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PostSubject: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Oct 26, 2017 10:14 pm

What shootings were stopped or prevented before they even happend, or if they did happen with only a few victims, had the potential to be like what Anders Brievik and Stephen Paddock did?
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Oct 26, 2017 11:17 pm

I think this attempt is the most notable one. If I can think of any others I'll be sure to list them.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Oct 27, 2017 5:17 am

I've already mentioned him before, but Liam Lyburd is interesting. He bought a 9mm Glock 19 Gen 3, 3 31 round Glock 9mm magazines, 94 9mm JHP bullets, CS gas canisters and materials used to make pipe bombs. He lived in Newcastle and was arrested hours before he was going to commit his attack.
Although I hate Buzzfeed and all their radical feminist stuff (I don't have a problem with regular feminism, but radical feminism is bad) they made a good article on him.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Oct 28, 2017 6:49 am

Kimveer Gill brought a Beretta Cx4 Storm and a handgun to Dawson College. The Cx4 Storm's muzzle velocity is as high as a P226's, therefore making it a powerful carbine. If it weren't for the two police officers (who happened to be at the school for an unrelated incident) and who forced Kimveer to hold two people hostage then consequently kill himself, he would've unfortunately killed a lot more people.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Nov 11, 2017 6:02 am

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I doubt it would have ended up as anything more than a minor shooting since he only had a double-barreled shotgun and a knife, at least 2 would be injured but after that he could easily be tackled while reloading and that would have been the end of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Nov 11, 2017 8:04 am

About 100 Muslims each day (srs), thank god we have the police, thank Allah most Muslims are fuckwits.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSun Nov 12, 2017 2:52 pm

an elliot copycat got stopped this week, he even made videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1Pbxi8yzoWYUYm0sE8tsQ/videos
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSun Nov 12, 2017 5:14 pm

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an elliot copycat got stopped this week, he even made videos

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Do you have any news articles on it or anything? I can't find stuff on him.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSun Nov 12, 2017 5:24 pm

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an elliot copycat got stopped this week, he even made videos

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Do you have any news articles on it or anything? I can't find stuff on him.

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InsaneIntruder wrote:
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an elliot copycat got stopped this week, he even made videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1Pbxi8yzoWYUYm0sE8tsQ/videos
Do you have any news articles on it or anything? I can't find stuff on him.

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/06/man-who-had-attended-soka-and-threatened-killing-spree-in-youtube-videos-is-arrested-9-guns-found/

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-orange-county-attack-threat-suspect-arrested-20171106-story.html
Interesting...

i found these ones unsettling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Wwt9uw0Zc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0KJFRL53KU

his dad also shot himself because he some disease or something
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeMon Nov 13, 2017 8:01 am

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an elliot copycat got stopped this week, he even made videos

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Interesting...

i found these ones unsettling

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his dad also shot himself because he some disease or something

Seems like the kind of guy the browses incel forums TBH
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeMon Nov 13, 2017 1:35 pm

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an elliot copycat got stopped this week, he even made videos

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Interesting...

i found these ones unsettling

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his dad also shot himself because he some disease or something

Seems like the kind of guy the browses incel forums TBH
Wouldn't be surprised if he had an account on lookism.net.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeMon Nov 13, 2017 10:10 pm

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Seems like the kind of guy the browses incel forums TBH

I'll bet ten bucks he was threatening to go on a murder rampage because r/incels got shut down.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeTue Nov 14, 2017 4:09 am

Maybe some of you remember shallow existence (James gamble ) and cockswastika (Lindsay souvanarah ) and randy shepherd (genestogenocide )who all three were quiet active on tumblr a few years ago. They got arrested for planning to shot up a mall on valentines day 2015 and had materials to make Molotov cocktails, bombs and a hunting rifle and shotgun. Im not sure ho mutch of a high kill count they would have gotten but without a doubt they'd have become a lot of fame since James and Lindsay planned to do the main thing together and that didn't happened that often (although I think it's actually a nice valentines day idea for an activity with your crush hahaha )
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeWed Nov 15, 2017 8:13 pm

i cant find the news article but there was a guy in New York i believe who killed his wife and cop. But apparently the guy planned on shooting up his school as a kid.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Nov 23, 2017 4:47 pm

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I've already mentioned him before, but Liam Lyburd is interesting. He bought a 9mm Glock 19 Gen 3, 3 31 round Glock 9mm magazines, 94 9mm JHP bullets, CS gas canisters and materials used to make pipe bombs. He lived in Newcastle and was arrested hours before he was going to commit his attack.
Although I hate Buzzfeed and all their radical feminist stuff (I don't have a problem with regular feminism, but radical feminism is bad) they made a good article on him.
www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/how-one-british-teenager-used-the-digital-black-ma


He was just stupid to make those facebook comments, and also very unlucky.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Nov 23, 2017 7:31 pm

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Two in England.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Nov 23, 2017 10:48 pm

i still belive Liam Lyburd was the best shooter the UK never had.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Nov 23, 2017 10:53 pm

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i still belive Liam Lyburd was the best shooter the UK never had.
Indeed. He could've gotten a high kill count if he wasn't stopped. And he was the only one that actually managed to get guns before getting stopped. He was arrested hours before he planned to commit the attack which is honestly unbelievable. If they had delayed raiding him by only a few hours he might've done it.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeThu Nov 23, 2017 11:18 pm

According to this news article:
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The infamous serial killer David Berkowitz (AKA "The Son of Sam") planned to go out in a "blaze of glory" by shooting up a night club with an assault rifle.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Nov 24, 2017 12:15 am

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Indeed. He could've gotten a high kill count if he wasn't stopped. And he was the only one that actually managed to get guns before getting stopped. He was arrested hours before he planned to commit the attack which is honestly unbelievable. If they had delayed raiding him by only a few hours he might've done it.

Out of curiousity how much do you define to be a high kill count?
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Nov 24, 2017 12:57 am

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Indeed. He could've gotten a high kill count if he wasn't stopped. And he was the only one that actually managed to get guns before getting stopped. He was arrested hours before he planned to commit the attack which is honestly unbelievable. If they had delayed raiding him by only a few hours he might've done it.

Out of curiousity how much do you define to be a high kill count?

I can't speak for him, but personally I'd define it as 20 or more people killed.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Nov 24, 2017 1:10 am

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Indeed. He could've gotten a high kill count if he wasn't stopped. And he was the only one that actually managed to get guns before getting stopped. He was arrested hours before he planned to commit the attack which is honestly unbelievable. If they had delayed raiding him by only a few hours he might've done it.

Out of curiousity how much do you define to be a high kill count?

I can't speak for him, but personally I'd define it as 20 or more people killed.
15 or more.

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Indeed. He could've gotten a high kill count if he wasn't stopped. And he was the only one that actually managed to get guns before getting stopped. He was arrested hours before he planned to commit the attack which is honestly unbelievable. If they had delayed raiding him by only a few hours he might've done it.

Out of curiousity how much do you define to be a high kill count?

I can't speak for him, but personally I'd define it as 20 or more people killed.

id say depends on the time period as well..like the Sutherland springs shooter would of been huge news if it happened in like 2011
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Out of curiousity how much do you define to be a high kill count?

I can't speak for him, but personally I'd define it as 20 or more people killed.
15 or more.
And I thought my standards were high with 10.

You think he could have killed 15+?
He had less than 100 hollow point bullets and (I presume) little to no practice With his Glock.
And the fact that this was a college, not a primary school like Dunblane makes me think he would not be able to get that many kills, with a lot more being injured.

I do believe it would be a big deal, but i don't know if it could be that big.

There are so many variable factors such as where he would attack, how he would attack, how the students would react, how quickly police responded, whether the pipe bombs would go off and how bad his accuracy would be that it's hard to say how many kills he could have gotten.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Nov 24, 2017 6:58 am

Newcastle-on-Tyne is a big city so the SWAT teams would be quick to react.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Dec 01, 2017 8:24 pm

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i cant find the news article but there was a guy in New York i believe who killed his wife and cop. But apparently the guy planned on shooting up his school as a kid.

Maybe you guys could find the article on him  
Are you talking about Justin Walters?
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Dec 01, 2017 8:25 pm

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i cant find the news article but there was a guy in New York i believe who killed his wife and cop. But apparently the guy planned on shooting up his school as a kid.

Maybe you guys could find the article on him  
Are you talking about Justin Walters?

yeah
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Dec 01, 2017 8:27 pm

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i cant find the news article but there was a guy in New York i believe who killed his wife and cop. But apparently the guy planned on shooting up his school as a kid.

Maybe you guys could find the article on him  
Are you talking about Justin Walters?

yeah
I didn't see anything about him wanting to shoot up a school...
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i cant find the news article but there was a guy in New York i believe who killed his wife and cop. But apparently the guy planned on shooting up his school as a kid.

Maybe you guys could find the article on him  
Are you talking about Justin Walters?

yeah
I didn't see anything about him wanting to shoot up a school...

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/news03/report-alleged-theresa-shooter-plotted-to-kill-classmates-at-michigan-middle-school-20170712&template=mwdt
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeFri Dec 01, 2017 11:29 pm

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i cant find the news article but there was a guy in New York i believe who killed his wife and cop. But apparently the guy planned on shooting up his school as a kid.

Maybe you guys could find the article on him  
Are you talking about Justin Walters?

yeah
I didn't see anything about him wanting to shoot up a school...

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Thanks for that article. Does it say anywhere that it was inspired by Columbine? I didn't see it mentioned by name, but the timing and the details suggest that it was.
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Sharing since it's December, and I recently remembered this case.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alaska-kids-school-shooting-stopped/

Sharing since it's December, and I recently remembered this case.

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"These included military-style clothing, floorplans of their school and contact lenses designed to make their eyes completely white - just like those worn by the Columbine killers."
Contact lenses? E&D never wore contact lenses in the massacre. At least I think so.

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Dec 02, 2017 4:20 pm

I remember when these three people planned to shoot up a mall at the Halifax Shopping Centre. Two of the perpetrators were arrested and one ended up committing suicide..They even hinted of the shooting before hand on their Tumblr accounts. 

The media was talking about Columbiners for days after that. 

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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Dec 02, 2017 5:03 pm

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I remember when these three people planning to shoot up a mall at the Halifax Shopping Centre. Two of the perpetrators were arrested and one ended up committing suicide..They even hinted of the shooting before hand on their Tumblr accounts. 

The media was talking about Columbiners for days after that. 

Really wish I could post a link, but I am a new member.
I heard that James Gamble (the guy who had the guns and commit suicide) actually was the one who sent the tip to Crimestoppers that got the other 2 arrested.
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I remember when these three people planning to shoot up a mall at the Halifax Shopping Centre. Two of the perpetrators were arrested and one ended up committing suicide..They even hinted of the shooting before hand on their Tumblr accounts. 

The media was talking about Columbiners for days after that. 

Really wish I could post a link, but I am a new member.
I heard that James Gamble (the guy who had the guns and commit suicide) actually was the one who sent the tip to Crimestoppers that got the other 2 arrested.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's what I heard too.

Pretty eerie that their Tumblr accounts are still up imo.
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I remember when these three people planning to shoot up a mall at the Halifax Shopping Centre. Two of the perpetrators were arrested and one ended up committing suicide..They even hinted of the shooting before hand on their Tumblr accounts. 

The media was talking about Columbiners for days after that. 

Really wish I could post a link, but I am a new member.
I heard that James Gamble (the guy who had the guns and commit suicide) actually was the one who sent the tip to Crimestoppers that got the other 2 arrested.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's what I heard too.

Pretty eerie that their Tumblr accounts are still up imo.

Yeah, if it was Facebook the accounts would've been shut down by the time they figured out who it belonged to.

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"These included military-style clothing, floorplans of their school and contact lenses designed to make their eyes completely white - just like those worn by the Columbine killers."
Contact lenses? E&D never wore contact lenses in the massacre. At least I think so.

They didn't.
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Found this in article
"These included military-style clothing, floorplans of their school and contact lenses designed to make their eyes completely white - just like those worn by the Columbine killers."
Contact lenses? E&D never wore contact lenses in the massacre. At least I think so.
The Daily Mail (A.K.A. The Daily Fail) is garbage.
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First link that came up on google, there is tons of other news outlets that covered those boys. I actually don't trust any media site as I've had stories written about me and people I've known and the articles are about as far from reality as possible.

A former friend of mine took a knife to his office block and attempted to stab someone he worked with, and because I would discuss crime topics with him a year earlier, they included me in the news report saying how I was his side kick, even though the police checked my computer and didn't find anything linked to him and were even told by him that he hadn't talked to me in a year. Luckily I was 17 at the time so by law they couldn't say my name on TV or the reports. But it made me realize that the police must be feeding info to the media for a bribe or something, there is no way the media could have even known I was his friend as it was before the social media days and I only had him on MSN Messenger under a nickname. The police must have tipped them off about this information.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Dec 02, 2017 7:54 pm

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First link that came up on google, there is tons of other news outlets that covered those boys. I actually don't trust any media site as I've had stories written about me and people I've known and the articles are about as far from reality as possible.

A former friend of mine took a knife to his office block and attempted to stab someone he worked with, and because I would discuss crime topics with him a year earlier, they included me in the news report saying how I was his side kick, even though the police checked my computer and didn't find anything linked to him and were even told by him that he hadn't talked to me in a year. Luckily I was 17 at the time so by law they couldn't say my name on TV or the reports. But it made me realize that the police must be feeding info to the media for a bribe or something, there is no way the media could have even known I was his friend as it was before the social media days and I only had him on MSN Messenger under a nickname. The police must have tipped them off about this information.
That's horrible..so sorry you had to go through that Sad
Very unnecessary for them to drag you into that shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Shootings that never were   Shootings that never were Icon_minitimeSat Dec 02, 2017 8:04 pm

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First link that came up on google, there is tons of other news outlets that covered those boys. I actually don't trust any media site as I've had stories written about me and people I've known and the articles are about as far from reality as possible.

A former friend of mine took a knife to his office block and attempted to stab someone he worked with, and because I would discuss crime topics with him a year earlier, they included me in the news report saying how I was his side kick, even though the police checked my computer and didn't find anything linked to him and were even told by him that he hadn't talked to me in a year. Luckily I was 17 at the time so by law they couldn't say my name on TV or the reports. But it made me realize that the police must be feeding info to the media for a bribe or something, there is no way the media could have even known I was his friend as it was before the social media days and I only had him on MSN Messenger under a nickname. The police must have tipped them off about this information.
Sorry about that.
Also do you have any news reports about your friend? Just curious.
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A former friend of mine took a knife to his office block and attempted to stab someone he worked with, and because I would discuss crime topics with him a year earlier, they included me in the news report saying how I was his side kick, even though the police checked my computer and didn't find anything linked to him and were even told by him that he hadn't talked to me in a year.
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