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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:48 am
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Subject: . Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:55 am
It seems that the kid, whose photos were posted in first page as a shooter, isnt really a shooter. Look at this video, he is talking with his mom. Last time i spoke russian was 6 years ago, so I really dont understand much. Can anybody tell what is this kid talking about? youtube.com/watch?v=K4zMEWSMHiQ
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:56 am
Also, can anybody send me uncenzored photos of dead Vladislav? All i can find on web is cenzored.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:01 pm
These are reportedly pictures of the attacker, Vladislav Roslyakov
Apparently it's not the attacker, it's some ex student who also is named Vladislav. It's good that it isn't the shooter because he looks like a common thug.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:09 pm
Correct, the pictures on the first page are of a different guy. He doesn’t even study at this college. He tells they are being threatened by people in social networks (he and his girlfriend, there’s a similar video of his girlfriend with her mother) and are afraid to go out. His social network name was Vladislav Reich. Someone thought he was a shooter cause his initials are the same.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:11 pm
Remember that this happened in Ukraine and not Russia.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:23 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
Remember that this happened in Ukraine and not Russia.
Crimea is part of Russia.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:29 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Remember that this happened in Ukraine and not Russia.
Crimea is part of Russia.
Alot of people still consider it part of Ukraine, it was stolen by Russia in 2014.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:34 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Remember that this happened in Ukraine and not Russia.
Crimea is part of Russia.
Alot of people still consider it part of Ukraine, it was stolen by Russia in 2014.
Russia went into Crimea to protect ethnic Russians from the Ukrainian government, the people of Crimea then voted to be part of Russia.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:17 pm
Here is a site with all of the victims listed, but it's all in Russian.
I used Google Translate to translate it into English, so whatever is said here might not be entirely accurate.
"The official list of those killed at the Kerch Polytechnic College has been published. Information provided as of 4 am on October 18, 2018.
The number of dead 20 people.
Stepanenko Sergey Alexandrovich 2003 year of birth
Karymov Roman Valerievich 1997 year of birth
Ustenko Lyudmila Aleksandrovna born in 1953
Perepelkin Egor Andreevich 1999 year of birth
Zhuravleva Anna Alexandrovna born in 1998
Verdibozhenko Vladislav Evgenievich 2003 year of birth
Kerova Alina Sergeevna born in 2002
Lysenko Ruslan Valerievich 2000 year of birth
Juraev Ruden Rishatovich born in 2001
Lazarev Vladislav Vitalevich 1999 year of birth
Lavrinovich Alexey Vitalevich 1999 year of birth
Florensky Nikita Danilovich 2002 year of birth
Pipenko Danil Igorevich 2002 year of birth
Chegerest Darya Aleksandrovna born in 2002
Moiseenko Alexander Vladimirovich born in 1972
Baklanova Anastasia Vyacheslavovna 1991 year of birth
Baklanova Svetlana Yuryevna born in 1961
Kudryavtseva Larisa Borisovna born in 1956
Boldina Ksenia Alexandrovna born in 2000.
Among the dead students - 15 people, of whom minors - 6 people, adults - 5 people."
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:42 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Remember that this happened in Ukraine and not Russia.
Crimea is part of Russia.
Alot of people still consider it part of Ukraine, it was stolen by Russia in 2014.
Russia went into Crimea to protect ethnic Russians from the Ukrainian government, the people of Crimea then voted to be part of Russia.
For all intents and purposes, Crimea is now part of Russia. The Ukrainian authorities can't do jack shit about it. Only a war or a very appeasing new government in Russia would result in territorial change. Both scenarios are highly unlikely.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:09 pm
Tuga wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Remember that this happened in Ukraine and not Russia.
Crimea is part of Russia.
Alot of people still consider it part of Ukraine, it was stolen by Russia in 2014.
Russia went into Crimea to protect ethnic Russians from the Ukrainian government, the people of Crimea then voted to be part of Russia.
For all intents and purposes, Crimea is now part of Russia. The Ukrainian authorities can't do jack shit about it. Only a war or a very appeasing new government in Russia would result in territorial change. Both scenarios are highly unlikely.
The people of Crimea want to be part of Russia anyway.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 pm
I have some pictures of the victims and also some info, I’m not allowed to post links yet though. I can send if someone is interested
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:28 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Seems they think he had help.
As is the case with most shootings like this. I doubt they'll find anyone else who was involved.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:32 pm
QuestionMark wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Seems they think he had help.
As is the case with most shootings like this. I doubt they'll find anyone else who was involved.
Maybe. But I actually shudder to think of how they will "question" any poor fucker they think may have been involved.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:40 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
QuestionMark wrote:
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Seems they think he had help.
As is the case with most shootings like this. I doubt they'll find anyone else who was involved.
Maybe. But I actually shudder to think of how they will "question" any poor fucker they think may have been involved.
Christ, I didn't even think of that. I guess I sort of forgot that this is Russia we're talking about, so this kind of thing is unfortunately likely to happen.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:17 pm
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Silent Professor wrote:
I would pm anyone who wants the suicide photo (I have the picture from different angles) but I have not reached the limit to pm people.
I also have a photo of his body from a different angle, as well as one after his body was moved, coincidentally it now being in a pose similar to Dylan's. Tell me and I'll PM them to you if you want them.
Can you PM those please. Thank you!
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:41 pm
So it begins.. Found on Tumblr. There are a couple blogs dedicated to him already. The flower/heart crowns are sure to follow.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:41 pm
That’s what I found about his mother.
The shooter’s mother was an activist of the Jehovah's Witnesses religious cult. She did not like his friends and called them “some kind of fools who dance and sing”. He wasn’t even allowed to go to the cinema. Any form of entertainment was a sin. The boy did not participate in class activities at school. Sometimes Vlad broke mother's prohibitions and was punished for that. In the ninth grade he spent much time in the library as there was a computer that his mother refused to buy. He registered in social networks and became interested in punks. Finally she asked his class teacher for advice. She advised to buy a computer. Which she bought but this wasn’t a solution to the problems.
Btw to those who pm’ed regarding the victims pictures, apparently I haven't reached the post limit for sending private messages.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:57 pm
In the 1st art on his shirt it’s written “tenderness” not “hatred” hahah
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:18 pm
This is absolutely fascinating. A successful Columbine copycat? 20 dead, 74 injured? And to boot it wasn't even in America!
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:18 pm
Does a female victim have a red leather-type jacket and blue jeans in one of the pictures you were talking about? I think I saw something like that on a Russian website but didn't bookmark the page unfortunately.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:30 pm
These are supposedly pictures of the damage caused from the bomb blast.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:35 pm
Interesting to think what Encylopedia Dramatica article would say. LOST AN IPAD? THIS PAGE CONTAINS AN HERO
Makes you realise what a failure The Columbine Shooters would have thought of themselves if they knew about this......
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:44 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I guess so, she also wears glasses
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:58 pm
4 first-year boys were throwing stones at the shooter to distract him and give the girls a chance to escape. The girls ran away while all the boys were shot.
That’s who everyone should admire.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:09 pm
Maybe he is going to be the new idol in Russia, just like Eric and Dylan are in the U.S.A?
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:18 pm
Ziamber II wrote:
Maybe he is going to be the new idol in Russia, just like Eric and Dylan are in the U.S.A?
Probably, it'll be interesting if he'll get any copycats.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:19 pm
Yikes, I've got a close up of his face after the suicide.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:36 pm
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Maybe he is going to be the new idol in Russia, just like Eric and Dylan are in the U.S.A?
Probably, it'll be interesting if he'll get any copycats.
But honestly would they be truly copying him? As he clearly copied Columbine as much as any to date. So would others copy a copycat, OR try something more original?
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:15 pm
ShadowedGoddess wrote:
Tommy QTR wrote:
Ziamber II wrote:
Maybe he is going to be the new idol in Russia, just like Eric and Dylan are in the U.S.A?
Probably, it'll be interesting if he'll get any copycats.
But honestly would they be truly copying him? As he clearly copied Columbine as much as any to date. So would others copy a copycat, OR try something more original?
I mean it depends on what person would be copying him, considering that there have been copycats of copycats before, I don't think it would be much of a stretch.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:23 pm
In the 1st art on his shirt it’s written “tenderness” not “hatred” hahah
I'm pretty sure with these fangirls that it's intentionally written like that.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:38 pm
Silent Professor wrote:
Yikes, I've got a close up of his face after the suicide.
Got a link?
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:52 pm
lockerouch wrote:
4 first-year boys were throwing stones at the shooter to distract him and give the girls a chance to escape. The girls ran away while all the boys were shot.
That’s who everyone should admire.
Why? They got awful kill ratio - 0 kills and got killed. Also, they clearly weren't exceptional individuals, since they threw away their lives to save some vocational school students.
There's no point in admiring people who are essentially NPCs.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:04 pm
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
lockerouch wrote:
4 first-year boys were throwing stones at the shooter to distract him and give the girls a chance to escape. The girls ran away while all the boys were shot.
That’s who everyone should admire.
Why? They got awful kill ratio - 0 kills and got killed. Also, they clearly weren't exceptional individuals, since they threw away their lives to save some vocational school students.
There's no point in admiring people who are essentially NPCs.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:21 pm
STK wrote:
This is absolutely fascinating. A successful Columbine copycat? 20 dead, 74 injured? And to boot it wasn't even in America!
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Btw to those who pm’ed regarding the victims pictures, apparently I haven't reached the post limit for sending private messages.
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I'd like to be PM'd these as well, please.
So this was 100% a Columbine copycat. There were uncanny similarities. Wonder when the police will find something linking the two together? Books, or a tumblr, or something.
Does this make this guy the most successful copycat? Unfortunately, he killed a lot of kids. I hope the death toll is not expected to rise as other wounded students are treated.
Edit: Based on the way the gun is positioned in the suicide pics, taking into account it might have moved some as he died, can we assume he committed suicide just like Eric? The gun seems to be pointing towards his mouth, and given the trajectory of the... parts of him that were away from his body... I am going to say he died just like Eric did. White shirt with black letters, must have looked up to Eric/felt a connection to him.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:42 am
hvernon wrote:
Does this make this guy the most successful copycat? Unfortunately, he killed a lot of kids. I hope the death toll is not expected to rise as other wounded students are treated.
Edit: Based on the way the gun is positioned in the suicide pics, taking into account it might have moved some as he died, can we assume he committed suicide just like Eric? The gun seems to be pointing towards his mouth, and given the trajectory of the... parts of him that were away from his body... I am going to say he died just like Eric did. White shirt with black letters, must have looked up to Eric/felt a connection to him.
If we're only counting the ones who were REALLY into Columbine specifically, then yeah, this new guy is; He killed the most amount of people, and he came the closest to replicating the shooting itself (the outfit, the death location, his death pose, the bombs). So yeah, definitely the most successful Columbine fanboy. Of course, when you remember who the other Columbine wannabes were, thats not as impressive as it sounds.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:47 am
UncontinuedProcess wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
lockerouch wrote:
4 first-year boys were throwing stones at the shooter to distract him and give the girls a chance to escape. The girls ran away while all the boys were shot.
That’s who everyone should admire.
Why? They got awful kill ratio - 0 kills and got killed. Also, they clearly weren't exceptional individuals, since they threw away their lives to save some vocational school students.
There's no point in admiring people who are essentially NPCs.
Doesn't make it not true, though.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:56 am
Another shooting by random angry jerk who didn't even bother to write a manifesto. Oh God it's so lame.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:23 am
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
UncontinuedProcess wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
lockerouch wrote:
4 first-year boys were throwing stones at the shooter to distract him and give the girls a chance to escape. The girls ran away while all the boys were shot.
That’s who everyone should admire.
Why? They got awful kill ratio - 0 kills and got killed. Also, they clearly weren't exceptional individuals, since they threw away their lives to save some vocational school students.
There's no point in admiring people who are essentially NPCs.
Doesn't make it not true, though.
He's a NPC only if you see him as a NPC. For the girl who was saved he played a huge role in her life.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:48 am
There is a word "Ненависть" on his t'shirt. English translation "hate"
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:50 am
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:02 am
Well, we all need to admit that he is now most successful Columbine copycat so far. Successful bombing in the cafeteria (he even picked the same place for the bomb), he alone killed more people than Eric and Dylan did (20 people for now), his outfit very similar and he was definitely inspired by Eric Harris, pump action shotgun as a weapon and of course suicide in the library near the book shelf. As i know he erased all his pc data and internet history.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:13 am
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:31 am
I've returned once again just in time for this coincidentally, It is definitely seems a columbine copycat as most of us are thinking, He detonated a remote control explosive device packed with metal in the cafeteria mirroring the failed plan of Eric and Dylans bombing, he then went in shooting with a stockless shotgun dawned in an outfit obviously meant to replicate Eric Harris's look at the columbine shooting (white shirt black font, Utility belt, black boots, even the gloves and wriststrap/watch), He commited suicide in the library as did dylan and Eric.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:00 am
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
UncontinuedProcess wrote:
Emanation of Darkness wrote:
lockerouch wrote:
4 first-year boys were throwing stones at the shooter to distract him and give the girls a chance to escape. The girls ran away while all the boys were shot.
That’s who everyone should admire.
Why? They got awful kill ratio - 0 kills and got killed. Also, they clearly weren't exceptional individuals, since they threw away their lives to save some vocational school students.
There's no point in admiring people who are essentially NPCs.
Doesn't make it not true, though.
Doesn't make you any less of edgelord spewing up the latest 4chan maymays.
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Subject: Re: At least 18 people killed in Crimea mass shooting/bombing Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:08 am