Shooting at Christchurch Mosque

G4145 wrote:

Neah wrote:

G4145 wrote:

NSAhoneypot wrote:

@Tommy QTR I believe his target selection out the window was solely based off the skin color of people.  

Judging by the fact that he attacked a Mosque, his targets were probably Muslims.

If there had been a white Muslim convert in the Mosque, I have full confidence that they would've been shot as well.

I'm sure he would have shot them even more.

Branton Tarrant wrote:

Did/do you personally hate muslims?
A muslim man or woman living in their homelands? No. A muslim man or woman choosing to invade our lands live on our soil and replace our people? Yes, I dislike them. The only muslim I truly hate is the convert, those from our own people that turn their backs on their heritage, turn their backs on their cultures, turn their back on their traditions and became blood traitors to their own race. These I hate.

Exactly. That point alone proves it was more religiously motivated than racially.

Of course, it'd be silly to say that race played no part; but Brenton did not differentiate between skin colours whilst in the Mosque. A white Muslim would've been shot as much as (if not more, like you said) a brown Muslim.

I don't totally agree with what you said. While I agree that he didn't kill them for their skin colour only, nor for their religion only, I don't think that race had nothing to do with the shooting. He killed them because of their skin colour and religion in an occidental country. Had they been in an Arabic country and he would not have wanted to harm them nor kill all muslims in the world. As for white muslims, he wanted to kill them because he sees them as traitors. So based on what he wrote (his actual thoughts might differ although I don't think so), he is not against non-white people or muslims per se, but against them in a white country in order to preserve the "white race".

I said out the window. Out the window and driving past people, the only thing that could catch his eye is skin color. Sure, maybe if there was a white guy dressed in Islamic garb from head to toe, he would've shot him, but I couldn't see a single person he was driving past who looked like that.

New Zealand police are saying that people with possession with the video of the shooting could face up to 10 years in prison.

Good fucking luck with that.

LOL 10 YEARS? Are they bugging people's computers now?

kids got a point.

School Massacre Archives wrote:

New Zealand police are saying that people with possession with the video of the shooting could face up to 10 years in prison.

Good fucking luck with that.

source for those interested:

The death toll has risen to 50.

Neah wrote:

The death toll has risen to 50.

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STK wrote:

Neah wrote:

The death toll has risen to 50.

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Oh yeah, I had seen there was a dozen of people missing, but I thought that by now everybody would have been found.

Fascists. You make me sick sick sick. How some one hasn't pulled a serious attack on law enforcement in the US to this day still escapes me. All of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses. And now Donald's police are illegally spying on all pregnant US women (no i'm not making this up) Man i treat police as soldiers, mercenaries, and enemy combatants and the enemy and my enemy. Will not spy on fascists or Islamic terrorists but will spy on harmless gay people and straight gamer's who love anime and want police accountability like me. Donald and all the police around the world are fascists. I'm sick of straight up violent fascist politicians and fascist police and our fascist governments. Donald Trump is worse and more evil than Hitler and Stalin and Donald Trumps police are more evil than Hitlers AND Stalins secret police. Man this country is heading towards a civil war. Fuck the fascist man. Man the police and republicans and Donald are fascist and anti American their the ones who are engaged in anti American activities. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Maybe that's why we have mass shootings. Because the police are wasting their time and resources spying on people of color, gamer's, porn watchers and masturbaters for sure, gays, anime and movie and music fans, hobbyists, women, left wingers, people who have lots of perverted sex, and autistic NEETS who were bullied by society. God knows how many hits on innocent people that fascist has ordered. God i hate the whole government and politics and politicians and police. God i hate both right and left. God all the worlds third world police and illegal spying make me sick and mad i just couldn't hold it back anymore i just had to rant and rave and explode. Man where were the NZ police? Spying on pet owners? Beating and torturing kids for playing sports? Smoking dope and crack? Jesus police spying has always been used to repress innocent people.

Neah wrote:

STK wrote:

Neah wrote:

The death toll has risen to 50.

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Oh yeah, I had seen there was a dozen of people missing, but I thought that by now everybody would have been found.

There are still some people in critical, unfortunately. I don't think the death toll is done rising yet.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], some good news, Kyle has finally made a video on this attack:



They discuss it at the 25:30 mark.

Have any of the weapons been identified? particularly shotgun, and the two rifles, one of which appears to be an AR-15 of sorts.

thedarkmessiah wrote:

Fascists. You make me sick sick sick. How some one hasn't pulled a serious attack on law enforcement in the US to this day still escapes me. All of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses. And now Donald's police are illegally spying on all pregnant US women (no i'm not making this up) Man i treat police as soldiers, mercenaries, and enemy combatants and the enemy and my enemy. Will not spy on fascists or Islamic terrorists but will spy on harmless gay people and straight gamer's who love anime and want police accountability like me. Donald and all the police around the world are fascists. I'm sick of straight up violent fascist politicians and fascist police and our fascist governments. Donald Trump is worse and more evil than Hitler and Stalin and Donald Trumps police are more evil than Hitlers AND Stalins secret police. Man this country is heading towards a civil war. Fuck the fascist man. Man the police and republicans and Donald are fascist and anti American their the ones who are engaged in anti American activities. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Maybe that's why we have mass shootings. Because the police are wasting their time and resources spying on people of color, gamer's, porn watchers and masturbaters for sure, gays, anime and movie and music fans, hobbyists, women, left wingers, people who have lots of perverted sex, and autistic NEETS who were bullied by society. God knows how many hits on innocent people that fascist has ordered. God i hate the whole government and politics and politicians and police. God i hate both right and left. God all the worlds third world police and illegal spying make me sick and mad i just couldn't hold it back anymore i just had to rant and rave and explode. Man where were the NZ police? Spying on pet owners? Beating and torturing kids for playing sports? Smoking dope and crack? Jesus police spying has always been used to repress innocent people.

Please, put down the hookah. It's bad for your health.

Subdomine wrote:

Have any of the weapons been identified? particularly shotgun, and the two rifles, one of which appears to be an AR-15 of sorts.

He was in legal posseion of 5 guns:

Mossberg 930 Tactical 8 Shot SPX

Remington 870

2 AR-15's

Either a Bolt-Action or a Lever-Action Rifle

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Clearly, the fluoride in the water turned the gay frogs sentient and allowed them to grow hands thus leading to this guy carrying out his act BUT THE FROGS AREN'T FROGS THEY'RE LIZARD PEOPLE!!!

Also, I hate how people are already calling this attack a false flag/staged. Would he need to have his entire life filmed in order for people to not claim that?

Tommy QTR wrote:

Subdomine wrote:

Have any of the weapons been identified? particularly shotgun, and the two rifles, one of which appears to be an AR-15 of sorts.

He was in legal posseion of 5 guns:

Mossberg 930 Tactical 8 Shot SPX

Remington 870

2 AR-15's

Either a Bolt-Action or a Lever-Action Rifle

To add to this, although I'm not sure what specific brand they were, both of his AR-15s appear to have had Hera Arms CQR butt-stocks:
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In addition, one of his AR-15s also has what appears to be a Magpul RVG:
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STK wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

Subdomine wrote:

Have any of the weapons been identified? particularly shotgun, and the two rifles, one of which appears to be an AR-15 of sorts.

He was in legal posseion of 5 guns:

Mossberg 930 Tactical 8 Shot SPX

Remington 870

2 AR-15's

Either a Bolt-Action or a Lever-Action Rifle

To add to this, although I'm not sure what specific brand they were, both of his AR-15s appear to have had Hera Arms CQR butt-stocks:
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Yes I believe that is part of the legal requirement to obtain a Semi-Automatic Rifle in New Zealand.

God damnit, Candace Owens, why did you have to do this?!

thedarkmessiah wrote:

Fascists. You make me sick sick sick. How some one hasn't pulled a serious attack on law enforcement in the US to this day still escapes me. All of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses. And now Donald's police are illegally spying on all pregnant US women (no i'm not making this up) Man i treat police as soldiers, mercenaries, and enemy combatants and the enemy and my enemy. Will not spy on fascists or Islamic terrorists but will spy on harmless gay people and straight gamer's who love anime and want police accountability like me. Donald and all the police around the world are fascists. I'm sick of straight up violent fascist politicians and fascist police and our fascist governments. Donald Trump is worse and more evil than Hitler and Stalin and Donald Trumps police are more evil than Hitlers AND Stalins secret police. Man this country is heading towards a civil war. Fuck the fascist man. Man the police and republicans and Donald are fascist and anti American their the ones who are engaged in anti American activities. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Maybe that's why we have mass shootings. Because the police are wasting their time and resources spying on people of color, gamer's, porn watchers and masturbaters for sure, gays, anime and movie and music fans, hobbyists, women, left wingers, people who have lots of perverted sex, and autistic NEETS who were bullied by society. God knows how many hits on innocent people that fascist has ordered. God i hate the whole government and politics and politicians and police. God i hate both right and left. God all the worlds third world police and illegal spying make me sick and mad i just couldn't hold it back anymore i just had to rant and rave and explode. Man where were the NZ police? Spying on pet owners? Beating and torturing kids for playing sports? Smoking dope and crack? Jesus police spying has always been used to repress innocent people.

You're havin' a laff aren't ya?

thedarkmessiah wrote:

Fascists. You make me sick sick sick. How some one hasn't pulled a serious attack on law enforcement in the US to this day still escapes me. All of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses. And now Donald's police are illegally spying on all pregnant US women (no i'm not making this up) Man i treat police as soldiers, mercenaries, and enemy combatants and the enemy and my enemy. Will not spy on fascists or Islamic terrorists but will spy on harmless gay people and straight gamer's who love anime and want police accountability like me. Donald and all the police around the world are fascists. I'm sick of straight up violent fascist politicians and fascist police and our fascist governments. Donald Trump is worse and more evil than Hitler and Stalin and Donald Trumps police are more evil than Hitlers AND Stalins secret police. Man this country is heading towards a civil war. Fuck the fascist man. Man the police and republicans and Donald are fascist and anti American their the ones who are engaged in anti American activities. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Maybe that's why we have mass shootings. Because the police are wasting their time and resources spying on people of color, gamer's, porn watchers and masturbaters for sure, gays, anime and movie and music fans, hobbyists, women, left wingers, people who have lots of perverted sex, and autistic NEETS who were bullied by society. God knows how many hits on innocent people that fascist has ordered. God i hate the whole government and politics and politicians and police. God i hate both right and left. God all the worlds third world police and illegal spying make me sick and mad i just couldn't hold it back anymore i just had to rant and rave and explode. Man where were the NZ police? Spying on pet owners? Beating and torturing kids for playing sports? Smoking dope and crack? Jesus police spying has always been used to repress innocent people.

u wot m8

Oh my god. The more I read about this dude, the more I think he's just a dank memer taking it too far. Which ruins the reputation of memers (why am i even using that word?) like me.

BTW I'm not sure what everyone else's opinions on Islam is, but how is a Muslim convert a traitor? Like I'm an atheist myself, but most of my ancestors were Christian. Does that make me just as bad?

I found a good article explaining all that was written on his guns/mag's;

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It would seem he particularly hates the Ottoman Turks more than anything else, then again I guess most of the Muslims that European powers fought against came from the Ottoman Empire so there's that.

7kids wrote:

Oh my god. The more I read about this dude, the more I think he's just a dank memer taking it too far. Which ruins the reputation of memers (why am i even using that word?) like me.

BTW I'm not sure what everyone else's opinions on Islam is, but how is a Muslim convert a traitor? Like I'm an atheist myself, but most of my ancestors were Christian. Does that make me just as bad?

To him Islam is incompatible with the western world because it is not part of its culture nor history. So a white person who becomes a muslim is, still according to him, someone who disowns his heritage and his "race". I guess to him being an atheist is fine.

Subdomine wrote:

From 13:22 to 14:02, Tarrant speeds along the road till he stops at a red light.

This made me chuckle.

Wouldn't want to commit any traffic violations.

Jared Lee Loughner was stopped for a traffic violation-before the shooting. Must suck for that cop. Timothy McVeigh was stopped for a missing license plate.
In actuality I think we was just so used to doing it and just stopped without thinking.

alphawhiskey86 wrote:

Jared Lee Loughner was stopped for a traffic violation-before the shooting.  Must suck for that cop. Timothy McVeigh was stopped for a missing license plate.  
In actuality I think we was just so used to doing it and just stopped without thinking.

Imagine if he had been stopped by the police before the shooting, with all his guns on the passenger seat. I still can't understand why he had this crazy idea.

He obviously was just trying to make a big show. Nothing but a loser

iforgotmyoldname2 wrote:

Subdomine wrote:

From 13:22 to 14:02, Tarrant speeds along the road till he stops at a red light.

This made me chuckle.

Wouldn't want to commit any traffic violations.

Well he could've caused a car crash, and that would've stopped the attack...

It was funny how he stopped at that light, yet shot out his windows and honked at people walking by.

After the first shooting he started to be rather careful with his driving, but then he began to speed up, as if he thought that he was done so he could as well enjoy his last free moments, or as if he felt as in a video game or a movie.

Why is he 28 but looking 48?

Where was the music in the video coming from?

Probably from his car.

Koltin wrote:

Probably from his car.

Yeah, the nearer he is from his car the louder the music is but I thought we could also hear it when he was entering the mosque so I was ensure.

I think I've heard the heard the song that played during his shooting, it's either another Serbian Nationalist Song or I think is a song by the Golden Dawn (Greek Neo-Nazi Party).

Tommy QTR wrote:

I think I've heard the heard the song that played during his shooting, it's either another Serbian Nationalist Song or I think is a song by the Golden Dawn (Greek Neo-Nazi Party).

There were these identified by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]:

R4YN3 wrote:

Anybody know the songs that were playing throughout the whole 17 minutes of footage? Specifically what was playing when he was inside the mosque shooting people? The songs in chronological order that I know were;
1) Serbia Strong (Right at the beginning as he was driving to the mosque.)
2) British Grenadiers (When he was parking his car and taking his gear.)
3) ??? (Playing during when the bulk of the killing was done inside the mosque.)
4) Gas Gas (Playing as he was leaving the scene on his vehicle.)

and these (according to a disreputable website which I thought should know the songs):

-Grün ist Ünser Fallschirm Remix (I think it was the song playing during the shooting, after British Grenadiers)
-Arthur Brown - Fire (apparently when he drives away from the mosque)


So if I understood correctly, the order is:

1) Serbia Strong
2) British Grenadiers
3) Grün ist Ünser Fallschirm Remix
4) Arthur Brown - Fire
5) Gas Gas Gas

I didn't check, I don't want to re-watch the video.


edit: The order seems correct, that's what everyone on the internet says. There has even been a compilation on youtube.

First mass shooting live on the internet...

The start of a new era, like after Columbine..

This crime should have his own section...

7kids wrote:

Why is he 28 but looking 48?

I mean, white supremacists never exactly look the greatest. They always look like like an awful representation of a human being.

Icarius wrote:

First mass shooting live on the internet...

I would even go further and say first "directed" mass shooting video. This guy had its own soundtrack and it fitted each stage of the event, this is crazy.

hvernon wrote:

7kids wrote:

Why is he 28 but looking 48?

I mean, white supremacists never exactly look the greatest. They always look like like an awful representation of a human being.

So much for claiming to be the "master race".

hvernon wrote:

7kids wrote:

Why is he 28 but looking 48?

I mean, white supremacists never exactly look the greatest. They always look like like an awful representation of a human being.

I remember reading Dr. Langman's first book on school shootings, and while talking about Eric and his inclinations towards prejudice mentioned a statistic about how a study done on a group of Neo-Nazis found that many of them had medical defects of some kind, suggesting that the adoption of such an extremist ideology is motivated by a need to overcompensate.

QuestionMark wrote:

hvernon wrote:

7kids wrote:

Why is he 28 but looking 48?

I mean, white supremacists never exactly look the greatest. They always look like like an awful representation of a human being.

I remember reading Dr. Langman's first book on school shootings, and while talking about Eric and his inclinations towards prejudice mentioned a statistic about how a study done on a group of Neo-Nazis found that many of them had medical defects of some kind, suggesting that the adoption of such an extremist ideology is motivated by a need to overcompensate.

I agree, that is another issue to overcompensate than the one I was trying to explain here, if you are interested I can send you the article (although I think it was overgeneralizing things and not enough deeply studied):

Neah wrote:

Studies have shown that many people who become far-right extremists (neo-nazis, white supremacists...) do so in order to feel accepted, to feel part of something. Maybe he lacked confidence because of bullying and his weight when he was a teenager. In an article by New Scientist (9 June 2018), a research by Pete Simi among 103 (only?!) former white supremacists has shown that "more than three-quarters report parental divorce". Obviously, to say that he committed the shooting because he was bullied and his parents divorced would be a wrong simplification, but it may partly explains why he radicalized in the first place.

Because radicalization needs a reason to exist u know...

Why not shoot up his school? or kill the people that harassed him?
The mosque victims did nothing to him, fucking cunt.

Probably popped a boner to seeing the bodies in the mosque and shooting them again.

Based on his writings, he probably would have fucked some of those corpses if not for the gopro.

Subdomine wrote:

Why not shoot up his school? or kill the people that harassed him?
The mosque victims did nothing to him, fucking cunt.

Probably popped a boner to seeing the bodies in the mosque and shooting them again.

Based on his writings, he probably would have fucked some of those corpses if not for the gopro.

Probably because he really really really didn't like Islam/Muslims (massive understatement). Iirc I didn't see much in his manifesto in regards to any issues at school that were bad enough for him to consider making his former school a target. It sounded like he may have been teased or harassed for his weight when he was younger but that's about it.

Subdomine wrote:

Why not shoot up his school? or kill the people that harassed him?
The mosque victims did nothing to him, fucking cunt.

Probably popped a boner to seeing the bodies in the mosque and shooting them again.

Based on his writings, he probably would have fucked some of those corpses if not for the gopro.

Maybe because it makes a statement...? It's not hard to figure out why he attacked the two Mosques if you actually read his manifesto.

You're silly if you think shooting dead all those people was good.

You're also silly if you think Brenton had nothing to be angry at society about.

What really struck me as days passed by after the shooting, is that he doesn't seem to have any military/combat experience. At least not that we know of at this point. And to be able to just mercilessly kill everything and everyone in his way. I imagine if I was full of hate, anger, disgust etc. and somehow got to the point of wanting to kill people, I still don't think I'd be able to be so calculated and cold. From what I have seen in the video, this guy never even hesitated. I just don't understand how he could do all that without prior experience of knowing what it is like when killing real people.