Santa Fe High School shooting leaves at least 10 dead, suspect in custody

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Several families have joined a lawsuit against the parents of the teen accused of shooting and killing 10 people at Santa Fe High School in May, claiming negligence led to the shooting.  

The parents of Chris Stone initially filed a suit accusing Dimitrios Pagourtzis' parents of gross negligence for allowing him access to the father's weapons, which according to the lawsuit, were a .38 handgun and a sawed-off shotgun.

Now, the family of  Aaron McLeod, Christian Garcia and Jared Black have joined the suit.

“The families are united and resolute in their desire to hold the shooter’s parents accountable for this tragedy and want every parent of a troubled child to get that troubled child the help he/she needs and to safeguard their guns from that child,” attorney Clint McGuire said.

The lawsuit claims the Pagourtzis' failed to secure the weapons and permitted their son to have access to the weapons and ammunition, failed to obtain mental health counseling for their son, failed to properly warn the public of their son's "dangerous propensities" and negligently entrusted weapons to their son.

"Had the murderer not had available to him the weapons for his carnage, his hidden black rage might well have continued to simmer within, but, the life's blood of his teacher and peers, including Aaron Kyle McLeod, would not have been so horribly, callously and needlessly spilled,” the lawsuit says.

"His parents have lost the love, support, nurture and companionship they would have shared for the remainder of their lives with their beloved son, of whom they were so proud," the lawsuit says. "His parents have suffered the unusual and severe mental anguish and grief that only their son's sudden, unexpected, unjustified and absolutely unnecessary tragic death could cause. They have also lost all of the economic support they would have received from Aaron Kyle McCleod for the remainder of their lives, as they aged and watched his children, their grandchildren, grow."

Garcia, who was a freshman at Santa Fe, was described by his family as "a bright student who enjoyed football, basketball, music and being outdoors," the lawsuit says.

Black is said to have been "a bright, optimistic student who enjoyed art, science fiction and playing video games," according to his family.

The victim's families are seeking more than $1 million in damages for pain, suffering and funeral expenses.

All of the families are expected to appear in court on Sept. 6.

Screamingophelia wrote:

There were once "WWEHD" bracelets that were made after the Basement Tapes leak and it should have been "WWDKD" that is so tame in comparison to what these gals are doing now... jeesh.

Might anybody explain to me these abbreviations? I don't know them tbh and did not find anything by googling them ...

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Screamingophelia wrote:

There were once "WWEHD" bracelets that were made after the Basement Tapes leak and it should have been "WWDKD" that is so tame in comparison to what these gals are doing now... jeesh.

Might anybody explain to me these abbreviations? I don't know them tbh and did not find anything by googling them ...

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  They were a play on the popular WWJD(WhatWouldJesusDo) bracelets. Except they were WWEHD & WWDKD standing for "What would Eric Harris do or What would Dylan Klebold do."

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

arnounymus wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

There were once "WWEHD" bracelets that were made after the Basement Tapes leak and it should have been "WWDKD" that is so tame in comparison to what these gals are doing now... jeesh.

Might anybody explain to me these abbreviations? I don't know them tbh and did not find anything by googling them ...

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  They were a play on the popular WWJD(WhatWouldJesusDo) bracelets. Except they were WWEHD & WWDKD standing for "What would Eric Harris do or What would Dylan Klebold do."

Ah, i see - thank you very much

arnounymus wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

arnounymus wrote:

Screamingophelia wrote:

There were once "WWEHD" bracelets that were made after the Basement Tapes leak and it should have been "WWDKD" that is so tame in comparison to what these gals are doing now... jeesh.

Might anybody explain to me these abbreviations? I don't know them tbh and did not find anything by googling them ...

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  They were a play on the popular WWJD(WhatWouldJesusDo) bracelets. Except they were WWEHD & WWDKD standing for "What would Eric Harris do or What would Dylan Klebold do."

Ah, i see - thank you very much

No problem.

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The Santa Fe ISD School Board held a special meeting July 10 to vote on security measures following the May 18 shooting that left eight students and two substitute teachers dead. After an executive session to choose new teachers to hire, the board discussed five items to making the district’s schools more secure.

The first item involved retrofitting the classroom door locks in the high school. At present, the doors can only be locked from the outside. Santa Fe ISD Executive Director of Maintenance and Project Manager Bob Atkins said this was the standard configuration when the high school was built in 1999. Three agenda items specifically involved the high school.

The board approved a remodel plan to make the front entrance more secure and to relocate classes from the art labs where the shooting took place. Proposals for what to do with these classrooms include using them as offices for the campus police department to storage, but the board has decided that students will not be located in those rooms.

A proposal to install fencing around the school was unpopular, both for its cost and perceived ineffectiveness. The board voted the plan down to applause. After the board meeting, members of the community held a meeting at city hall for the informal community committee whose goal is to act as a liaison between the community and the school district’s Santa Fe Strong and Security Committee.

The main speaker of the event, Mark Bratcher, urged parents to remain involved even after more time has passed after the tragic event. “We should still be involved years from now,” Bratcher said. Bratcher said the committee wants all security needs to be solved by November, but also stressed that safety cannot completely displace education.

“We don’t want our kids graduating with little to no education,” Bratcher said.

John Vanderslice, a leader of the committee, said it has done extensive research on the application of the metal detectors that have been promised in donation to the district, sending two members to Aldine ISD to observe the security system in place there. Twice during the meeting, speakers asked for a show of hands in favor of metal detectors, and support was nearly unanimous.

Bratcher said that gun control was not going to be part of the discussion for Santa Fe. “We’re being watched by the nation, and we are not going to follow these other schools in gun control. That’s not Santa Fe, Texas,” Bratcher said, adding that Santa Fe residents are not concerned with political agendas regarding firearms.

Rosie Yanas, the mother of Chris Stone, who was killed in the shooting, urged parents to be vigilant. “After February, I sent Chris to school,” Yanas said, referring to a false alarm at Santa Fe High School just months before the shooting. “I didn’t think something like this would happen.” “If nothing else, stand up,” Yanas told parents. “Be vigilant. Keep eyes open, keep ears open and pay a lot of attention.”


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Texas school shooting suspect Dimitrios Pagourtzis held on capital slaying charge.

The nation experienced another tragic school shooting Friday in Santa Fe, Texas, but unlike the previous ones, there were very few red flags, according to authorities.

Dimitrios Pagourtzis, the 17 -year-old suspect, is being held without bond in the Galveston County jail on charges of capital slaying. He used his father’s Remington 870 shotgun and. 38 caliber handgun in the two attacks that left 10 dead and 10 wounded at Santa Fe High School, according to a probable cause affidavit and complaint charged against him.

“Unlike Parkland, unlike Sutherland Springs, there were not those types of warning signs, ” Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said at a news conference Friday night. “The red-flag warnings were either nonexistent or very imperceptible.”

Abbott was referring to the Feb. 14 Parkland, Florida, school shooting that killed 17 people, where law enforcement- from FBI to the Broward County Sheriff’s Office- was accused of dismissing several tips and warning signs surrounding shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz, as well as the shooting that killed 26 people in November inside a church in a town near San Antonio.

Pagourtzis had recently posted a picture of a T-shirt reading “Born to Kill” on his Facebook page and he followed a number of accounts on Instagram like “sickguns” and “gunspictures, ” Abbott said, but classmates described Pagourtzis as a quiet, avid video game player who routinely wore a black trench coat and black boots to class. He ceased playing football on the school’s junior varsity squad last autumn and danced as part of a church group.

TEXAS SHOOTING SUSPECT SAYS HE AVOIDED SHOOTING STUDENTS HE LIKED TO’ HAVE HIS STORY TOLD, ’ AFFIDAVIT SAYS

According to the affidavit, Pagourtzis told researchers “he did not shoot students he did like so he could have his narrative told, ” and authorities detected publications on his phone and computer saying he was planning to commit suicide after carrying out the shooting.

Those who know him carried shock that he might be involved in the massacre.

Michael Farina, 17, grew up with Pagourtzis and said he would play video games with him. He recalled Pagourtzis knew a great deal about guns and remembered him asking which handgun he should get when he was older.

“I’m kind of dumbfounded, ” Farina said. “We didn’t get any warning.”







The Santa Fe shooting has basically fallen off the map. It's hard to find any new info about it.

Why has there not been a single update on dimitrios since the day of the attack...also rather strange he still has not had another court date besides the initial day he was arrested. It's moving along slower then usual.

I'm waiting for the digital journal entries to be released, if the entries aren't released, i'll be disappointed and sad because I want to know more.

These lawsuits and "measures" are really pathetic.

The lawsuits are a shameless cashgrab of a massacre, and those measures are just security firms selling their crap to schools to make money, turning the school into a prison under the ruse of public pressure that doesnt exist the "duty" to "act". The shooting already happened retards, how often does a school get targeted twice?

The absolute state of society, fear and greed.

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

Why has there not been a single update on dimitrios since the day of the attack...also rather strange he still  has not had another court date besides the initial day he was arrested. It's moving along slower then usual.

Agreed. Info on this case is damn near impossible to find, possibly because nothing much has been happening. It's like it is at a stand still.

The last real thing worth mentioning was they had ordered a mental evaluation of Dimitrios, but that was a while back. To my knowledge those results have yet to be released, or if they were made public then I missed them somehow.

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

Why has there not been a single update on dimitrios since the day of the attack...also rather strange he still  has not had another court date besides the initial day he was arrested. It's moving along slower then usual.

Probably because, sad to say, this shooting was pretty generic.

QuestionMark wrote:

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

Why has there not been a single update on dimitrios since the day of the attack...also rather strange he still  has not had another court date besides the initial day he was arrested. It's moving along slower then usual.

Probably because, sad to say, this shooting was pretty generic.

Agreed. Judging by the evidence we currently have,(which isn't very much)Dimi was just a run of the mill copycat.

I'm surprised because in terms of the "next Columbine", Santa Fe is the closest, even before Parkland. The kill count is especially close to, Dimitrios pretty much did what Eric and Dylan did in the library and that's it without the extras they got. They killed 10 and injured 12 in the library, he killed 10 and injured 13 In the art classrooms. He even copied there mocking of the victims, playing Japanese war music throughout the shooting and yelling things such as "another one bites the dust" and "surprise" before shooting a victim...which closely mimics Erics "peekaboo". Had mass shootings not be as common as they are, I think this would of gotten massive attention as the next Columbine. He even went out of his way to get fake dummy pipe bombs and cooker bombs that weren't even capable of detonating to mimic how Eric and Dylan brought bombs in, I wonder if the fact they were dummy ones was to even copy the fact that Eric and Dylans bombs didn't do anything.

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

I'm surprised because in terms of the "next Columbine", Santa Fe is the closest, even before Parkland. The kill count is especially close to, Dimitrios pretty much did what Eric and Dylan did in the library and that's it without the extras they got. They killed 10 and injured 12 in the library, he killed 10 and injured 13 In the art classrooms. He even copied there mocking of the victims, playing Japanese war music throughout the shooting and yelling things such as "another one bites the dust" and "surprise" before shooting a victim...which closely mimics Erics "peekaboo". Had mass shootings not be as common as they are, I think this would of gotten massive attention as the next Columbine. He even went out of his way to get fake dummy pipe bombs and cooker bombs that weren't even capable of detonating to mimic how Eric and Dylan brought bombs in, I wonder if the fact they were dummy ones was to even copy the fact that Eric and Dylans bombs didn't do anything.

Well, that stuff isn't all copied. I mean if you really try I guess you can connect them, but I don't know, I just don't like how much credit people give columbine.

Dimitrios in particular was no doubt very inspired by Columbine.

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

Dimitrios in particular  was no doubt very inspired by Columbine.

Yeah, he honestly seems like he was.

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

He looks like a 30 year old man in that pic, not a good look on him.

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

He looks like a 30 year old man in that pic, not a good look on him.

Some guys can pull off a shaved head, and some just SO can't! I fear Dimi falls into latter category.

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

It's legit.

InsaneIntruder wrote:

ShadowedGoddess wrote:

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

It's legit.

Thanks for verifying it.

The shaved head doesn’t make him look badass just old.

Lmao he looks so different bald

He looks so much better with hair damn

I wasn't expecting him to go bald. Yeah, I don't enjoy the bald cut, was much better looking with hair.

I agree with [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Kids/teenagers (maybe even young adults) that are bald, they just look unnatural.

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

It's legit.

Wow. Is he trying to pull off a skinhead look? I know Nikolas Cruz shaved his head too, maybe Dimitri is taking cues from other shooters once again.

Dimitri looks like humpty dumpty when bald.

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Dont skinheads have [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] buzzcuts instead of being completely bald?

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

I'm surprised because in terms of the "next Columbine", Santa Fe is the closest, even before Parkland. The kill count is especially close to, Dimitrios pretty much did what Eric and Dylan did in the library and that's it without the extras they got. They killed 10 and injured 12 in the library, he killed 10 and injured 13 In the art classrooms. He even copied there mocking of the victims, playing Japanese war music throughout the shooting and yelling things such as "another one bites the dust" and "surprise" before shooting a victim...which closely mimics Erics "peekaboo". Had mass shootings not be as common as they are, I think this would of gotten massive attention as the next Columbine. He even went out of his way to get fake dummy pipe bombs and cooker bombs that weren't even capable of detonating to mimic how Eric and Dylan brought bombs in, I wonder if the fact they were dummy ones was to even copy the fact that Eric and Dylans bombs didn't do anything.

I think the "next Columbine" would need multiple perpetrators again, because a group dynamic offers more content than a generic high school loser killing a few people. That said there wont be a "next Columbine", at least it will manifest itself differently, this generation has a different attitude and the media doesnt have the influence to hype something up anymore, which is the reason why more recent shooters dont get any "fame" anymore.

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InsaneIntruder wrote:

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Well found this on the Dimitrios Pagourtzis, side of Tumblr. Source saying it was taken from the Galveston county jail website. I don't know if it's legit or not. I just didn't feel like searching to see if it was real.

But apparently what few fans Dimi has are LIVID that he shaved his head.

It's legit.

Wow. Is he trying to pull off a skinhead look? I know Nikolas Cruz shaved his head too, maybe Dimitri is taking cues from other shooters once again.

Who knows?

Halcyon666 wrote:

Dimitri looks like humpty dumpty when bald.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]    He somewhat looks like the Humpty Dumpty from the kids movie Puss in Boots!


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I wonder how dimitrios feels about his situation, it’s hard to tell because he has such an expressionless facial expression in both his mugshots. He’s 17 years old and will be in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Since may 18th he has been in a cell 23 hours out of the day with literally nothing to do but lay in bed. As put in general population he will surely be raped/ killed: severely beaten and the authorities know this but sadly they sometimes they turn there back, it’s the same way for nikolas Cruz

VoDKaComeHere wrote:

I wonder how dimitrios feels about his situation, it’s hard to tell because he has such an expressionless facial expression in both his mugshots. He’s 17 years old and will be in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Since may 18th he has been in a cell 23 hours out of the day with literally nothing to do but lay in bed. As put in general population he will surely be raped/ killed: severely beaten and the authorities know this but sadly they sometimes they turn there back, it’s the same way for nikolas Cruz

Who knows? As info on him is hard to come by. But I would say that his head is a very dark place to be given his current circumstances.

the media forgot about this one quickly

r4911 wrote:

the media forgot about this one quickly

They do that with the majority of Shootings now.

Tommy QTR wrote:

r4911 wrote:

the media forgot about this one quickly

They do that with the majority of Shootings now.

yeah, he didn't use an ar 15 so they didn't give a fuck

@duke nukem they straight up did, this shooting got so little coverage

Duke Nukem wrote:

Tommy QTR wrote:

r4911 wrote:

the media forgot about this one quickly

They do that with the majority of Shootings now.

yeah, he didn't use an  ar 15 so they didn't give a fuck

He wasn't demented enough for wall to wall coverage like Nick Cruz.

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Texas schools have been adding metal detectors and armed personnel in an effort to improve campus security in response to the deadly May attack at a Houston-area high school that left eight students and two teachers dead.

Among the steps that Texas apparently won't be taking anytime soon is tightening restrictions on gun access for people deemed dangerous to themselves or others.

In the aftermath of the May 18 attack at Santa Fe High School, Republican Gov. Greg Abbott suggested that Texas should look for ways to keep guns away from people who pose "an immediate danger to others," which is the point of so-called red flag laws like those passed by six states since the February massacre at a high school in Parkland , Florida.

But faced with criticism from gun enthusiasts in the country's largest conservative state, Abbott — who gets top ratings from the National Rifle Association — later clarified that he was only suggesting such laws be part of a broader conversation about school security and that he thinks there's growing opposition to the idea of gun restrictions.

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who presides over the Texas Senate, was even more forceful.

"I have never supported these policies, nor has the majority of the Texas Senate," he said minutes after the last in a series of state Senate hearings on gun violence.

The one-two punch by the state's top Republicans drew cheers from gun rights advocates in a state that has more than 1.2 million handgun license holders and allows the open carry in public of handguns and long rifles.

While they vary from state to state, red flag laws generally allow law enforcement or family members to ask a judge to order the seizure or surrender of guns from someone who is deemed dangerous, often because of mental health concerns or threats of violence. About a dozen states have red flag laws, including Republican-led Florida, which passed its law following the Parkland school attack.

Texas can deny a handgun license based on a person's mental health history, but that restriction applies to the license to carry a handgun, not buying one. The state can seize weapons from people determined to be in a mental crisis in some circumstances.

Some gun rights activists worry that expanding red flag laws would allow the government to seize someone's guns based on the suspicion of a threat or a false report without that person having acted violently.

"Red flag laws are nothing more than ways to take guns out of the hands of law-abiding persons on nothing more than mere suspicion," said C.J. Grisham, leader of gun rights group Open Carry Texas, which has pushed to reduce gun restrictions for years. "You never get good policy when you base it off of emotion."

Abbott's suggestion after the Santa Fe attack that Texas should consider keeping guns away from people who pose an immediate danger to others surprised many because neither he nor any of the state's Republican leaders even suggested tightening gun laws after last November's massacre at a church in Sutherland Springs, near San Antonio.

Police said the teenage suspect in the Santa Fe shooting took his father's weapons and that there hadn't been any prior reports that he may have been mentally ill. But a red flag law might have helped in the church shooting. The Air Force failed to properly notify federal law enforcement agencies of the gunman's previous felony domestic violence conviction and the gunman had spent time at a mental health hospital in New Mexico.

Shortly after the Santa Fe school shooting, Abbott held meetings with law enforcement officials, educators, mental health experts, attack survivors and victims' family members. A gun control group, Texas Gun Sense, got a seat next to the governor. On his other side was the Texas State Rifle Association, the state arm of the NRA.

Few expected major gun control proposals. But after years of watching Texas lawmakers make it easier and cheaper to get a handgun license and carry weapons in public, gun control advocates felt like finally they had a foot in the door, only to get it crushed again.

Advocates for red flag laws say they can help prevent violence before it starts, unlike armed teachers and school marshals, who can react after an attack has already begun. Abbott's 43-page school safety and gun violence plan focused on getting more armed guards and personnel on campus, improving gun storage safety laws and boosting mental health screenings.

"It's been a wave in other states, even with Republican governors. But not Texas," said Gyl Switzer, executive director of Texas Gun Sense. "What keeps me up at night is worrying that there will be another situation. I don't want us to have to learn from another really sad situation."

Soon after Abbott called for the conversation on red flag laws, the state Republican Party's convention platform in June specifically opposed them. The issue drew strong opposition at the legislative hearings. In his speech to the state GOP convention, Abbott promised he would protect gun rights.

"The people of Sutherland Springs, they looked me in the eye and they insisted, they said, 'Governor, do not let them use this to take away our guns,'" Abbott said.

The retreat was to be expected, said Cal Jillson, political science professor at Southern Methodist University .

"It is remarkable how consistent the playbook is in red states. Let time pass, let attention pass, then declare that current law has this under control," Jillson said. "That's the normal playbook and that's what we saw here."






Still trying to keep this thread updated. Unfortunately there is just very little being said about Dimitrios Pagourtzis or his case.

QuestionMark wrote:

Wow. Is he trying to pull off a skinhead look? I know Nikolas Cruz shaved his head too, maybe Dimitri is taking cues from other shooters once again.

TJ Lane went for the skinhead look aswell.

I found this video of him dancing in a church days prior to shooting.
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He looks even more like a potato with his head shaved.

W.A.R. wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

Wow. Is he trying to pull off a skinhead look? I know Nikolas Cruz shaved his head too, maybe Dimitri is taking cues from other shooters once again.

TJ Lane went for the skinhead look aswell.

I just realized, Dimitri here might've shaved his head to look more like a soldier. He seemed to take a particular liking to Full Metal Jacket considering he had a shirt that said "Born to Kill" and wore a peace symbol on his clothes.

QuestionMark wrote:

W.A.R. wrote:

QuestionMark wrote:

Wow. Is he trying to pull off a skinhead look? I know Nikolas Cruz shaved his head too, maybe Dimitri is taking cues from other shooters once again.

TJ Lane went for the skinhead look aswell.

I just realized, Dimitri here might've shaved his head to look more like a soldier. He seemed to take a particular liking to Full Metal Jacket considering he had a shirt that said "Born to Kill" and worse a peace symbol on his clothes.

That's a great point, he really reminds me of the character Joker from Full Metal Jacket.

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I found this video of him dancing in a church days prior to shooting.
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I got to admit, he was a good dancer.

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Dmitrios has just been indicted.

It's about time they got the ball rolling on his case.

Has anyone seen this video of the shooting?

School Massacre Archives wrote:

Has anyone seen this video of the shooting?

Wow, iv'e never seen this before. Nice find!