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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:27 pm | |
| Apparently someone managed to hack Vlad's social network accounts. If the info is true he complained about having no friends and wanting to die. He also warned that something would happen and bragged about having guns and shooting animals.
Here are two Google translated articles, again I don't know how reliable these websites are:
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:44 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:56 pm | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- New pic
Thanks! |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:59 pm | |
| From September he was texting a girl from his college, it seems they even met several times. The day before it happened he had asked her to meet him not in the hallway where the shooting took place but in a different part of the building. To let her live or smth - Here is the girl:
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:28 am | |
| - Neah wrote:
- Apparently someone managed to hack Vlad's social network accounts. If the info is true he complained about having no friends and wanting to die. He also warned that something would happen and bragged about having guns and shooting animals.
If this happened in the West I'd be questioning why people would be missing these really obvious red flags, but considering that this happened in Russia, where this kind of thing rarely happens... _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:05 am | |
| - QuestionMark wrote:
- Neah wrote:
- Apparently someone managed to hack Vlad's social network accounts. If the info is true he complained about having no friends and wanting to die. He also warned that something would happen and bragged about having guns and shooting animals.
If this happened in the West I'd be questioning why people would be missing these really obvious red flags, but considering that this happened in Russia, where this kind of thing rarely happens... I think it could also be the opposite: in the US so many people have guns that you don't know when people are joking, bragging or are serious. In countries where there are no guns people are not used to this kind of threats, so they may take it more seriously. I think people start really worrying when they know the boy has guns. Because it is not something "normal" for a teenager, especially if he posts pictures of it. But I think most people think that people usually don't have guns so it is probably BB guns. I don't know if people were really aware that Vladislav had guns. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:16 pm | |
| Vlad appears to be a soulless murderer who did it just because he could and wanted to leave a strong impression after he passes away. He mentions that he lacks empathy in one of his talks. Thing is he was really obsessed with Columbine and serial killers of sorts, and did his best to straight up copycat Columbine in Russia. He talked about Columbine with his fellows, used nickname voDKa at some point, and obviously cosplayed Reb in his outfit during attack with black jeans, military boots and white shirt with a black letters print on it. The print on his shirt translateas as HATRED, but I don't think there is any deep meaning behind it. His suicide photo in library looks a lot like Eric's one. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:48 am | |
| Sorry for my english people. In 2018 there were several cases in Russia except for Vlad, when teenagers attacked classmates and teachers, and each time there was a connection with Columbine. But these attempts were pitiful. Another thing is Vlad, you understand. He already has a fan club, I saw when I was looking for at least something about Columbine in VK. Here it is necessary to clarify: many Russian Columbine groups were banned, and all BT materials were also removed...
Soon I will bring here the latest news, from which he fired and something else. _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:25 am | |
| After receiving a weapon permit, Vlad stole money from his grandmother and bought gun (write it's 12 calibers Hatsan Escort AimGuard, experts?) and 150 bullets. About the bullets it is known that this is a hunting buckshot (canister) of 5.6 mm with a high content of gunpowder. Passing the commissions and all the references cost him about 584$.
The hacker published Roslyakov's chats with friends. Vlad wrote that he didn't want to enter the Polytechnic College, but his parents decided everything for him. He also complained that no one understood him, and sometimes said that he wanted to commit suicide, but before that “arrange a great graduation for himself”. Roslyakov didn't write that he was being bullied in college, but he mentioned that "tyranny" reigns there. What this means, he didn't explain.
A friend of Roslyakov says that the guy was very calm and not aggressive. His passion was shooting and biographies of famous murders. By the way, about the predilection for stories about maniacs Vlad told all his friends, trying to "infect" a hobby. This friend also says that Roslyakov got on well with his mother, although she is really a sectarian. They lived poorly. By the way, it is unknown where his mother is now.
There is silence in the media... _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- After receiving a weapon permit, Vlad stole money from his grandmother and bought gun (write it's 12 calibers Hatsan Escort AimGuard, experts?) and 150 bullets. About the bullets it is known that this is a hunting buckshot (canister) of 5.6 mm with a high content of gunpowder.
Passing the commissions and all the references cost him about 584$.
The hacker published Roslyakov's chats with friends. Vlad wrote that he didn't want to enter the Polytechnic College, but his parents decided everything for him. He also complained that no one understood him, and sometimes said that he wanted to commit suicide, but before that “arrange a great graduation for himself”. Roslyakov didn't write that he was being bullied in college, but he mentioned that "tyranny" reigns there. What this means, he didn't explain.
A friend of Roslyakov says that the guy was very calm and not aggressive. His passion was shooting and biographies of famous murders. By the way, about the predilection for stories about maniacs Vlad told all his friends, trying to "infect" a hobby. This friend also says that Roslyakov got on well with his mother, although she is really a sectarian. They lived poorly. By the way, it is unknown where his mother is now.
There is silence in the media... Last I read his mother had tried to commit suicide after she realized that Vlad was responsible for the attack. Then it has been floating around that she may have been institutionalized after having a mental breakdown. But I have yet to find anything that proves or disproves this. As you said there is a media blackout concerning the attack, so nothing new is making its way out. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:16 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Sorry for my english people.
In 2018 there were several cases in Russia except for Vlad, when teenagers attacked classmates and teachers, and each time there was a connection with Columbine. But these attempts were pitiful. Another thing is Vlad, you understand. He already has a fan club, I saw when I was looking for at least something about Columbine in VK. Here it is necessary to clarify: many Russian Columbine groups were banned, and all BT materials were also removed...
Soon I will bring here the latest news, from which he fired and something else. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Welcome to the forum, as I see you are new! Also your English is fine, perfectly understandable. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:27 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Sorry for my english people.
In 2018 there were several cases in Russia except for Vlad, when teenagers attacked classmates and teachers, and each time there was a connection with Columbine. But these attempts were pitiful. Another thing is Vlad, you understand. He already has a fan club, I saw when I was looking for at least something about Columbine in VK. Here it is necessary to clarify: many Russian Columbine groups were banned, and all BT materials were also removed...
Soon I will bring here the latest news, from which he fired and something else.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Welcome to the forum, as I see you are new! Also your English is fine, perfectly understandable. Heh, thanks! I'm very happy to be here. I still don't really understand how to use everything here, but I'll figure it out. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:45 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Sorry for my english people.
In 2018 there were several cases in Russia except for Vlad, when teenagers attacked classmates and teachers, and each time there was a connection with Columbine. But these attempts were pitiful. Another thing is Vlad, you understand. He already has a fan club, I saw when I was looking for at least something about Columbine in VK. Here it is necessary to clarify: many Russian Columbine groups were banned, and all BT materials were also removed...
Soon I will bring here the latest news, from which he fired and something else.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Welcome to the forum, as I see you are new! Also your English is fine, perfectly understandable. Heh, thanks! I'm very happy to be here. I still don't really understand how to use everything here, but I'll figure it out. If you have any questions just ask me or one of the other mods. We'd be happy to help. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:51 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Sorry for my english people.
In 2018 there were several cases in Russia except for Vlad, when teenagers attacked classmates and teachers, and each time there was a connection with Columbine. But these attempts were pitiful. Another thing is Vlad, you understand. He already has a fan club, I saw when I was looking for at least something about Columbine in VK. Here it is necessary to clarify: many Russian Columbine groups were banned, and all BT materials were also removed...
Soon I will bring here the latest news, from which he fired and something else.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Welcome to the forum, as I see you are new! Also your English is fine, perfectly understandable. Heh, thanks! I'm very happy to be here. I still don't really understand how to use everything here, but I'll figure it out. If you have any questions just ask me or one of the other mods. We'd be happy to help. This is true! Welcome _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:16 am | |
| Okay Want a fun fact? The media was forbidden to compare Kerch and Columbine, but all the same, the headlines on the network glittered: "Wow, look, Vlad looks like Eric Harris!" It’s impossible to calculate how many people learned about Columbine after that. That's how I got here. And now it's not about fun. Found: Roslyakov's mother in the hospital, she has a heart attack . And so far no one has buried Vlad... _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:43 am | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:32 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][/quote]Also that is very sad, his poor mother. Any knowledge on Vlad's father or other family members? [/quote] Well, I googled and found out that Vlad's father is disabled and alcoholic But no one had seen his father for a long time, that’s bad luck! Also, write that he is in a mental hospital, but I don't know, can we trust it? According to the grandmother, Vlad's parents have long been divorced. Only Vlad's grandmother speacks to the press. She doesn't know where Vlad's mother is. She thinks that her grandson didn't have enough attention. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:35 am | |
| Teach me to quote... _________________ Sun is hiding in his heart, so as not to burn all the Earth.
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:46 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Teach me to quote...
Ok it is fairly simple. If you want to quote someone in a response post , hit the quote tab on their post and make sure that what you type is AFTER the last [/quote] that shows. You can check to see if it's right by doing a Preview before finally posting. Hope this helps, if you still need help tag me again!
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:53 am | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:18 am | |
| - Quote :
- Well, I googled and found out that Vlad's father is disabled and alcoholic scratch But no one had seen his father for a long time, that’s bad luck! Also, write that he is in a mental hospital, but I don't know, can we trust it? According to the grandmother, Vlad's parents have long been divorced. Only Vlad's grandmother speacks to the press. She doesn't know where Vlad's mother is. Neutral She thinks that her grandson didn't have enough attention.
That’s true. Vlad had been living without father for 8 years. His grandmother will soon get the money people from Vlad’s fan group have gathered. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:21 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- His grandmother will soon get the money people from Vlad’s fan group have gathered.
Like from a gofundme type thing? |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 am | |
| Let's talk about the other victims, by the way. Someone asked: if the bomb caused someone harm? Yes, it did. Doctors removed bolts, nuts, etc. from people. The words of those who survived (translate): “And our guys helped very actively. I didn’t even think that we had such a solid people. All the boys, even the wounded, helped other guys, girls. They were limping and taking out of the building. They made bandaging, they were tearing, someone even took off their socks to pull their veins. I remember the cries and pleas for help. The girl shouted one: “I don’t want to die!” It's very scary, I can't sleep the second night." "We climbed to the second floor, everyone was shocked, didn't understand what was happening. Someone said: "gas" - everyone thought that the war. Heard a couple more small explosions and shots. We quickly went down to the courtyard, saw the wounded and the dead. It was hard, we were all in a panic, we ran out into the courtyard. There I saw a girl, she lost consciousness after the bangs. Tried to drag her to a safe place. We didn't know anyone, didn't talk much, we just rushed to help the wounded. After that, I don’t know what will happen to me, it’s hard to come here. Many want to pick up documents and leave college. Many of us have not yet decided, they say that there will be transfers to different colleges of Kerch." The testimony of the person who helped the victims: "On the first floor there were those who were injured by the bang, and on the second floor there were shot bodies. We went to college with a friend, there were also a police officer, EMERCOM employees, military... Now I understand that when we went and looked for people, we could have gotten the bullet ourselves. It was not clear what happened. We saw bullet marks only on the second floor." For me it's a holiday - to read about how people helped each other, no matter what. ... I wonder who even got to the library first if there were any damage, and took a photo and video of Vlad's corpse? | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:28 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Yes, I remembered this when I wrote, but I don't follow Vlad's fans, so I was not sure that the money had reached. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:45 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Let's talk about the other victims, by the way.
Someone asked: if the bomb caused someone harm? Yes, it did. Doctors removed bolts, nuts, etc. from people.
The words of those who survived (translate): “And our guys helped very actively. I didn’t even think that we had such a solid people. All the boys, even the wounded, helped other guys, girls. They were limping and taking out of the building. They made bandaging, they were tearing, someone even took off their socks to pull their veins. I remember the cries and pleas for help. The girl shouted one: “I don’t want to die!” It's very scary, I can't sleep the second night."
"We climbed to the second floor, everyone was shocked, didn't understand what was happening. Someone said: "gas" - everyone thought that the war. Heard a couple more small explosions and shots. We quickly went down to the courtyard, saw the wounded and the dead. It was hard, we were all in a panic, we ran out into the courtyard. There I saw a girl, she lost consciousness after the bangs. Tried to drag her to a safe place. We didn't know anyone, didn't talk much, we just rushed to help the wounded. After that, I don’t know what will happen to me, it’s hard to come here. Many want to pick up documents and leave college. Many of us have not yet decided, they say that there will be transfers to different colleges of Kerch."
The testimony of the person who helped the victims: "On the first floor there were those who were injured by the bang, and on the second floor there were shot bodies. We went to college with a friend, there were also a police officer, EMERCOM employees, military... Now I understand that when we went and looked for people, we could have gotten the bullet ourselves. It was not clear what happened. We saw bullet marks only on the second floor."
For me it's a holiday - to read about how people helped each other, no matter what. ... I wonder who even got to the library first if there were any damage, and took a photo and video of Vlad's corpse? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I am sure everyone was completely confused and had no idea what was truly happening, as school shooter incidents aren't very common over there. The first reports that were released were saying that it was a terrorist attack. Then they changed it after more info was found. In your opinion has there been anything released by the media that is untrue? Also are they still searching for other people that may have been involved? |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:56 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]I’m not 100% sure, I’ve seen an article regarding that. All who wished were putting money in some girl’s bank account. Then this girl went with his gran to the post office to get the money but the police met them and the girl was interrogated. Everything was ok with her so his gran will go to the post office as soon as she can accompanied by the police members. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:59 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
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I’m not 100% sure, I’ve seen an article regarding that. All who wished were putting money in some girl’s bank account. Then this girl went with his gran to the post office to get the money but the police met them and the girl was interrogated. Everything was ok with her so his gran will go to the post office as soon as she can accompanied by the police members.
Do you know if this money was raised to replace the money his supposedly took from his Gran? Or maybe to help pay for his burial, etc? |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:04 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Probably for his burial. Btw the info that he took the money from her wasn’t proved. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:16 pm | |
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Probably for his burial. Btw the info that he took the money from her wasn’t proved. Thank you for answering my questions! |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:38 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- In your opinion has there been anything released by the media that is untrue? Also are they still searching for other people that may have been involved?
Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm* Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar). | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:46 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Yw I speak Russian so if there’s something else you want to know I can try to research. If there’s anything new I will post it here | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:52 pm | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar). OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it! I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet?
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:42 pm | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- Roslyakov didn't write that he was being bullied in college, but he mentioned that "tyranny" reigns there. What this means, he didn't explain.
If I had to make an educated guess, I'm gonna say he didn't like getting told what to do by teachers/professors or having to do required coursework. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:15 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Another pic of Vlad. Has anyone else noticed in all the pics where he is older, he is almost never looking at the camera? He is either looking away, down, or covering his face. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:44 pm | |
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Another pic of Vlad. Has anyone else noticed in all the pics where he is older, he is almost never looking at the camera? He is either looking away, down, or covering his face. I can think of two reasons for that. 1. He's not the focus of the photographs, so naturally he wouldn't be looking at the camera. 2. He really is that miserable and shy that he wants to avoid people's attention. _________________ "My guns are the only things that haven't stabbed me in the back." -Kip Kinkel
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:40 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar).
OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it!
I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet? I'll try to find info about this guy, but now I don't know. But I got notes about the weirdness from massacre video, and I'm going to delve into it. This is the most mysterious part of the shooting. UPD: I found a reconstruction of how Vlad walked. Very interesting, but because of the site policy I can't give a link. They say that video from surveillance cameras was obtained illegally; for this, one editor-in-chief was fired from TV. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:33 am | |
| Tge guy he was talking to is their lab technician, he always shakes hands like that with everyone so there’s nothing suspicious in that. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:40 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]The man sitting in from of him is also the one he killed. I think he didn’t like to be photographed as he destroyed all his photos before the shooting He also wrote his classmate that he was ugly on his photos. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:40 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- Tge guy he was talking to is their lab technician, he always shakes hands like that with everyone so there’s nothing suspicious in that.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Thanks for clearing that up, as there were reports of this person possibly being involved with or having prior knowledge of the attack. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:08 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- The man sitting in from of him is also the one he killed.
I think he didn’t like to be photographed as he destroyed all his photos before the shooting He also wrote his classmate that he was ugly on his photos. That is very interesting. Because in my honest opinion, he wasn't unattractive in the least. BUT that just goes to show you how people can sometimes view themselves compared to how others possibly see them. Also sad that he decided to take so many innocent lives and devastated countless more. |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:37 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar).
OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it!
I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet? I'll try to find info about this guy, but now I don't know. But I got notes about the weirdness from massacre video, and I'm going to delve into it. This is the most mysterious part of the shooting.
UPD: I found a reconstruction of how Vlad walked. Very interesting, but because of the site policy I can't give a link. They say that video from surveillance cameras was obtained illegally; for this, one editor-in-chief was fired from TV. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I see you got the hang of quoting! |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:53 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- LevtinAlex wrote:
- Thanks for the lesson, mod, but I'm a jeasly student *facepalm*
Yes, we have very few such crimes. Many call Vlad a terrorist, many are looking for the background of this massacre. Some don't believe that Vlad was alone. I’m sure that they continue to check his surroundings, because people need that to say. Find out the details, where it’s from, where’s the other, etc. It’s time to wait before the fog clears up... There’s talk about the reasons, about getting a weapon, but you understand - that it’s an exotic crime. Columbine's experience is constantly remembered. I have some fear that 4/20/19 will be rich in copycats around the world (see my avatar).
OR I'm a lousy teacher! You will get the hang of it!
I know there is security footage of Vlad talking and possibly even handing something to a guy inside the collage shortly before he started shooting. DO you know if that person has been located and questioned yet? I'll try to find info about this guy, but now I don't know. But I got notes about the weirdness from massacre video, and I'm going to delve into it. This is the most mysterious part of the shooting.
UPD: I found a reconstruction of how Vlad walked. Very interesting, but because of the site policy I can't give a link. They say that video from surveillance cameras was obtained illegally; for this, one editor-in-chief was fired from TV.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I see you got the hang of quoting! It remains for me to learn to reduce these quotes | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:02 am | |
| - LevtinAlex wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I see you got the hang of quoting!
It remains for me to learn to reduce these quotes Yeah that can be a little tricky, if you remove the wrong [/quote] it messing everything up! Just keep playing around with a post in the Preview until it looks the way you want it! If you need any help just yell! |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:58 am | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:28 am | |
| Found out Vlad’s favorite movies were the same as E&D’s (lost highway, pulp fiction, nbk). He was also listening to dark depressing music. | |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:31 am | |
| - lockerouch wrote:
- Found out Vlad’s favorite movies were the same as E&D’s (lost highway, pulp fiction, nbk).
He was also listening to dark depressing music. I have to wonder if he truly liked those movies, or only said he did because Eric and Dylan had liked them? |
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| Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:45 am | |
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- That is very interesting. Because in my honest opinion, he wasn't unattractive in the least. BUT that just goes to show you how people can sometimes view themselves compared to how others possibly see them.
Yes, but in his messages he told that he was aware some girls liked him but he avoided them. I guess maybe he thought in real life he looked better. There may be even some narcissistic complex involved He clearly though he was not like anyone else and wanted to get attention. He was also a member of racial anthropology group in social network where people discuss white supremacy. | |
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