What's something about a mass shooter only you (or very few people) know?

dyonqqr wrote:

Ander Breivik's favorite type of perfume was Chanel Platinum Égoïste. He also wrote that "all cultures have excellent dishes," ironic given some of his other views.

Anders also said that although he thought it was a bit gay, you should always wear makeup in photos to look your best.

Ian David Long prepared one (but not both) of his final tweets in a text file on his phone.
Armando Hernandez Jr. was too busy livestreaming his shooting on Snapchat to actually kill anyone. Kids these days.

Anthony Barbaro listened to the soundtrack of Jesus Christ Superstar while committing his attack.

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Anthony Barbaro listened to the soundtrack of Jesus Christ Superstar while committing his attack.

That's new to me, and actually took a second to register. Do you have any source or more information? I'd love to hear more.

dyonqqr wrote:

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Anthony Barbaro listened to the soundtrack of Jesus Christ Superstar while committing his attack.

That's new to me, and actually took a second to register. Do you have any source or more information? I'd love to hear more.

Sadly not, I only remember seeing this in some news article when I was looking at the case though it was probably because his attack took place in the schools holiday break.

Dylann Roof maintained exactly 88 friends on Facebook.
Ironically, the psychiatric assessment I learned this in was 88 pages long.

His grades that we know are as follows:
1st-5th grade - Unknown, but reportedly good
Middle school - Honor roll
76% - Family and Consumer Sciences, 6th grade
100% - French, 6th grade
71%-94% - Various 7th grade classes at Hand Middle School
50% - Algebra, 5th grade
Failing multiple subjects - 9th grade
Above average - Original PACT scores
Within average range, but lower than the mean - PACT scores by 8th grade

Some other odd facts about Dylann Roof:
His dominant sides are his right hand, right foot, and left eye.
He slept from 12-15 hours a night before his attack.
He claims to have pathological blushing, and during one documented incident, he refused to speak for a minute and a half despite the interviewer seeing no visible blushing.
He had a doctor measure the lengths of his legs. Despite being assured they were the same, he remained convinced they were different.
He expressed repeated concern over being stabbed "150 times," using that as the exact number both times.
He used to be obsessed with Bionicles.
He rarely asks about the health of his family but regularly asked about their cats.
He thinks he has a 30% chance of getting the death penalty and an 80% chance of a white uprising occuring and breaking him out of prison.
He thinks that after the race war, he might be made governor of South Carolina.
Despite his obsession with imagined thyroid issues, he's scared of starting medication for it because when the race war happens, he's scared he won't be able to get medication.
He expressed worry about going bald. His only suicidal comment was saying he would kill himself if he had to go to his trial bald.
He may have used to think aliens made chemtrails, if a comment his mother made during a conversation is taken literally.

Racist / ideological attacks typically have no interest for me, but Dylann's quite a character.

Some more shooting lengths:
Richard Farley (1988 ESL shooting): 5 hours
Michael O'Hearn (1971 Carlsbad Mid-High School shooting): Two hours
Yang Zhengming (2002 Number 34 Middle School shooting): Two hours
Breanna Long (2016 Dunbarton High School stabbing): 6 minutes
Alex Hribal (2014 Franklin Regional High School stabbing): 7 minutes
Randan Dakota Fontaine (La Loche shooting): 8 minutes.
Faisal Mohammad (2015 University of California, Merced stabbing): 15 minutes.
Pekka Eric Auvinen (Jokela High School shooting): 40 minutes

Some school-related hostage crisis lengths:
Randall Hofland (2008 Stockton Springs Elementary School hostage crisis): 30 minutes
Greg Dean Wright (2007 Las Plumas High School hostage crisis): Two hours (all but three of the hostages were released within an hour)
Samuel Hengel (2010 Marinette High School hostage crisis): Over 5 hours
14-year-old male student (2015 Philip Barbour High School hostage crisis): Two hours
Arturo Santato and Egidio Santato (1956 Terrazzano hostage crisis): Six hours
Yang Xinlong (2006 Luoying Primary School attack / hostage crisis): Several hours
Nicholas John Miller (2013 Pinewood Elementary School bus hostage crisis): 20 minutes
Li Zhongren (2009 Saipan shooting): 30 minutes

Pekka-Eric Auvinen achieved the best mark for History in his school, but couldn't achieve the top mark because he forgot to answer a question on a test.

Florian K. (2003 Coburg Shooting) passed around ammunition to other classmates, with some keeping the bullets as souvenirs.

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Florian K. (2003 Coburg Shooting) passed around ammunition to other classmates, with some keeping the bullets as souvenirs.

Interesting behavior. Was this before or during the shooting? I mean, if a shooter gave me a bullet it would feel weird to hang onto it but I definitely would.

The 2001 Osaka school massacre knifeman, Mamoru Takuma's name (Mamoru, or 守) means to watch, protect over, or defend.
Dylann Roof didn't like his room being dark and used a nightlight or left the TV on (I'm not certain if this was recently before the attack or not.)

dyonqqr wrote:

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Florian K. (2003 Coburg Shooting) passed around ammunition to other classmates, with some keeping the bullets as souvenirs.

Interesting behavior. Was this before or during the shooting? I mean, if a shooter gave me a bullet it would feel weird to hang onto it but I definitely would.

Before, as he also showed off the gun he used to commit the shooting to his classmates.

Kip kinkel played in a loop one of the soundtracks of the play "Romeo and Juliet" that he was rehearsing at his school after kill his parents. When the police found the corpses the music continued to be heard extremely loud.

Andrew Wurst won a door prize at the school dance he shot up. The teacher he killed was the one who announced it: this made Andrew uncomfortable.

margaflor wrote:

Kip kinkel played in a loop one of the soundtracks of the play "Romeo and Juliet" that he was rehearsing at his school after kill his parents. When the police found the corpses the music continued to be heard extremely loud.

It's audible (practically deafening) in the videos of the police entering his house. Haunting.

Randy Stair was friends with Plasmamasterdon, google him.
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Allegedly, the only time William Atchison had a girlfriend was in 2008, making him 12 years old at the time. He would often write about that time period in his life on various forums, claiming the only time he was happy was when he was a 12 year old.

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Guilherme taucci shared on his Facebook a campaign for the adoption of animals and donations for animals food

Found this out via reddit: Randy Stair was once featured in a Markiplier unboxing video, with him sending Mark a Slenderman shot glass and paperwork for a new phone.
The video in question:

Tennis player Andy Murray knew Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane School Shooting) when he was young and even attended his various 'boys clubs'.

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Tennis player Andy Murray knew Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane School Shooting) when he was young and even attended his various 'boys clubs'.

Did he ever mention seeing any sort of inappropriate behavior displayed by Thomas?

The person who signed Michael Ryan's final firearms amendment to his licence was PC Trevor Wainwright. Ryan would later use the guns he gained from that amendment to kill PC Wainwright's father and wound his mother.

Employer_Square wrote:

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Tennis player Andy Murray knew Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane School Shooting) when he was young and even attended his various 'boys clubs'.

Did he ever mention seeing any sort of inappropriate behavior displayed by Thomas?

No, at least not in the news article I found about it.

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Employer_Square wrote:

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Tennis player Andy Murray knew Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane School Shooting) when he was young and even attended his various 'boys clubs'.

Did he ever mention seeing any sort of inappropriate behavior displayed by Thomas?

No, at least not in the news article I found about it.

Ah ok thank you for responding.

When Kip Kinkel learned about Columbine he broke down fearing that he may have inspired it

Koschei wrote:

When Kip Kinkel learned about Columbine he broke down fearing that he may have inspired it

I don't think that Kip was mentioned by Eric or Dylan, with them only really mentioning the Jonesboro Shooters in terms of school shooters before them.

Koschei wrote:

When Kip Kinkel learned about Columbine he broke down fearing that he may have inspired it

Michael Carneal had a similar reaction when he heard about it if I recall correctly.

Bastian Bosse shot himself underneath a manga poster.

I am a bit surprised that few people know about this, but Guilherme Grilo (intellectual mentor of the massacre at the Raul Brazil school, Suzano) had a diary written in a "secret code" which was actually the Futhark alphabet.

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This is a Translation that i did from the original translation of the diary in portugese. Sorry if there are translation errors, the only image available is  of a very poor quality and is difficult to read.


11/21 2019 "Get nervous with your mouth, Poor thing"
11/25 "I prayed for her to come back I miss you a lot / I am so sorry for her lack
12/01 "First job. Too tired. I can't get her out of my head. I had a dream about her."
"A promise to be made today. Grace is over. I will see no more empathy."
03/14 "Today the world is behind my back My best friend made a massacre and committed suicide. Taucci I hope you have met our breeder/creator. Even my family thinks I'm involved. I won't trust anyone else"

Elliot Rodger liked a Youtube video of a playthrough of Conkers Bad Fur Day

Kinkeloukaitis wrote:

Éric Borel heart on the autopsy table was black... as if covered with ink. He had died barely 24 hours ago, he was in an advanced state of decomposition, while he was killing inside he was burning. He was in an episode of fever and acute delusional psychosis pushing his body to the limit of nearly 42 degrees.

So...he was sick during his killing spree?

Stinkfist wrote:

Kinkeloukaitis wrote:

Éric Borel heart on the autopsy table was black... as if covered with ink. He had died barely 24 hours ago, he was in an advanced state of decomposition, while he was killing inside he was burning. He was in an episode of fever and acute delusional psychosis pushing his body to the limit of nearly 42 degrees.

So...he was sick during his killing spree?

In principle, yes.

Aaron Alexis was on ground zero during 9/11 and helped injured civilians.

In 1972 Family Annihilator John List was proposed as a suspect to be airplane hijacker D.B Cooper as he committed his murders and disappeared just two weeks before hand. But when interviewed after his arrest in 1989 by FBI agents he claimed to have no involvement with the case and is no longer considered a suspect by the FBI.

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William Atchison left flowers on Nancy Lanza's Findagrave.com memorial, as well as Dave Sanders, Daniel Mauser and Jeff Weise.

Robert Steinhausers Parents said "Goodbye and Good luck" to him as he left for school on the day of the shooting, as they were under the impression that he hadn't been expelled and were unaware of his plans.

Not a mass shotter but Fabiano Kiper mai performed the "The Rorschach test" and the result was inconclusive as he could not correlate the stains with real objects or situations.

Carter Boyles (not a mass shooter) had liked videos of randy stair's PioneersProductions channel. There was a screenshot of it IIRC but I can't find it anywhere.

Bastian Bosse told his brother to leave the school before he committed his attack.

Some interesting facts about Robert Steinhäuser:
- He and some friends once worked on a film project called "Retaliation".

Some of the script: (The translation may not be very accurate):

However, video recordings show that they behaved in a "more age-appropriate manner" when actually filming the project.
- Steinhäuser had to repeat 11th grade because of poor grades
- He was part of a handball club from the age of 12 but left in September 2001, presumably due to the threat of fines for being absent during training sessions.
- During his school expulsion hearing, Robert gave no apology for his actions but said that "All allegations are correct" in relation to him faking a health insurance certificate.
- On the day of the attack, Steinhäuser returned to his house 3 times before going to the Gutenburg Gymnasium.

lognifiiskurk wrote:

Some interesting facts about Robert Steinhäuser:

- During his school expulsion hearing, Robert gave no apology for his actions but said that "All allegations are correct" in relation to him faking a health insurance certificate.
- On the day of the attack, Steinhäuser returned to his house 3 times before going to the Gutenburg Gymnasium.

Did not know these, thanks! Though I always thought that once Robert left his home, he left for good. Did not know he actually returned, let alone 3 times, any idea of why?

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Allen Ivanov wrote a rap song about the Mukilteo Shooting while in jail.

Charles Whitman once tried to call the Russian Secretary of State, while drunk, to say that he didn't like him.

There are several screenshots of Robert Dear's SexyAds account with the username blurred out. I once saw a screenshot of the username unblurred - I have tried several times to find it again and it seems to have disappeared from public view. The username is "rldqaz".
This seems to have been his universal username, with him using it for the following sites (not all confirmed):
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - BDSM forum
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - drinking/dating site
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - Cannabis forum (likely an archive of the original cannabis.com forum that he posted on)
He also probably had a myspace account that is no longer available based on this haveibeenpwned result (type in "rldqaz@gmail.com" into the text box): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Not technically about a mass shooter but in the immediate aftermath of the Virginia Tech Shooting the gunman was misidentified as a Chinese exchange student that supported the Second Amendment heavily.

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Employer_Square wrote:

Koschei wrote:

When Kip Kinkel learned about Columbine he broke down fearing that he may have inspired it

Michael Carneal had a similar reaction when he heard about it if I recall correctly.

Luke Woodham, too, expressed remorse for "starting it all off".

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I genuinely feel like these statements might be delusions of reference given the fact that each of these three were clearly mentally ill.

Pekka Eric Auvinen set two alarm clocks in the morning so that he would never be late to school

In the investigation into the Jokela shooting, Pekka's mother said that "(she) hoped that the same thing would not happen to Pekka" in the wake of the 2002 Myyrmanni bombing

Michael Ryan was once rejected by a girl after repeatedly asking her to go out with him in June 1987

Geddy Kramer did the cinnamon challenge to seem cool to his classmates.

Patrick Purdy tried to recruit his half-brother Albert Gulart for the shooting at Stockton Elementary School, but he refused, but they did discuss killing people with each other, and Gulart said to police he "probably would have went with him"

Steven Kazmierczak gave his sister a box of coal for christmas one year.