Is it wrong liking dylan and eric

Screamingophelia wrote:

True SororityAlpha

I THINK you may be in the wrong place BehindZero, no one hear worships them. I mean, go to tumblr then that is something else, but that's mostly a lot of late teens early 20's who may not have nuanced views yet.

Yeah, tumblr is full of fangrils and fanboys

Agreed!

I don't think it is necessarily bad to not feel sad about the 15 that died bc with the exception of Amanda, none of us knew them or met them. If you felt bad for every single person that ever died a violent death you would never stop crying about it....

but

If you think this shooting was truly about bullying.... you need to look into it more. Bullying had very little to do with it. The 'story' behind E&D is not great. It is sad and pathetic. 2 boys too immature and too cowardly to just hang on for when their lives would have gotten better decided to take the lives of 13 others and ruin countless number of other lives in the process.

It is one thing to be interested in Columbine for research, for true crime, or for relating to E&D on some level, but to be interested in it because you glorify what happened is not good.

Lizpuff wrote:

I don't think it is necessarily bad to not feel sad about the 15 that died bc with the exception of Amanda, none of us knew them or met them.  If you felt bad for every single person that ever died a violent death you would never stop crying about it....

but

If you think this shooting was truly about bullying.... you need to look into it more.  Bullying had very little to do with it.   The 'story' behind E&D is not great.  It is sad and pathetic.  2 boys too immature and too cowardly to just hang on for when their lives would have gotten better decided to take the lives of 13 others and ruin countless number of other lives in the process.  

It is one thing to be interested in Columbine for research, for true crime, or for relating to E&D on some level, but to be interested in it because you glorify what happened is not good.  

I get your point. I don't think that massacre happened because of the bullying. Bullying had effect on their lives and may changed them a little bit but Eric and Dylan were mentally ill and no one reacted on them. Just to clear this out. I'm not worshiping them or anything like that. I'm interested in Columbine for research but I can say that I can relate to Eric sometimes cuz I experienced bullying and wanted to destroy everyone in my school. But everything related to Columbine or to Eric and Dylan is very interesting to me.

DooMRebel wrote:

Lizpuff wrote:

I don't think it is necessarily bad to not feel sad about the 15 that died bc with the exception of Amanda, none of us knew them or met them.  If you felt bad for every single person that ever died a violent death you would never stop crying about it....

but

If you think this shooting was truly about bullying.... you need to look into it more.  Bullying had very little to do with it.   The 'story' behind E&D is not great.  It is sad and pathetic.  2 boys too immature and too cowardly to just hang on for when their lives would have gotten better decided to take the lives of 13 others and ruin countless number of other lives in the process.  

It is one thing to be interested in Columbine for research, for true crime, or for relating to E&D on some level, but to be interested in it because you glorify what happened is not good.  

I get your point. I don't think that massacre happened because of the bullying. Bullying had effect on their lives and may changed them a little bit but Eric and Dylan were mentally ill and no one reacted on them. Just to clear this out. I'm not worshiping them or anything like that. I'm interested in Columbine for research but I can say that I can relate to Eric sometimes cuz I experienced bullying and wanted to destroy everyone in my school. But everything related to Columbine or to Eric and Dylan is very interesting to me.

I know you are not. This was more to the OP of this thread.

I am also interested in Columbine otherwise I would not find myself here lol.

There was a multitude of reasons behind the tragedy. It's important to learn from it and see how it can be prevented again.

Right now mass shootings are being done by adults who are getting their guns legally for the most part.

Eric and Dylans minds were not fully formed yet, and anyone who says they didn't have any kind of mental illness are KIDDING themselves.

Bullying added to it, feeling isolated and inhuman added to it, their friendship was toxic in many ways.

Lizpuff wrote:

If you think this shooting was truly about bullying.... you need to look into it more.  Bullying had very little to do with it.   The 'story' behind E&D is not great.  It is sad and pathetic.  2 boys too immature and too cowardly to just hang on for when their lives would have gotten better decided to take the lives of 13 others and ruin countless number of other lives in the process.

That is a very harsh, yet COMPLETELY accurate description.

DooMRebel wrote:

dayzrp wrote:

Im not sad as well shit like that happends

I would feel sad only if my parents or close friends died or something like that.

Isn't this fairly normal though?

I dont get sad about strangers dying either unless I see something that makes me understand a part of their sorrow or relate on a personal level, like the interview with craig scott and Isaiahs father. That was rough. Imo much harder to watch than all the camerafootage and 911calls.

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

Lizpuff wrote:

If you think this shooting was truly about bullying.... you need to look into it more.  Bullying had very little to do with it.   The 'story' behind E&D is not great.  It is sad and pathetic.  2 boys too immature and too cowardly to just hang on for when their lives would have gotten better decided to take the lives of 13 others and ruin countless number of other lives in the process.

That is a very harsh, yet COMPLETELY accurate description.

Another reason Dylan deeply needed a psychiatrist, the issue would be getting him to talk and also tell the truth. However, if he found someone he trusted and maybe got on some meds for a while, he could have gone far. My humble, non psychiatrists opinion.

  

  

  

DooMRebel wrote:

Yumeko-chan wrote:

You're not sorry for the kids that died?  They were innocent!  I had to listen to them die and trust me, you don't want to know what that's like.

I know I should feel sorry for them, but I don't. About a week ago my cousin died but I wasn't sad. I'm kinda messed up right now . When my grandpa died 6 months ago I didn't know how will I live without him. About that time I got homicidal thoughts... I'm just messed up right now.

My condolences for the death of your grandfather. I cried my eyes out when my maternal grandfather died, as for the paternal one not so much, I was quite indifferent and apathetic to him since he never came to see me, never sent gifts, was abusive towards my grandmother and father, cheated on her and gambled away their money and first apartment and was responsible for my uncle's death. I sort of get the sentiment but the way you express it makes it sound harsh, those kids were innocent. When some mass disaster occurs like a terrorist attack, tidal wave, earthquake, plane crash etc. and a lot of people die, it's very tragic indeed but most people are not personally affected and thus not particularly sad. In other words, for most people it was a normal and mundane day. I don't think we're biologically fit to be sad and cry for every tragedy, it would exhaust us mentally. The Columbine massacre has a low enough number of victims for one to easily read about them and get some idea what kind of people they were. I did that and it was a rather humbling experience. I have a soft spot for a few of them in particular and they can serve as a source of inspiration. I hope you sort out your emotional state, even if it seems dark there are people who love you and there are kind people in this world. Here's a sentiment I'd like to share from a recent news article: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Tuga wrote:

DooMRebel wrote:

Yumeko-chan wrote:

You're not sorry for the kids that died?  They were innocent!  I had to listen to them die and trust me, you don't want to know what that's like.

I know I should feel sorry for them, but I don't. About a week ago my cousin died but I wasn't sad. I'm kinda messed up right now . When my grandpa died 6 months ago I didn't know how will I live without him. About that time I got homicidal thoughts... I'm just messed up right now.

My condolences for the death of your grandfather. I cried my eyes out when my maternal grandfather died, as for the paternal one not so much, I was quite indifferent and apathetic to him since he never came to see me, never sent gifts, was abusive towards my grandmother and father, cheated on her and gambled away their money and first apartment and was responsible for my uncle's death. I sort of get the sentiment but the way you express it makes it sound harsh, those kids were innocent. When some mass disaster occurs like a terrorist attack, tidal wave, earthquake, plane crash etc. and a lot of people die, it's very tragic indeed but most people are not personally affected and thus not particularly sad. In other words, for most people it was a normal and mundane day. I don't think we're biologically fit to be sad and cry for every tragedy, it would exhaust us mentally. The Columbine massacre has a low enough number of victims for one to easily read about them and get some idea what kind of people they were. I did that and it was a rather humbling experience. I have a soft spot for a few of them in particular and they can serve as a source of inspiration. I hope you sort out your emotional state, even if it seems dark there are people who love you and there are kind people in this world. Here's a sentiment I'd like to share from a recent news article: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Thanks for the support! May I ask you are you from Balkans countries? Cuz your name means sadness on my language

DooMRebel wrote:

Tuga wrote:

DooMRebel wrote:

Yumeko-chan wrote:

You're not sorry for the kids that died?  They were innocent!  I had to listen to them die and trust me, you don't want to know what that's like.

I know I should feel sorry for them, but I don't. About a week ago my cousin died but I wasn't sad. I'm kinda messed up right now . When my grandpa died 6 months ago I didn't know how will I live without him. About that time I got homicidal thoughts... I'm just messed up right now.

My condolences for the death of your grandfather. I cried my eyes out when my maternal grandfather died, as for the paternal one not so much, I was quite indifferent and apathetic to him since he never came to see me, never sent gifts, was abusive towards my grandmother and father, cheated on her and gambled away their money and first apartment and was responsible for my uncle's death. I sort of get the sentiment but the way you express it makes it sound harsh, those kids were innocent. When some mass disaster occurs like a terrorist attack, tidal wave, earthquake, plane crash etc. and a lot of people die, it's very tragic indeed but most people are not personally affected and thus not particularly sad. In other words, for most people it was a normal and mundane day. I don't think we're biologically fit to be sad and cry for every tragedy, it would exhaust us mentally. The Columbine massacre has a low enough number of victims for one to easily read about them and get some idea what kind of people they were. I did that and it was a rather humbling experience. I have a soft spot for a few of them in particular and they can serve as a source of inspiration. I hope you sort out your emotional state, even if it seems dark there are people who love you and there are kind people in this world. Here's a sentiment I'd like to share from a recent news article: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Thanks for the support! May I ask you are you from Balkans countries? Cuz your name means sadness on my language

Yes I am . I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina. If you need a pen pal feel free to message me.

Tuga wrote:

DooMRebel wrote:

Tuga wrote:

DooMRebel wrote:

Yumeko-chan wrote:

You're not sorry for the kids that died?  They were innocent!  I had to listen to them die and trust me, you don't want to know what that's like.

I know I should feel sorry for them, but I don't. About a week ago my cousin died but I wasn't sad. I'm kinda messed up right now . When my grandpa died 6 months ago I didn't know how will I live without him. About that time I got homicidal thoughts... I'm just messed up right now.

My condolences for the death of your grandfather. I cried my eyes out when my maternal grandfather died, as for the paternal one not so much, I was quite indifferent and apathetic to him since he never came to see me, never sent gifts, was abusive towards my grandmother and father, cheated on her and gambled away their money and first apartment and was responsible for my uncle's death. I sort of get the sentiment but the way you express it makes it sound harsh, those kids were innocent. When some mass disaster occurs like a terrorist attack, tidal wave, earthquake, plane crash etc. and a lot of people die, it's very tragic indeed but most people are not personally affected and thus not particularly sad. In other words, for most people it was a normal and mundane day. I don't think we're biologically fit to be sad and cry for every tragedy, it would exhaust us mentally. The Columbine massacre has a low enough number of victims for one to easily read about them and get some idea what kind of people they were. I did that and it was a rather humbling experience. I have a soft spot for a few of them in particular and they can serve as a source of inspiration. I hope you sort out your emotional state, even if it seems dark there are people who love you and there are kind people in this world. Here's a sentiment I'd like to share from a recent news article: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Thanks for the support! May I ask you are you from Balkans countries? Cuz your name means sadness on my language

Yes I am . I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina. If you need a pen pal feel free to message me.

Croatia here

I like them in the same way I like fictional anti heroes. The boys don't even seem real to me - it happened over a decade ago and I was a 12 year old kid. All their videos and writing were stylised and they got to choose how the outside world saw them. You're just viewing their propaganda.

Im guessing if they hadn't wiped their hard drives we would see the totally mundane and even gross side of them (yeah, porn!) - they were after all, on the whole just regular kids who disappeared into their own little fiction. They did what few people can do and lived out their dreams with little care for the consequences of their actions. Too bad their dreams were so dark

MalonsMilk wrote:

I like them in the same way I like fictional anti heroes. The boys don't even seem real to me - it happened over a decade ago and I was a 12 year old kid. All their videos and writing were stylised and they got to choose how the outside world saw them. You're just viewing their propaganda.

Im guessing if they hadn't wiped their hard drives we would see the totally mundane and even gross side of them (yeah, porn!) - they were after all, on the whole just regular kids who disappeared into their own little fiction. They did what few people can do and lived out their dreams with little care for the consequences of their actions. Too bad their dreams were so dark

who downloads porn?

-warrior wrote:

MalonsMilk wrote:

I like them in the same way I like fictional anti heroes. The boys don't even seem real to me - it happened over a decade ago and I was a 12 year old kid. All their videos and writing were stylised and they got to choose how the outside world saw them. You're just viewing their propaganda.

Im guessing if they hadn't wiped their hard drives we would see the totally mundane and even gross side of them (yeah, porn!) - they were after all, on the whole just regular kids who disappeared into their own little fiction. They did what few people can do and lived out their dreams with little care for the consequences of their actions. Too bad their dreams were so dark

who downloads porn?

Pekka Eric Auvinen, Tim Kretschmer, Matthew Murray and probably others.

InsaneIntruder wrote:

-warrior wrote:

MalonsMilk wrote:

I like them in the same way I like fictional anti heroes. The boys don't even seem real to me - it happened over a decade ago and I was a 12 year old kid. All their videos and writing were stylised and they got to choose how the outside world saw them. You're just viewing their propaganda.

Im guessing if they hadn't wiped their hard drives we would see the totally mundane and even gross side of them (yeah, porn!) - they were after all, on the whole just regular kids who disappeared into their own little fiction. They did what few people can do and lived out their dreams with little care for the consequences of their actions. Too bad their dreams were so dark

who downloads porn?

Pekka Eric Auvinen, Tim Kretschmer, Matthew Murray and probably others.

For some reason I feel that Dylan's hard drive would have had a ton of foot fetish type porn.

InsaneIntruder wrote:

-warrior wrote:

MalonsMilk wrote:

I like them in the same way I like fictional anti heroes. The boys don't even seem real to me - it happened over a decade ago and I was a 12 year old kid. All their videos and writing were stylised and they got to choose how the outside world saw them. You're just viewing their propaganda.

Im guessing if they hadn't wiped their hard drives we would see the totally mundane and even gross side of them (yeah, porn!) - they were after all, on the whole just regular kids who disappeared into their own little fiction. They did what few people can do and lived out their dreams with little care for the consequences of their actions. Too bad their dreams were so dark

who downloads porn?

Pekka Eric Auvinen, Tim Kretschmer, Matthew Murray and probably others.

what did pekka and mat have, i know about tim's femdom

-warrior wrote:

InsaneIntruder wrote:

-warrior wrote:

MalonsMilk wrote:

I like them in the same way I like fictional anti heroes. The boys don't even seem real to me - it happened over a decade ago and I was a 12 year old kid. All their videos and writing were stylised and they got to choose how the outside world saw them. You're just viewing their propaganda.

Im guessing if they hadn't wiped their hard drives we would see the totally mundane and even gross side of them (yeah, porn!) - they were after all, on the whole just regular kids who disappeared into their own little fiction. They did what few people can do and lived out their dreams with little care for the consequences of their actions. Too bad their dreams were so dark

who downloads porn?

Pekka Eric Auvinen, Tim Kretschmer, Matthew Murray and probably others.

what did pekka and mat have, i know about tim's femdom

Pekka had BDSM porn and Matthew Murray apparently had a ton of straight, gay and child porn.