Are they really dead?

I've been wondering for a while now if Eric and Dylan are really dead. I know this May sounds crazy to some...but I try to think of all possibilities. I mean, I have heard on several occasions, including the 11k report that there were many shooters. What if they put it all on Eric and Dylan and had them stage their death? I get it, we have a picture of them lying dead on the library floor...autopsy reports that are pretty inaccurate. However, part of me still wonders. Anyone else? Or am I just crazy?

Or...were they killed by the other shooters who may have somehow escaped? The positioning of their dead bodies is very odd...

Worst thread ever

x5000x That's childish. Isn't this a forum where we bring thoughts, questions and ideas to people with the same interest?? Stop being so close minded and think about this. I will be sharing a link to help my argument.

Unfortunately I cannot upload the link. It's on YouTube, video is called "the Opperman report 2-10-15 with guest William Zabel, a very well known Truther who did more research than anyone on this board I'm sure. Take the time to listen to it before you slam my post. I try to find truth not believe in mumbo-jumbo you overhear or read. Thanks.

This is a different theory of Columbine:


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But, trust me, Eric/Dylan are REALLY dead

Thank you sororityalpha! Appreciate you sharing the link. Thoughts?

TaylorsMom wrote:

Or...were they killed by the other shooters who may have somehow escaped?  The positioning of their dead bodies is very odd...

Shit, it's almost like LE moved their bodies to check for bombs...

sororityalpha wrote:

This is a different theory of Columbine:


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But, trust me, Eric/Dylan are REALLY dead

Given all the evidence surrounding the massacre, it's a fact they're dead.

No authorities are going to let mass murderers roam the streets.

Ivan wrote:

No authorities are going to let mass murderers roam the streets

Except for the ones that they have not caught yet hehe

sororityalpha wrote:

Ivan wrote:

No authorities are going to let mass murderers roam the streets

Except for the ones that they have not caught yet hehe

Yeah that's true.

nah, there's no way

waaaaaay to much evidence against, plus what would be the motive?

I totally agree

I can't believe people are still into these Columbine conspiracy theories.

It seems like whenever there is a major event like a mass shooting etc that people seem to come up with conspiracy theories related to them.

TaylorsMom wrote:

x5000x That's childish. Isn't this a forum where we bring thoughts, questions and ideas to people with the same interest??  Stop being so close minded and think about this. I will be sharing a link to help my argument.

Because this kind of stuff pollutes the forum. We have some good threads with actual researched insight and theories here. The additional shooters myth has been challenged and essentially debunkt many times over the years. Also the theory you posted just sounds stupid and reaching.

Well thanks for making me feel stupid

I accept that they aren't alive. I get it, I've been researching this for many, many years. I just wanted to hear other peoples thoughts, my bad. In regards to the other shooters, that's not conspiracy. That's a fact.

TaylorsMom wrote:

In regards to the other shooters, that's not conspiracy. That's a fact.

Fact
"a thing that is known or proved to be true"

- Awaiting proof.

Conspiracy theories are what ruined "Echoes of Columbine" forum and CRTF.

sororityalpha wrote:

This is a different theory of Columbine:


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But, trust me, Eric/Dylan are REALLY dead

Listening to this drivel really hurt my brain. Not because I believe any of it for a moment, but because there are people out there who spend their time trying to spread this type of nonsense. He said off duty and on duty cops were involved in the shooting...*yawn*. Also doesn't provide any hard evidence other than "I heard from so and so" or "this guys was in a barbershop and saw Harris and Klebold after the shooting". Fuck me.

Everyone is entitled to have their opinions. Who says you have all the answers and all the proof x5000x? What makes you so special? Because you heard "facts" from the people "involved"? Everyone is a conspiracy theorist. Everyone believes what they believe...what they've been shown as hard "facts". Who here knows all the TRUE facts of this massacre? I'd love to talk to them and meet them!! The only people who know the actual truth are those directly involved. Everything else is hearsay. Sorry but it's true.

On the other hand I enjoy researching Columbine and find other peoples thoughts fascinating. Maybe because I'm not close-minded and can appreciate other peoples thoughts and beliefs. I don't think bashing people on this forum is what it's for, your opinion on this subject has been duly noted.

There's this guy on youtube with a series of videos claiming Columbine was a hoax. I watched one a while ago but couldn't get through it because the inaccuracies and delusion it possessed was through the roof. I didn't have the energy at the time to go off on him in the comment section.

Yesterday, I saw a comment from him on a Columbine related video saying there was no fire in the cafeteria because there was no burn marks on the floor and no one saw it. When I told him that was false, he immediately responded and denied it even more. So then I kinda went off on him and including links to photos of the burn marks on the cafeteria floor with the melted chairs. He still hasn't replied to that.

It just blows my mind that people actually believe this nut job.

Right. I am in no way saying anyone is right here. I don't believe everything I hear. Yes, I believe all the events happened as they say...all I'm saying is no one really knows everything. Yes, fires were started, especially in the cafeteria. It's right on the surveillance video. Anyone who denies that doesn't know much about Columbine!

TaylorsMom wrote:

Everyone is entitled to have their opinions. Who says you have all the answers and all the proof x5000x?  What makes you so special?  Because you heard "facts" from the people "involved"?  Everyone is a conspiracy theorist. Everyone believes what they believe...what they've been shown as hard "facts". Who here knows all the TRUE facts of this massacre?  I'd love to talk to them and meet them!!  The only people who know the actual truth are those directly involved. Everything else is hearsay. Sorry but it's true.

On the other hand I enjoy researching Columbine and find other peoples thoughts fascinating. Maybe because I'm not close-minded and can appreciate other peoples thoughts and beliefs. I don't think bashing people on this forum is what it's for, your opinion on this subject has been duly noted.

But you said "In regards to the other shooters, that's not conspiracy. That's a fact." but couldn't back the "fact" up. That's not close mindedness, that's just being logical. Wasn't bashing you, just saying that the conspiracy crap is just that: crap.

With the shooters, I read in the 11k report that several witnesses stated there were more then 2 and they named them. I'm just going by the official report.

TaylorsMom wrote:

With the shooters, I read in the 11k report that several witnesses stated there were more then 2 and they named them. I'm just going by the official report.

Everyone was confused in the situation. These aren't facts, they're confused witness reports. The police/fbi interviewed anyone who was named and made zero arrests.

To the multiple shooters theorists: lack of evidence isn't evidence, and witness reports are not reliable. We know that from the whole 'do you believe in god' debarkle.

As for conspircay theories, every major shooting or crime comes with those, because some people just will not and cannot accept a truth that they don't want to hear.

And yes people are entitled to their opinions, but we aren't talking about opinions on the shooting here, we are are talking about the hard facts of what actually happened.

^^^

Thank you Eli

Why are we even giving a topic like this attention?
We all know what really happened...

No... They are 100% still alive... They are now known as 2 famous celebrities.... Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

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It's on the internet so it HAS to be true.

Eric and Dylan are dead, but here's another question.

Would it have been possible for Eric and Dylan to survive the shooting by going in wearing masks, taking off the masks in the bathrooms, and fleeing the school with their hands up?

Can you construct a hypothetical scenario in which it would have been possible for them to get away with it?

There were reports that Law Enforcement were concerned that they changed their clothes and could be escaping with other students - of course, that did not happen.


But that could have been one possibility for them to get out of there.

lasttrain wrote:

Eric and Dylan are dead, but here's another question.

Would it have been possible for Eric and Dylan to survive the shooting by going in wearing masks, taking off the masks in the bathrooms, and fleeing the school with their hands up?

Can you construct a hypothetical scenario in which it would have been possible for them to get away with it?

Theres a very small chance, I mean they would be covered in blood from everybody unless they changed clothes too, even so there would be some sort of disarray going on.

I also don't think they would ever do that, Eric was set on dying that day.

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

They're alive! I saw them in a barbershop in Atlanta last week

sororityalpha wrote:

There were reports that Law Enforcement were concerned that they changed their clothes and could be escaping with other students - of course, that did not happen.


But that could have been one possibility for them to get out of there.

Is it possible to construct a hypothetical scenario in which they get away with it?

Eric and Dylan leave clothes, guns, gloves, and masks in their lockers. They go to school normally. During lunch they retrieve their bags, go to the bathroom, change, and carry out the shooting, avoiding the cafeteria, where there is a camera.

A few minutes later, they go back in the bathroom, change, light the old clothes, masks, etc. on fire, and then run out of separate entrances with their hands up. Immediately they go home, shower, bleach, etc.

Does that work?

They'd leave behind DNA evidence linking them to the crime..

lasttrain wrote:

Eric and Dylan are dead, but here's another question.

Would it have been possible for Eric and Dylan to survive the shooting by going in wearing masks, taking off the masks in the bathrooms, and fleeing the school with their hands up?

Can you construct a hypothetical scenario in which it would have been possible for them to get away with it?

I've actually spent a good deal of time thinking about this kind of scenario. They could have probably avoided capture for the first few days, but once the police started the investigation they would have been caught quickly. Their fingerprints were all over the guns and bombs. When you get arrested your prints are taken and filed away for situations just like this. The January arrest would mean that they were in the JeffCo system. Even if they wiped everything clean Robyn would still be able to recognize the guns she helped them buy. Plus Eric was known for building pipe bombs too. There was zero chance of escape and the boys knew that.

WendlaBergman wrote:

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

Buckley's Angel!!!

FlyerFan wrote:

WendlaBergman wrote:

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

Buckley's Angel!!!

They were 18 and barley were able to pull off NBK without getting caught. So many close calls. I'd doubt they'd be able to stay on the run for more then a few hours before they got caught if such scenario were to happen.

Are they really dead?
Yes
End of discussion

slippy123 wrote:

FlyerFan wrote:

WendlaBergman wrote:

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

Buckley's Angel!!!

They were 18 and barley were able to pull off NBK without getting caught. So many close calls. I'd doubt they'd be able to stay on the run for more then a few hours before they got caught if such scenario were to happen.

Do you understand the above reference at all? lol

x5000x wrote:

Worst thread ever

I have to say I agree with you lol

OffthechainJoehovah wrote:

x5000x wrote:

Worst thread ever

I have to say I agree with you lol

At least its not about something extremely boring like...stamp collecting...lol

FlyerFan wrote:

OffthechainJoehovah wrote:

x5000x wrote:

Worst thread ever

I have to say I agree with you lol

At least its not about something extremely boring like...stamp collecting...lol

True lol. But I feel like this is stuff that's just too out there. Conspiracy with nothing to back it up.

OffthechainJoehovah wrote:

FlyerFan wrote:

OffthechainJoehovah wrote:

x5000x wrote:

Worst thread ever

I have to say I agree with you lol

At least its not about something extremely boring like...stamp collecting...lol

True lol. But I feel like this is stuff that's just too out there. Conspiracy with nothing to back it up.

Yeah, but believe it or not there are a ton of them out there. lol. I keep seeing those commercials for finding bigfoot. Lol. Like don't you think if he existed we would have surrounded his ass by now?

OffthechainJoehovah wrote:

x5000x wrote:

Worst thread ever

I have to say I agree with you lol

More like most hilarious thread ever.

yes it is a funny topic

FlyerFan wrote:

WendlaBergman wrote:

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

Buckley's Angel!!!

Yes! Do you know why I made this reference? There is a really touching story involving this episode and a letter Mike Judge got from a Columbine survivor about it. It premiered a couple weeks after the shooting.

WendlaBergman wrote:

FlyerFan wrote:

WendlaBergman wrote:

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

Buckley's Angel!!!

Yes! Do you know why I made this reference? There is a really touching story involving this episode and a letter Mike Judge got from a Columbine survivor about it. It premiered a couple weeks after the shooting.

Really? I'll have to look that up

WendlaBergman wrote:

FlyerFan wrote:

WendlaBergman wrote:

Dylan isn't dead. I saw him on my trampoline the other night. He said to tell y'all "Hey." We jumped and then, well, mostly we just jumped but I'm just happy to know he's okay. Then this morning he told me Jesus said that I was meant for something else and at first I thought he meant something worse, but then I realized he meant something better! And I got my tuition money back from Ms Kremzer and enrolled in Arlen Community College - just like Jesus said!

Buckley's Angel!!!

Yes! Do you know why I made this reference? There is a really touching story involving this episode and a letter Mike Judge got from a Columbine survivor about it. It premiered a couple weeks after the shooting.

I believe I also read that the survivor was in love with one of the shooters as well and the episode helped her come to terms with mourning for them.

Yeah I just Googled it and found a reddit post from a girl who apparently knew that girl and she says it was Dylan that she was in love with.

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