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TJ Lane was teased for wearing pink headphones 3 days before he committed the shooting at Chardon High School.

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Wow... i freakin made this topic in my old eytyteuh account or whatever tf it was called three years ago and ITS STILL POPPING LMAO. Three damn years have cycled through ... I was freakin in high school when i put this up ahahhaha i can only imagine that if i kept the account it would just be never ending notifications every damn day lol. I deleted it in like december 2018 or something. And fuck it, i'm gonna post to my own topic:

- a few hours before virginia tech shooting, numerous students could sense just how much colder that day was than any of the other spring days.

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Federico Guevara spoke a few days before the massacre with a member of the Legion holk group about what he was going to do, and asked if he should shout "Allhu Akbar" or "Marvel" at the time of the massacre.  also asked if when he died they were going to make edits of pumped up kicks about him.

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Santino William Legan, perpetrator of the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting, was placed into handcuffs after committing suicide. Can't be too careful, I guess.

Also, Cho, possibly accidently, included two videos of him reading the same part of his script on his multimedia manifesto CD to NBC.

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Santino William Legan, perpetrator of the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting, was placed into handcuffs after committing suicide. Can't be too careful, I guess.
Police often do that to any active killer, whether dead or alive. They did it with the San Bernadino shooters after they shot them to death. Like you said, it's just done as a precaution in case they're still somehow alive after being shot and they run off or hurt more people.

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Santino William Legan, perpetrator of the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting, was placed into handcuffs after committing suicide. Can't be too careful, I guess.
Police often do that to any active killer, whether dead or alive. They did it with the San Bernadino shooters after they shot them to death. Like you said, it's just done as a precaution in case they're still somehow alive after being shot and they run off or hurt more people.

It didn't really register that it was procedure until seeing more police reports and seeing James Huberty cuffed after death in the "77 Minutes" documentary, meaning it's been procedure for a while now.
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When police entered Kipland Kinkels house, they found the soundtrack to Romeo and Juliet (1996) blaring from his room. Kip also had a framed poster with the lyrics of the Marylin Manson song "The Reflecting God" on his bedroom wall.

During his vehicle rampage, Elliot Rodger targeted skateboarders because although he liked skateboarding, he didn't like others who were better than him at it.

Anders Breivik once bought his mother a vibrator after a breakup she had. He also had a nose job in his early twenties.

Matti Saari had pictures on his computer of his school that were taken in a similar way to those taken of Jokela High School by Pekka Eric Auvinen.


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Elliot Rodger had two open monster energy cans in his room.

Also, 200 of his 492 photos on his phone were selfies (similar to Dylann Roof, who took hundreds of pictures of himself to find even a few he liked due to body image delusions.)

On another note, Andrew Wurst had a dinner fork hidden in his sock. Seeing as he initially only planned on killing himself, I have no idea what was going through his head. Considering his many schizophrenic beliefs, it would not surprise me if he carried a fork in his sock daily.

Matti Saari carried petrol to school to start fires in addition to his shooting in lemonade bottles. Auvinen used mineral water bottles.


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Stephen Paddock had an Ammonium Nitrate car bomb which he didn't use.


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Martin Bryant used to sleep with his pet pig, until it pissed on him.
(Unrelated to the thread) Reminds me of a incident when I slept with my dog when it was a puppy in my bed. We slept together, until I woke the another day only to discover he pissed all over my bed and on me lmao.
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Vladislav Roslyakov only lost one tooth after shotting himself.

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That Adam Lanza liked e10.
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Also, Cho, possibly accidently, included two videos of him reading the same part of his script on his multimedia manifesto CD to NBC.

How did you find that out? WHich two videos were they?

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How did you find that out? WHich two videos were they?
I wish I knew, but the source is here, page 99.
"Intentionally or accidentally, he even provided two takes of reading one portion of his written diatribe."

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Steven Paddock bought razor blades, fake flowers, a vase and a Styrofoam ball on September 27, days before the deadliest US mass shooting.
Cho and his rubber ducks have some competion for strangest pre-attack purchases.

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Steven Paddock bought razor blades, fake flowers, a vase and a Styrofoam ball on September 27, days before the deadliest US mass shooting.
Cho and his rubber ducks have some competion for strangest pre-attack purchases.

lol one single styrofoam ball

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In high school, classmates made drawings caricatures of Saari in the classboard (into another things) to make fun of him.
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I know there's massive differences between the two, but theres some interesting similarities between Giuseppe Marco Fieschi (1835,) arguably the first mass shooter, and Jared Lee Loughner.
- Both were attacks based around planned political assasinations
- Both wounded their intended target in the head
- Both targets survived
- Neither intended a mass shooting initially but ended up committing one
- Neither commited suicide and were arrested.
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Kip kinkel and other inmates requested the adoption of a little cat in prison.

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Kip kinkel and other inmates requested the adoption of a little cat in prison.
Here's him somewhat recently with a picture of the cat they wanted.
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Here's a picture of him in 2018 with a picture of the cat they wanted.
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I thought that was him in 2011?

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Trey Sesler was obsessive in his research of previous mass murders, watching a Columbine documentary around 50 times, reciting facts about it to police for five minutes before they made him stop, and catalogued mass killers with a numerical rating score for “Brutalness of Attack,” “Effectiveness of Attack,” “Choice of Weapon,” “Number Killed," and possibly more. He also made a 12-page document / manifesto where he analyzed the strengths and weaknesses of former killers plans then "filled in the holes" to make them more foolproof.
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watching a Columbine documentary around 50 times
Probably it was Zero Hour, but that’s just a random guess.
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Álvaro Castillo traveled to Littleton with his mother and sister, visited Columbine School, Eric and Dylan's house, among others.
Another fact about him is that he once attempted suicide by putting his shotgun in his mouth. His father just came home and see him and after fighting to take away his shotgun, he stopped him.

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Not about a mass shooter, but a principal who was at Thurston High School during the shooting was also the principal at Springwater High School when a shooting that injured 10 students (from broken glass mind you) happened.

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Biswanath Halder was so hated by his colleagues that they created "HalderSucks.org," a site where they can insult and complain about him. Other shooters may have been teased more, but that case is certainly unique.

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James Holmes can recite the alphabet backwards

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One of Eric Harris's favorite ice cream flavors was of cookies.

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Nathaniel Berhow's Track & Field info is still online.
He did 800 Meters in 2:37.01 (scoring 15th place, 2019/03/07.)
He did 1600 Meters in 5:58.39 (scoring 35th place, 2019/03/14.)
He did 1600 Meters in 5:59.70 (scoring 21th place, 2019/03/21.)
He did 1600 Meters in 5:44.33 (scoring 28th place, 2019/04/11.)
There's also info for his 2018 season, but you have to sign in to get it, which I might do.

Oddly enough, three of those have a comment attached: "Asians rise up," "I did terrible on this one and all the kids laughed at me. Sad", and "For the grace of Allah and Wadina." I'm unsure how the site works, so I don't know if he made those comments or not. Definitely interested to know.

Edit: I think it actually was him, as the comments are credited to Nathaniel. This is news to me.
I registered an account, and his 2018 stats are:
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I was suprised to hear this about Lanza. Apologies if it's more well known than I thought.
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Apologies if this isn't entirely relevant, but on the topic of semi-rare information, here's a quick list of attackers with known LGBT affiliation:
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Ilnaz Galyaviev attempted suicide twice in custody (so far): once by biting at his wrists in a police car, and once by jumping onto his head (but landing on his lower back.)

Here's a collection of mass killers and the time their attacks took (this is compiled from all over the place, so apologies and thank you to the people I plagiarized):
Robert Hawkins:  around six minutes long.
Thomas Hamilton: around four to five minutes long.
Dmitry Vinogradov: 18 seconds
Jiverly Antares Wong: around a minute.
David Katz: 20-21 seconds.
Connor Stephen Betts: 32 seconds
Anis Amri: 9-10 seconds.
Keith Thomas Kinnunen: 6 seconds
Alexandre Bissonnette: 2 minutes.
Randy Stair: Around 4 minutes
Adam Lanza: Around 5 minutes
Dylann Roof: about 6 minutes.
Seung-Hui Cho: about 10/11 minutes.
James Holmes: about 7 minutes.
Wade Frankum: about 10 minutes.
Jeffrey Weise: about 10 minutes.
Howard Unruh: about 12 minutes.
George Hennard: about 12 minutes.
Patrick Sherrill: about 15 minutes
Arcan Cetin: One minute
Esteban Santiago-Ruiz: 1 and a half minutes
Columbine: 49 minutes
Karl Pierson: Two minutes
Nathaniel Berhow: Sixteen seconds
Jesse Osborne: Twelve seconds
Nikolas Cruz: 6 minutes
Colin Ferguson: 3 minutes
Patrick Purdy: around 2 minutes (unsure)
Richard Durn: 55 Seconds
Steven Kazmierczak: about six minutes
Woo Bum-Kon: around 5 hours and 10 minutes (over two days, 9:30 p.m. to 3:40 a.m.)
Jakrapanth Thomma: around 17 hours and 43 minutes (over two days, 3:30 pm to 09:13 am.)
Min Yingjun: a few minutes
Alex Hribal: Less than five minutes
Gang Lu: Twelve minutes
John Zawahri (2013 Santa Monica shooting): 13 minutes
Andrew Golden and Mitchell Johnson: a few minutes
Anders Behring Breivik: 1 hour and twelve minutes of shooting on Utøya.
Anthony Barbaro: 2 hours (or 90 minutes, according to another source.)
Michael Andrew Clark: 90 minutes
Michael Slobodian: 5 minutes
Jeong Sang-jin: Around 1 hour and 5 minutes, 8:15 a.m.-9:20 a.m. (KST).
Tomohiro Katō: 3 minutes


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In the letters of Nikolas Cruz's in prision with his girlfriend about having children, he mentioned that he wanted to call his sons "Kalashnikov", "Makarov" and "Remington", all of them are gun references

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I'll update this as I discover more, but here's some killers that made music:
Adam Lanza played the saxophone in elementary / middle school.
Connor Betts was a member of Menstrual Munchies (example song.)
Mitchell Johnson sang in choir for elderly residents.
Andrew Golden played trumpet in the school band.
Wade Michael Page (2012 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting) was a member of End Apathy.
Jeffrey Weise apparently played in a band (I'm having difficulty finding more information.)
Anthony "T.J." Solomon wrote rap lyrics (ex. "Laughin' at my victims as they drop to their knees. Beggin' for their life, screamin', 'please, Dear God, don't let this crooked motherfucker murder me.'")
Alvaro Castillo did not formally make music but sang at points in his "basement tapes."
Scott Beierle (2018 Tallahassee shooting) made music.
Charles Whitman played piano quite well as a child.
Michael Andrew Clark played the saxophone.

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Alvaro Castillo planned his suicide before the shooting. It was supposed to occur on April 20th 2006, with a shotgun (explicitly because Eric used one - before he learned this, Alvaro was going to use a handgun,) at the exact time of day Eric died. He recorded five suicide tapes because Eric and Dylan did, and wanted to die in a military outfit to imitiate a movie.

Also, he slept with his rifle for comfort like a teddy bear. Here's two quotes from him:
“Guns are just like toys and lovers for me. I adore them. They are fun to play with. I love my weapons.”
“My weapons are my lovers. I spend a lot of time with them and I hope they will not leave me. I am always faithful to them.”


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Some facts about guilherme taucci:
Guilherme had a dog named "princesa" who he petted every time he came home. His grandfather says his dog still misses him to this day.

Guilherme's mother says that after the attack she found a bag with 5 boxes of white BIS chocolate consumed by Guilherme.
Guilherme liked the cold and he wanted to live in Canada.
Guilherme sometimes went to pick up his little sisters at school.

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Luke Helder (Midwest Pipe Bomber) was in a 3 piece grunge band called 'Apathy'. They even recorded a CD called 'Sacks of People'.
Artyom Anoufriev and Nikita Lytkin (Academy Maniacs) also formed two bands called 'Evil Dwarfs' and 'Dismembered Pugachova'. The songs of these bands were mostly about violence and were purposely offensive.

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The police had to take Alvaro Castillo's fingerprints twice because he was shaking so bad.
Jared Loughner got a B in art at college.
Also, I just learned about Loughner's poem. Sorry if it's common knowledge.
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Multiple mass attackers had an odd interest / usage of sunglasses / black glasses:
Dylan Klebold: Wore sunglasses around excessively in the months before the massacre, Sue now thinks he was "hiding behind them."
Adam Lanza: Wore wraparound black glasses to shield himself from direct sunlight.
Bastian Bosse: Wore them around, was known as the matrix man at school
Anton Lundin Pettersson: "When he was 4 years old, he got a pair of sunglasses which he wore all the time, even indoors."

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Eric Harris scored 74% on the Marine Enlistment Screening Test
He also made $7.25 an hour at Blackjacks Pizza
Eric broke his nose twice in his life, once when he was younger and again during the shooting.

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Brenton Tarrant's shooting cost NZ$60,000 (approximately $42,400 USD.)
Stephen Paddock's firearms and gun-related purchases were approximately $95,000, in addition to his tickets for the hotel room.
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An online friend that Breivik met years ago, fell in love with him after his arrest and started sending him letters, etc. One of the dark blue ties that Breivik wore at his trial was a gift from her.

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In Kimveer Gill's CD player police found a disc entitled "Shooting sprees ain't no fun without Ozzy and friends LOL"

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Ander Breivik's favorite type of perfume was Chanel Platinum Égoïste. He also wrote that "all cultures have excellent dishes," ironic given some of his other views.
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