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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:50 am | |
| Was there any audio in the cafeteria footage? Watching the '99 special report and they've got "buzzy" cafeteria sounds with shots in the background as the students look out the window. Maybe just special effects? | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:09 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- 2 possibly dumb questions. I was reading the 1 star reviews of AMR, some are actually sympathetic to Dylan more so than Sue. Like no wonder he was screwed up with a mom like that.
One reviewer mentioned 2 things that happened in the book that I'm not sure about, I've read it and listened to the audiobook.
1. Dylan got a DUI. That doesn't ring a bell
2. The gun magazines were addressed to Dylan. I don't think that was confirmed. Dylan supposedly getting a DUI is new news to me as well. I have never come across anything saying that he was ever caught drinking while alive(other then him showing Sue the flask after Prom), much less drinking while driving. |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:12 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- 2 possibly dumb questions. I was reading the 1 star reviews of AMR, some are actually sympathetic to Dylan more so than Sue. Like no wonder he was screwed up with a mom like that.
One reviewer mentioned 2 things that happened in the book that I'm not sure about, I've read it and listened to the audiobook.
1. Dylan got a DUI. That doesn't ring a bell
2. The gun magazines were addressed to Dylan. I don't think that was confirmed.
Dylan supposedly getting a DUI is new news to me as well. I have never come across anything saying that he was ever caught drinking while alive(other then him showing Sue the flask after Prom), much less drinking while driving. I think the reviewer was mistaken, because I think he would have been kicked out of diversion. Unless it was before..but you'd think we'd hear about it. The thought of even sipping on peppermint schnapps makes me go blah! | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:40 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:43 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- Screamingophelia wrote:
- 2 possibly dumb questions. I was reading the 1 star reviews of AMR, some are actually sympathetic to Dylan more so than Sue. Like no wonder he was screwed up with a mom like that.
One reviewer mentioned 2 things that happened in the book that I'm not sure about, I've read it and listened to the audiobook.
1. Dylan got a DUI. That doesn't ring a bell
2. The gun magazines were addressed to Dylan. I don't think that was confirmed.
Dylan supposedly getting a DUI is new news to me as well. I have never come across anything saying that he was ever caught drinking while alive(other then him showing Sue the flask after Prom), much less drinking while driving. I think the reviewer was mistaken, because I think he would have been kicked out of diversion. Unless it was before..but you'd think we'd hear about it.
The thought of even sipping on peppermint schnapps makes me go blah!
Honestly anything sweet mixed with liquor is just a recipe for disaster in my opinion. I'm not big on drinking, not that I can't handle it, I just don't like not having full control of myself. But when I do drink, I'm a straight up shots kind of girl. If it's good vodka I can drink it straight and I like the occasional scotch, I'm mostly a wine girl, my "drinking" days are over. I hate being drunk then unable to do anything the next day Agreed! My bounce back, recovery period isn't what it used to be! |
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Littlelo
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:10 am | |
| I really don't think he got a DUI. We would have heard about it for sure.
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:14 am | |
| I believe Sue said she didn't know Dylan drank or smoked. If Dylan got a DUI im pretty sure she would know he was drinking | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:17 am | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- I really don't think he got a DUI. We would have heard about it for sure.
Vodka water - my go to drink! Long Island for me. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:36 am | |
| - W.A.R. wrote:
- I believe Sue said she didn't know Dylan drank or smoked.
If Dylan got a DUI im pretty sure she would know he was drinking She sure would, when I first read the book and she said he didn't drink I'm like... uhh..his nickname? I guess one of their friends moms was getting them alcohol according to Eric I've always wondered who that was. I've always felt it's a little creepy when adults give kids alcohol, and it's not a special occasion . Maybe because of people I grew up with? Does anyone else think vodka is a dumb nickname? I've always thought it wasn't very creative. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:46 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:50 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:57 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:06 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:13 am | |
| These chat conversations intrigue me. The way Eric is talking about taking action or wanting to take action and "play god" almost makes it look like he was feeling out this girl to see if she would be interested. If he did this with a random girl online, I wonder who else he talked to about these things (besides Dylan). Am I looking too far into it? What do you think? "you and me are the ones who should be running the world"
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:27 am | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- These chat conversations intrigue me. The way Eric is talking about taking action or wanting to take action and "play god" almost makes it look like he was feeling out this girl to see if she would be interested. If he did this with a random girl online, I wonder who else he talked to about these things (besides Dylan). Am I looking too far into it? What do you think?
"you and me are the ones who should be running the world"
"i just wish i could actually DO this instead of just DREAM about it all"
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] It does "seem" like he was testing the waters. Possibly to see how much this girl could think like him, or how she would react to the way he thought and the things he said. Also I will be saying "yey doggie" from now on! |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:35 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:47 am | |
| Must have been scary for that girl to realize who she had been talking to, in hindsight | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:47 am | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- These chat conversations intrigue me. The way Eric is talking about taking action or wanting to take action and "play god" almost makes it look like he was feeling out this girl to see if she would be interested. If he did this with a random girl online, I wonder who else he talked to about these things (besides Dylan). Am I looking too far into it? What do you think?
"you and me are the ones who should be running the world"
"i just wish i could actually DO this instead of just DREAM about it all"
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I've never seen this part! Maybe he was also trying to get an idea of how people would react? Maybe seeing if people also felt the way he fell. A lot of people do and wouldn't mind talking about it but they wouldn't actually do it. I wonder who she was? Were all these from people Eric knew in real life or just other girls he may have talked to through AIM? _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:49 am | |
| Regarding this girl in particular [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Eric did not know her in real life. They met online. The other chat conversation in the 11k was with Jen, his manager at Tortilla Wraps who was a year older than him. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:50 am | |
| The fact that she says she wants to hold someones life in her hand before reading his profile suggests she was quite genuine in my opinion, but I agree she just agrees most of the time. Like I did now. Lol.
I hate when people are like that, the conversation just isn't interesting anymore when you realize someone is just telling you what they think you want to hear.
Do you think Eric used these yey doggie/whoopy do expressions alot in school as well? I can imagine being a person who would get annoyed by that. Like who's this little kid trying to be funny all the time, shut up. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:50 am | |
| _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:51 am | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- Regarding this girl in particular [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], Eric did not know her in real life. They met online. The other chat conversation in the 11k was with Jen, his manager at Tortilla Wraps who was a year older than him.
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:51 am | |
| - Littlelo wrote:
- Must have been scary for that girl to realize who she had been talking to, in hindsight
If she ever made the connection between the two. It's hard to tell where she was from. But if she did realize who she was talking to I bet she was spooked. |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:53 am | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:56 am | |
| - munchkinphone wrote:
Do you think Eric used these yey doggie/whoopy do expressions alot in school as well? I can imagine being a person who would get annoyed by that. Like who's this little kid trying to be funny all the time, shut up. I hope he did use those expressions A LOT! I am now on a quest to find him saying "yey doggie" I will add it to my Columbine wish list! |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:01 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
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Do you think Eric used these yey doggie/whoopy do expressions alot in school as well? I can imagine being a person who would get annoyed by that. Like who's this little kid trying to be funny all the time, shut up. I hope he did use those expressions A LOT! I am now on a quest to find him saying "yey doggie" I will add it to my Columbine wish list! Eric, failed class clown, decides to be edgy teen instead. I hope he exclaimed "woo hoo, new pen" in class at some point. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:02 am | |
| Omg LOL that pen thing always cracks me up | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:34 pm | |
| Is "13 Families: Life After Columbine" available anywhere for free? If not, is it worth buying or renting? | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:41 am | |
| In the Eric in school video, Eric and Mike makes some weird hand gesture together twice. Once on the stairs when they are going down to the cafeteria and once again right after walking up the stairs on their way to class after having visited the cafeteria. Since Mike is blurred, it is hard to see if they are doing the same thing. Eric looks kind of like he is putting on/taking off glasses.
Does anyone know what this gesture could potentially mean?
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:28 am | |
| I can't figure out what they are saying when they do it. At first I thought maybe he was just putting his hands to his head like he was annoyed/getting a headache (jokingly) but I think it is something like goggles or glasses. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:45 am | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
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- I can't figure out what they are saying when they do it. At first I thought maybe he was just putting his hands to his head like he was annoyed/getting a headache (jokingly) but I think it is something like goggles or glasses.
I don't know about the gestures. Maybe they were mimicking the fact they were being filmed? Or possibly making light of the fact the camera man zoomed in on the girls asses? That was a gesture we did in HS back in the day too, but I don't remember why... LOL They may have been doing that because they were filming, who knows? | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:47 am | |
| I don't know that this deserves it's own thread but I thought of the BT tape leak and Dylan calling Rachel and Jen ungrateful. I wonder if he meant they lacked gratitude for what they had, or if they were generally unpleasant. It seems like an interesting choice of insult before he calls them whores...
_________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:54 am | |
| Also after seeing this again, it makes me wonder just how many times Eric had someone do that "loser" sign at him? Likely enough to where he tried to get his own friends to not do it. As Mike seemed kinda apologetic after Eric said something about it. |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:59 am | |
| - Screamingophelia wrote:
- I don't know that this deserves it's own thread but I thought of the BT tape leak and Dylan calling Rachel and Jen ungrateful. I wonder if he meant they lacked gratitude for what they had, or if they were generally unpleasant. It seems like an interesting choice of insult before he calls them whores...
I think you're right, it's probably just tied in with him calling them stuck up, as a generalization. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:19 am | |
| I think this may have been in Amanda's video but does anyone remember the story about Patti Nielsen when she went back to teach the next year and I guess students for being really loud and she yells something about the shooting? I don't think that's exact story I'm just trying to remember what the story was. _________________ "And you know, you know, you know, this can be beautiful, you say you're numb inside, but I can't agree. So the world's unfair, keep it locked out there. In here it's beautiful."
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:43 am | |
| I was just randomly going over some Kristi related material, and couldn't help but wonder if she was ever given back the letters between her and Eric? Most likely not. Does anyone know what happened to them? Also was thinking to myself how shitty it kinda was of her friend to have turned her in after she trusted her with them. Did the friend do it because she thought Kristi had been involved with NBK? |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:59 am | |
| I am curious to know what berevage Dyland and Eric drank from the cups in the cafeteria on the day of the shooting. For some reason I want to know what their mouths tasted like when they died... | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:01 pm | |
| - fly-with-me wrote:
- I am curious to know what berevage Dyland and Eric drank from the cups in the cafeteria on the day of the shooting. For some reason I want to know what their mouths tasted like when they died...
I imagine blood and bile, not very great. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:03 pm | |
| That's likely the only reason Eric took a drink. His nose was broken and he probably had a lot of blood in his mouth. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:15 pm | |
| - fly-with-me wrote:
- I am curious to know what berevage Dyland and Eric drank from the cups in the cafeteria on the day of the shooting. For some reason I want to know what their mouths tasted like when they died...
Well that is a somewhat strange thing to want to know. But as Screaming said, probably like blood. A coppery type taste for sure. Probably a little like a penny. On the drink itself, it could have been water, or pop. |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:21 pm | |
| I heard Eric broke his nose, but I didn't conceive of the idea that his mouth was filled with blood. I guess somewhere I hoped their last taste would be something more pleasant... like Dr Pepper. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:28 pm | |
| - fly-with-me wrote:
- I heard Eric broke his nose, but I didn't conceive of the idea that his mouth was filled with blood. I guess somewhere I hoped their last taste would be something more pleasant... like Dr Pepper.
Well in all truthfulness Eric's last taste would have been a metallic combination of blood and the barrel of his gun. Dylan's was likely blood as well if he was conscious enough to taste the blood that was filling his mouth and nose. Sorry to be so blunt, but there was likely nothing sweet about the last things they tasted before they died. |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:34 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- fly-with-me wrote:
- I heard Eric broke his nose, but I didn't conceive of the idea that his mouth was filled with blood. I guess somewhere I hoped their last taste would be something more pleasant... like Dr Pepper.
Well in all truthfulness Eric's last taste would have been a metallic combination of blood and the barrel of his gun. Dylan's was likely blood as well if he was conscious enough to taste the blood that was filling his mouth and nose.
Sorry to be so blunt, but there was likely nothing sweet about the last things they tasted before they died. At the very least we know that Dylan's belly yielded the comfort food of potatoes... I had to... | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:36 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:51 pm | |
| - ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- fly-with-me wrote:
- I heard Eric broke his nose, but I didn't conceive of the idea that his mouth was filled with blood. I guess somewhere I hoped their last taste would be something more pleasant... like Dr Pepper.
Well in all truthfulness Eric's last taste would have been a metallic combination of blood and the barrel of his gun. Dylan's was likely blood as well if he was conscious enough to taste the blood that was filling his mouth and nose.
Sorry to be so blunt, but there was likely nothing sweet about the last things they tasted before they died. Well my delusion has been brutally shattered and I don't know how to cope with this revelation. I found solace in the thought that atleast their tounges and lips had the aroma of soda during their last minutes on earth. | |
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| Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:05 pm | |
| - fly-with-me wrote:
- ShadowedGoddess wrote:
- fly-with-me wrote:
- I heard Eric broke his nose, but I didn't conceive of the idea that his mouth was filled with blood. I guess somewhere I hoped their last taste would be something more pleasant... like Dr Pepper.
Well in all truthfulness Eric's last taste would have been a metallic combination of blood and the barrel of his gun. Dylan's was likely blood as well if he was conscious enough to taste the blood that was filling his mouth and nose.
Sorry to be so blunt, but there was likely nothing sweet about the last things they tasted before they died. Well my delusion has been brutally shattered and I don't know how to cope with this revelation. I found solace in the thought that atleast their tounges and lips had the aroma of soda during their last minutes on earth. Ok now I feel bad. But there just isn't much sugar coating things if you deal only with reality. |
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