted photo. It led me to that video
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:21 pm
Lizpuff wrote:
I found this on YT. I don't think it is Eric
Wow Liz, great find! Pretty crazy how much that resembled Eric!
I was pretty stoked we might of found something new, but at least we know it isn't him.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:23 pm
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:23 pm
slippy123 wrote:
Lizpuff wrote:
I found this on YT. I don't think it is Eric
Wow Liz, great find! Pretty crazy how much that resembled Eric!
I was pretty stoked we might of found something new, but at least we know it isn't him.
TBH I am pretty sad it was debunked. I also love new things.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:27 pm
Not to mention the fact that the crt desktop computer on the far right is an eMac, which wasn't released until 2002.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:34 pm
hvernon wrote:
Definitely looks like Eric. I know Dylan was just describing types of crimes for his diversion thing, but wonder who Brian was? Dylan described himself tormenting the person on the definitions that involved things like harassment, but used other names for crimes that didn't really involve another person. Someone from his shitlist? Maybe someone from the class that pissed him off? Maybe I'm looking too far into it...
It could be just a random name, but it's very possible it could of been someone who he didn't like. I find that Eric adding 3 inches to his height very telling of his insecurities.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:55 pm
"Math problem involving pipe bombs" Really? Like using addition means it was for math class? "Detailing items in the bunker, mentioned in the basement tapes as outside the window" more like
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:05 am
cakeman wrote:
"Math problem involving pipe bombs" Really? Like using addition means it was for math class? "Detailing items in the bunker, mentioned in the basement tapes as outside the window" more like
I know my IQ will hurt after this, but since I'm bored I'll respond one last time to the attention seeker.
Where does it say anything about math class, and since when does a math problem mean it's specifically for a class? Another made up delusion by the forum troll, living up to his reputation. Just like you being inside Eric and Dylan's head, lmao.
It's clearly set up as an addition problem.
Man, spamming recent topics just to get your post count up, and posting your troll comments hoping that someone will give you just a few seconds of attention, rough life. First it was giving us all a good laugh, but now it's just pathetic.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Since you already warned him, and he can't keep his idiotic comments to himself, can you do us a favor and rid us of the troll?
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:07 am
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:22 am
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:17 pm
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:43 pm
You have to give credit where it’s due: both boys were masters of irony, particularly Dylan!
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 01, 2019 3:01 pm
A few more things I had sitting around:
Hand signals created for the massacre [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Doom drawing by Eric [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Area where Dylan can be seen sitting behind Blackjack Pizza in "The Lost Boys" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
"I ain't going out without a fight" -Eric Harris [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Redacted shit-list with many names [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Teacher's concern about Dylan's graphic essay [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Various signatures used throughout their lives [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 01, 2019 4:19 pm
I've seen the hand signal list before. I often wonder how many of those signals actually got used or if they just talked to each other during the shooting. I always think about the suicide signal. Did they use it? Perhaps they never spoke any "last words" to each other. They just gave the signal and Eric shot himself then Dylan shot himself.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 01, 2019 5:02 pm
This is actually only the second time I've seen that 'hand-signal' list and I can't help it, it seems infantile in its simplicity. Here's two boys planning to do one of the worst things a person can do, taking a life and they plan on doing it on a mass scale. Then you have the list they have created and it reads like they were playing charades or something.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 5:07 am
What's with people liking to make unreadable signatures? Dylan Dog Dead of Night's second sig looks like it reads "Dylan KlbD"
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 5:09 am
What's with people liking to make unreadable signatures? Dylan Dog Dead of Night's second sig looks like it reads "Dylan KlbD"
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 1:24 pm
Here are a few more:
"Arlene" with Eric's blood on the barrell [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's Blackjack Pizza application [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's last Blackjack paycheck [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's cleared out bedroom [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Screen shot of Eric driving [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The Columbine High School Forensics team from 1997, including Austin Eubanks, Brooks Brown, Nick Baumgart, and Robert Perry [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Hand written letter from the Klebolds to Anne Marie Hochhalter [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The alleged store in the Southwest Plaza mall where Eric & Dylan got their NBK t-shirts made [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
"I have a goal to destroy as much as possible so I must not be sidetracked by my feelings of sympathy, mercy, or any of that, so I will force myself to believe that everyone is just another monster from Doom like FH or FS or demons, so It's either me or them. I have to turn off my feelings."
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 2:43 pm
Great finds!’
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 3:45 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
Great finds!’
Thanks
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 4:02 pm
SandraSmit19 wrote:
This is actually only the second time I've seen that 'hand-signal' list and I can't help it, it seems infantile in its simplicity. Here's two boys planning to do one of the worst things a person can do, taking a life and they plan on doing it on a mass scale. Then you have the list they have created and it reads like they were playing charades or something.
That's so true! Little boys playing war games with real weapons.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 4:46 pm
[quote="slippy123"]Here are a few more:
Screen shot of Eric driving [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
where did you find this
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 11:50 pm
LadyStardust wrote:
This is actually only the second time I've seen that 'hand-signal' list and I can't help it, it seems infantile in its simplicity. Here's two boys planning to do one of the worst things a person can do, taking a life and they plan on doing it on a mass scale. Then you have the list they have created and it reads like they were playing charades or something.
That's so true! Little boys playing war games with real weapons.
It is evidence to show why young people should not be allowed to purchase or have access to deadly weapons until they are at least 21 years old.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 05, 2019 11:51 pm
hvernon wrote:
I've seen the hand signal list before. I often wonder how many of those signals actually got used or if they just talked to each other during the shooting. I always think about the suicide signal. Did they use it? Perhaps they never spoke any "last words" to each other. They just gave the signal and Eric shot himself then Dylan shot himself.
These photos are haunting and heartbreaking at the same time. Same with the thought that both boys were truly alone during the very last moments of their lives.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 06, 2019 12:57 pm
lil_tike_ wrote:
slippy123 wrote:
Here are a few more:
Screen shot of Eric driving [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
where did you find this
It's a screen shot from the highway patrol video.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 06, 2019 1:43 pm
Less common senior photos of Eric & Dylan [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric said he bought a laser for his carbine, and I never noticed it until now [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Students playing hangman to pass the time while waiting for SWAT
Eric's message to Sara Leary in her yearbook, "don't get dead" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's complete high-school transcript showcasing his good grades [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Items returned to the Klebolds after the investigation was closed [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan quoting lyrics from Tupac's infamous song "Hit em up" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric claimed to hate racists, yet seemed to be one himself [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Kristi Epling and Eric had exchanged notes in German class in the weeks leading up to the shooting. After the shooting happened she was afraid to have the notes in her possession, so she mailed them to her friend.
Kristi's e-mail to her friend about holding on to the notes for her [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The notes transcribed almost to the tee, spelling and punctuation errors included [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Kristi Baby,
Guten fuckin tag. Frau sucks, but German rules! thanks for letting me copy allllll that stuff in Deutsch, Hist and chem. Kritzer sure is one Helluva spaz huh. well, our junior year is at an end, woop-de-flippin-do-da, we will be top of the food chain soon. hey, stay away from those Frostys (blacked out…), they might explode some day by no fault of mine! and you could get hurt. hey, your smart, do something cool when you grow up. Gott weiss ich will kein engel sein. [God knows I don’t want to be an angel, from the Rammstein song “Engel”.] oh well. ready for some philosophy? not yet? or… [redacted] and [redacted] need to burn, those pricks will get what’s coming soon. thanks for listening to my problems and shit, bla bla–other nice thoughts–yadda wadda so so so…ok, time for philosophy: Nihilism, Anarchism, and several others are all wrapped up into 1 ball called my head. society wants to get rid of any human instincts we may have, like Kritzer said a few times, the industrial age and factories and shit, all to better the community and lessen the human part of life, “sit in order, be respectful, don’t talk out loud, drive safely, don’t run, don’t lie, bla bla don’t don’t” why the FUCK not!!! we are humans, we should use our brains for something besides memorizing cube roots. the things that put us above animals is our brains, and society wants to flatten it out. they don’t want thinkers and dreamers, only thinkers and dreamers who think and dream about how to be successful and be a good citizen. Anyone who shows more thoughts or emotion than the norm is said to be wierd or crazy, wrong! they are just more in touch w/their humanity, and people who think they can sum up mankind in simple lame quotes piss me off. like “there are 2 kinds of people…the quick and the dead…the smart and the dumb…leaders and followers…” well you fucks are wrong!! The only 2 kinds of people are male and Female!!!!! the rest is B.S. follow your instincts, be free from all, listen to no one, be SELF AWARE!! step back and look at what you are doing, do you look stupid? smart? silly? foolish? that’s why I acted like I did at After prom, have you ever watched, actually watched someone dance? it is ridicu.o…lus. people are funny, they want to be accepted. don’t be afraid to judge people either. people say you shouldn’t judge others because that’s not how they are on the inside…well oh fucking well and to flippin bad, your impression of someone is what they seem like, and if they are to caught up and stupid to have their true self most obvious, then that’s their choice. if they look like a lame gothic black devil wannabe then damnit that’s what they want you to think and boom, verdict made. well, how was that for a trip through the mind of a wise one? I hope you liked it, if you didn’t I don’t care anyway!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Eric: nope, yer on my “Semper Fi” list. but [redacted] still is in the top 5, along with this asshole named [redacted] or [redacted] or something. (arrow to “Semper Fi”) Semper Fidelis >? always faithful. motto of the USMC
Kristi: that’s fine, he knows that. he wants off, or rather, he doesn’t want to die anytime soon
Eric: He will always be under the gun and in the sights since he hit me in the face, even though it didn’t hurt at all. Until I get to hit him back I will always be pissed at him. and his dickhead friend too, If they want “off” then tell them to show some fuckin respect to their elders (me and Dylan) and never make another smart ass remark about us or to us.
Kristi (arrow from redacted): who is this guy?
Eric: Just some faggot punk ska skater shitface who always makes fun of my kleid (German for “clothes, dress”) so I told him to shut the fuck up about it, and he is such a disrespectful smart ass and today he comes up and says “what’s up” in his little smart ass tone so I yelled at him.
Kristi: if you’re going to be pissed @ me for being w/[redacted], then that is your thing, but I think that it’s stupid. I’m still the same person, I didn’t change just b/c I’m w/him, but you are going to do what you will.
Eric: exactly. but I didn’t think you would go out w/someone like him. but oh fuckin well es ist mir scheiss egal. [it’s all shit to me/I don’t give a shit.] does he still want me to be nice to him?
Kristi: I’m sorry I let you down, but I’m happy w/him (for now), he never wanted you to be nice to him, he just didn’t want you to kill him (he’s definitely scared of you.)
Eric: well, if he will let me punch him in the face and not tell a single authoritative figure (not get me in trouble) then I will be happy. I’ll even fuckin say “Hi” to him when he’s w/you. he’ll get down to around “[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]” on my “shitlist” which is basically neutral. his friend is another story though.
Kristi: I’ll tell him, but I don’t know – [redacted] is a dork, I don’t give a shit about him, so you can do what you wish to him.
Eric: oh we will. I don’t expect [redacted] to let me do that either, so until he does not a damn thing will change
Kristi (arrow to “oh we will”): You and Dylan?
Eric: yeah.
Kristi: that’s cool, I’d probably the same way if it was me
Eric: I just don’t want the little fuck going to admin or the cops and start whining that we are threatening him or intimidating him. because if I get in ANY more trouble w/cops I will fucking lose it.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 06, 2019 1:44 pm
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slippy123 wrote:
Here are a few more:
Screen shot of Eric driving [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
where did you find this
That is a still photo from a video they had made [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 06, 2019 4:00 pm
So I noticed on the picture posted of the forensics team has an N. Curnow in the front row. I know we aren’t supposed to post things about victims families (so I seriously apologize that I noticed it) but I did notice that that is the name of Steven’s sister.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 06, 2019 7:12 pm
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Less common senior photos of Eric & Dylan [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric said he bought a laser for his carbine, and I never noticed it until now [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Students playing hangman to pass the time while waiting for SWAT
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Eric's message to Sara Leary in her yearbook, "don't get dead" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's complete high-school transcript showcasing his good grades [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Items returned to the Klebolds after the investigation was closed [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan quoting lyrics from Tupac's infamous song "Hit em up" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric claimed to hate racists, yet seemed to be one himself [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Kristi Epling and Eric had exchanged notes in German class in the weeks leading up to the shooting. After the shooting happened she was afraid to have the notes in her possession, so she mailed them to her friend.
Kristi's e-mail to her friend about holding on to the notes for her [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The notes transcribed almost to the tee, spelling and punctuation errors included [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Kristi Baby,
Guten fuckin tag. Frau sucks, but German rules! thanks for letting me copy allllll that stuff in Deutsch, Hist and chem. Kritzer sure is one Helluva spaz huh. well, our junior year is at an end, woop-de-flippin-do-da, we will be top of the food chain soon. hey, stay away from those Frostys (blacked out…), they might explode some day by no fault of mine! and you could get hurt. hey, your smart, do something cool when you grow up. Gott weiss ich will kein engel sein. [God knows I don’t want to be an angel, from the Rammstein song “Engel”.] oh well. ready for some philosophy? not yet? or… [redacted] and [redacted] need to burn, those pricks will get what’s coming soon. thanks for listening to my problems and shit, bla bla–other nice thoughts–yadda wadda so so so…ok, time for philosophy: Nihilism, Anarchism, and several others are all wrapped up into 1 ball called my head. society wants to get rid of any human instincts we may have, like Kritzer said a few times, the industrial age and factories and shit, all to better the community and lessen the human part of life, “sit in order, be respectful, don’t talk out loud, drive safely, don’t run, don’t lie, bla bla don’t don’t” why the FUCK not!!! we are humans, we should use our brains for something besides memorizing cube roots. the things that put us above animals is our brains, and society wants to flatten it out. they don’t want thinkers and dreamers, only thinkers and dreamers who think and dream about how to be successful and be a good citizen. Anyone who shows more thoughts or emotion than the norm is said to be wierd or crazy, wrong! they are just more in touch w/their humanity, and people who think they can sum up mankind in simple lame quotes piss me off. like “there are 2 kinds of people…the quick and the dead…the smart and the dumb…leaders and followers…” well you fucks are wrong!! The only 2 kinds of people are male and Female!!!!! the rest is B.S. follow your instincts, be free from all, listen to no one, be SELF AWARE!! step back and look at what you are doing, do you look stupid? smart? silly? foolish? that’s why I acted like I did at After prom, have you ever watched, actually watched someone dance? it is ridicu.o…lus. people are funny, they want to be accepted. don’t be afraid to judge people either. people say you shouldn’t judge others because that’s not how they are on the inside…well oh fucking well and to flippin bad, your impression of someone is what they seem like, and if they are to caught up and stupid to have their true self most obvious, then that’s their choice. if they look like a lame gothic black devil wannabe then damnit that’s what they want you to think and boom, verdict made. well, how was that for a trip through the mind of a wise one? I hope you liked it, if you didn’t I don’t care anyway!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
sehen du spater [see you later]
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Kristi: did I make your hit list yet?
Eric: nope, yer on my “Semper Fi” list. but [redacted] still is in the top 5, along with this asshole named [redacted] or [redacted] or something. (arrow to “Semper Fi”) Semper Fidelis >? always faithful. motto of the USMC
Kristi: that’s fine, he knows that. he wants off, or rather, he doesn’t want to die anytime soon
Eric: He will always be under the gun and in the sights since he hit me in the face, even though it didn’t hurt at all. Until I get to hit him back I will always be pissed at him. and his dickhead friend too, If they want “off” then tell them to show some fuckin respect to their elders (me and Dylan) and never make another smart ass remark about us or to us.
Kristi (arrow from redacted): who is this guy?
Eric: Just some faggot punk ska skater shitface who always makes fun of my kleid (German for “clothes, dress”) so I told him to shut the fuck up about it, and he is such a disrespectful smart ass and today he comes up and says “what’s up” in his little smart ass tone so I yelled at him.
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Kristi: if you’re going to be pissed @ me for being w/[redacted], then that is your thing, but I think that it’s stupid. I’m still the same person, I didn’t change just b/c I’m w/him, but you are going to do what you will.
Eric: exactly. but I didn’t think you would go out w/someone like him. but oh fuckin well es ist mir scheiss egal. [it’s all shit to me/I don’t give a shit.] does he still want me to be nice to him?
Kristi: I’m sorry I let you down, but I’m happy w/him (for now), he never wanted you to be nice to him, he just didn’t want you to kill him (he’s definitely scared of you.)
Eric: well, if he will let me punch him in the face and not tell a single authoritative figure (not get me in trouble) then I will be happy. I’ll even fuckin say “Hi” to him when he’s w/you. he’ll get down to around “[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]” on my “shitlist” which is basically neutral. his friend is another story though.
Kristi: I’ll tell him, but I don’t know – [redacted] is a dork, I don’t give a shit about him, so you can do what you wish to him.
Eric: oh we will. I don’t expect [redacted] to let me do that either, so until he does not a damn thing will change
Kristi (arrow to “oh we will”): You and Dylan?
Eric: yeah.
Kristi: that’s cool, I’d probably the same way if it was me
Eric: I just don’t want the little fuck going to admin or the cops and start whining that we are threatening him or intimidating him. because if I get in ANY more trouble w/cops I will fucking lose it.
Interesting find! I’ve never seen this before. It really makes you think!
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Tue May 07, 2019 11:06 am
true_crime wrote:
slippy123 wrote:
Less common senior photos of Eric & Dylan [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric said he bought a laser for his carbine, and I never noticed it until now [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Students playing hangman to pass the time while waiting for SWAT
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Eric's message to Sara Leary in her yearbook, "don't get dead" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric's complete high-school transcript showcasing his good grades [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Items returned to the Klebolds after the investigation was closed [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Dylan quoting lyrics from Tupac's infamous song "Hit em up" [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Eric claimed to hate racists, yet seemed to be one himself [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Kristi Epling and Eric had exchanged notes in German class in the weeks leading up to the shooting. After the shooting happened she was afraid to have the notes in her possession, so she mailed them to her friend.
Kristi's e-mail to her friend about holding on to the notes for her [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
The notes transcribed almost to the tee, spelling and punctuation errors included [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Kristi Baby,
Guten fuckin tag. Frau sucks, but German rules! thanks for letting me copy allllll that stuff in Deutsch, Hist and chem. Kritzer sure is one Helluva spaz huh. well, our junior year is at an end, woop-de-flippin-do-da, we will be top of the food chain soon. hey, stay away from those Frostys (blacked out…), they might explode some day by no fault of mine! and you could get hurt. hey, your smart, do something cool when you grow up. Gott weiss ich will kein engel sein. [God knows I don’t want to be an angel, from the Rammstein song “Engel”.] oh well. ready for some philosophy? not yet? or… [redacted] and [redacted] need to burn, those pricks will get what’s coming soon. thanks for listening to my problems and shit, bla bla–other nice thoughts–yadda wadda so so so…ok, time for philosophy: Nihilism, Anarchism, and several others are all wrapped up into 1 ball called my head. society wants to get rid of any human instincts we may have, like Kritzer said a few times, the industrial age and factories and shit, all to better the community and lessen the human part of life, “sit in order, be respectful, don’t talk out loud, drive safely, don’t run, don’t lie, bla bla don’t don’t” why the FUCK not!!! we are humans, we should use our brains for something besides memorizing cube roots. the things that put us above animals is our brains, and society wants to flatten it out. they don’t want thinkers and dreamers, only thinkers and dreamers who think and dream about how to be successful and be a good citizen. Anyone who shows more thoughts or emotion than the norm is said to be wierd or crazy, wrong! they are just more in touch w/their humanity, and people who think they can sum up mankind in simple lame quotes piss me off. like “there are 2 kinds of people…the quick and the dead…the smart and the dumb…leaders and followers…” well you fucks are wrong!! The only 2 kinds of people are male and Female!!!!! the rest is B.S. follow your instincts, be free from all, listen to no one, be SELF AWARE!! step back and look at what you are doing, do you look stupid? smart? silly? foolish? that’s why I acted like I did at After prom, have you ever watched, actually watched someone dance? it is ridicu.o…lus. people are funny, they want to be accepted. don’t be afraid to judge people either. people say you shouldn’t judge others because that’s not how they are on the inside…well oh fucking well and to flippin bad, your impression of someone is what they seem like, and if they are to caught up and stupid to have their true self most obvious, then that’s their choice. if they look like a lame gothic black devil wannabe then damnit that’s what they want you to think and boom, verdict made. well, how was that for a trip through the mind of a wise one? I hope you liked it, if you didn’t I don’t care anyway!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
sehen du spater [see you later]
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Kristi: did I make your hit list yet?
Eric: nope, yer on my “Semper Fi” list. but [redacted] still is in the top 5, along with this asshole named [redacted] or [redacted] or something. (arrow to “Semper Fi”) Semper Fidelis >? always faithful. motto of the USMC
Kristi: that’s fine, he knows that. he wants off, or rather, he doesn’t want to die anytime soon
Eric: He will always be under the gun and in the sights since he hit me in the face, even though it didn’t hurt at all. Until I get to hit him back I will always be pissed at him. and his dickhead friend too, If they want “off” then tell them to show some fuckin respect to their elders (me and Dylan) and never make another smart ass remark about us or to us.
Kristi (arrow from redacted): who is this guy?
Eric: Just some faggot punk ska skater shitface who always makes fun of my kleid (German for “clothes, dress”) so I told him to shut the fuck up about it, and he is such a disrespectful smart ass and today he comes up and says “what’s up” in his little smart ass tone so I yelled at him.
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Kristi: if you’re going to be pissed @ me for being w/[redacted], then that is your thing, but I think that it’s stupid. I’m still the same person, I didn’t change just b/c I’m w/him, but you are going to do what you will.
Eric: exactly. but I didn’t think you would go out w/someone like him. but oh fuckin well es ist mir scheiss egal. [it’s all shit to me/I don’t give a shit.] does he still want me to be nice to him?
Kristi: I’m sorry I let you down, but I’m happy w/him (for now), he never wanted you to be nice to him, he just didn’t want you to kill him (he’s definitely scared of you.)
Eric: well, if he will let me punch him in the face and not tell a single authoritative figure (not get me in trouble) then I will be happy. I’ll even fuckin say “Hi” to him when he’s w/you. he’ll get down to around “[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]” on my “shitlist” which is basically neutral. his friend is another story though.
Kristi: I’ll tell him, but I don’t know – [redacted] is a dork, I don’t give a shit about him, so you can do what you wish to him.
Eric: oh we will. I don’t expect [redacted] to let me do that either, so until he does not a damn thing will change
Kristi (arrow to “oh we will”): You and Dylan?
Eric: yeah.
Kristi: that’s cool, I’d probably the same way if it was me
Eric: I just don’t want the little fuck going to admin or the cops and start whining that we are threatening him or intimidating him. because if I get in ANY more trouble w/cops I will fucking lose it.
Interesting find! I’ve never seen this before. It really makes you think!
Thanks! Glad you found it interesting!
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Tue May 07, 2019 3:10 pm
Some nice pictures and scans! I've always enjoyed Dylan's hilariously wrong lyrics to Tupac's song.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 08, 2019 11:53 am
hvernon wrote:
Some nice pictures and scans! I've always enjoyed Dylan's hilariously wrong lyrics to Tupac's song.
Thanks! I chuckled at that too!
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 08, 2019 12:10 pm
Round 5:
Renee Kinsella's 11k entry talking about Dylan and Brooks being known for exaggerating
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 08, 2019 12:34 pm
The love letter to Jen kills me. “If you don’t, just don’t say anything. I’ll understand. I’m used to it.”
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 08, 2019 12:42 pm
LadyStardust wrote:
The love letter to Jen kills me. “If you don’t, just don’t say anything. I’ll understand. I’m used to it.”
I guess he was trying the sympathy approach People tend to say that Dylan was the hopeless romantic of the two, but I tend to think Eric wanted to find love just as much, if not more. Eric actually seemed to go after girls, while Dylan seemed to internalize it more, keeping it to himself and his journal.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 08, 2019 12:53 pm
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The love letter to Jen kills me. “If you don’t, just don’t say anything. I’ll understand. I’m used to it.”
But somehow Cullen thinks Eric was a confident ladies man
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Wed May 08, 2019 3:48 pm
Screamingophelia wrote:
LadyStardust wrote:
The love letter to Jen kills me. “If you don’t, just don’t say anything. I’ll understand. I’m used to it.”
But somehow Cullen thinks Eric was a confident ladies man
If only there was a barf emoji
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 19, 2019 1:27 am
Those letters Kristi tried to hide really bother me and I’m not sure why. I mean really made me feel sick inside. I never knew they existed, thank you for sharing them. I need to do some reading up on her apparently because while I’ve seen her name here and there, I didn’t realize ... that .... she sounds like she knew what they were planning? Can someone point me in a good direction for info?
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 19, 2019 9:26 am
Bugg wrote:
Those letters Kristi tried to hide really bother me and I’m not sure why. I mean really made me feel sick inside. I never knew they existed, thank you for sharing them. I need to do some reading up on her apparently because while I’ve seen her name here and there, I didn’t realize ... that .... she sounds like she knew what they were planning? Can someone point me in a good direction for info?
Find her name in the 11 k and you'll have tons to read. I wish someone would make a version of the 11k that is searchable so you don't have to go through all the witnesses in alphabetical order just to find one. Damn it's annoying.
I found this when googling Kristi, anyone know where it's from or have picture where you can see more of the page?
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Sun May 19, 2019 10:13 am
munchkinphone wrote:
Bugg wrote:
Those letters Kristi tried to hide really bother me and I’m not sure why. I mean really made me feel sick inside. I never knew they existed, thank you for sharing them. I need to do some reading up on her apparently because while I’ve seen her name here and there, I didn’t realize ... that .... she sounds like she knew what they were planning? Can someone point me in a good direction for info?
Find her name in the 11 k and you'll have tons to read. I wish someone would make a version of the 11k that is searchable so you don't have to go through all the witnesses in alphabetical order just to find one. Damn it's annoying.
I found this when googling Kristi, anyone know where it's from or have picture where you can see more of the page?
I never saw the Sophomore quote before! Great find.
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 20, 2019 2:14 pm
munchkinphone wrote:
Bugg wrote:
Those letters Kristi tried to hide really bother me and I’m not sure why. I mean really made me feel sick inside. I never knew they existed, thank you for sharing them. I need to do some reading up on her apparently because while I’ve seen her name here and there, I didn’t realize ... that .... she sounds like she knew what they were planning? Can someone point me in a good direction for info?
Find her name in the 11 k and you'll have tons to read. I wish someone would make a version of the 11k that is searchable so you don't have to go through all the witnesses in alphabetical order just to find one. Damn it's annoying.
I found this when googling Kristi, anyone know where it's from or have picture where you can see more of the page?
Yes, a searchable 11k would make things so much simpler! I’ve been through it a few times, and can never locate exactly what I’m looking for. That thing is my nemesis.. And google I have trust issues LOL
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Subject: Re: Rare and interesting photos thread, including a new possible photo of Eric. Mon May 20, 2019 2:22 pm
Bugg wrote:
munchkinphone wrote:
Bugg wrote:
Those letters Kristi tried to hide really bother me and I’m not sure why. I mean really made me feel sick inside. I never knew they existed, thank you for sharing them. I need to do some reading up on her apparently because while I’ve seen her name here and there, I didn’t realize ... that .... she sounds like she knew what they were planning? Can someone point me in a good direction for info?
Find her name in the 11 k and you'll have tons to read. I wish someone would make a version of the 11k that is searchable so you don't have to go through all the witnesses in alphabetical order just to find one. Damn it's annoying.
I found this when googling Kristi, anyone know where it's from or have picture where you can see more of the page?
Yes, a searchable 11k would make things so much simpler! I’ve been through it a few times, and can never locate exactly what I’m looking for. That thing is my nemesis.. And google I have trust issues LOL
That Ethan dude is creating a searchable 11k. He let me check out what he has so far and it looks promising.
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