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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:09 am
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Clinton Moore told Chris Walker that Nate Dykeman told him of a time in which Klebold was “very scary.” A fight had occurred and he described Klebold as going “crazy.”
Does anybody know why Nate wasn't questioned about this?
It would be interesting to know when this happened and just generally get more details about what happened.
Why wasn't he questioned about it? BC it is Jeffco lol. They probably had no idea about any of that at the time of questioning. They did several interviews and polygraphs with him but kept most of the questions the same
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:16 am
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Clinton Moore told Chris Walker that Nate Dykeman told him of a time in which Klebold was “very scary.” A fight had occurred and he described Klebold as going “crazy.”
Does anybody know why Nate wasn't questioned about this?
It would be interesting to know when this happened and just generally get more details about what happened.
Anytime I hear things that were a this person told this person, who then told this person, who then told this person, etc type situation, it always triggers my skeptical nature.
A LOT of things can get added or changed around after it passes through so many sets of lips.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:20 am
Also I noticed that in the interview with Walker the interviewer kept making remarks about walker being nervous, clearing his throat and stuff.. probably because Eric asked him to buy him a gun in german class. But still, I have not seen that anywhere else, are they allowed to do that?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:31 am
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Also I noticed that in the interview with Walker the interviewer kept making remarks about walker being nervous, clearing his throat and stuff.. probably because Eric asked him to buy him a gun in german class. But still, I have not seen that anywhere else, are they allowed to do that?
If you have Netflix you should watch confession tapes and watch some of the cops in those interviews. Straight on leading people into situations. AFAIK there is no rule or law against mentioning that someone is seeming nervous or anxious so I am sure it is fair game
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:37 am
I wonder if something did happen in german class that nobody talks about. I feel like that was quite a small group and somehow everyone in it is a bit suspicious in one way or the other. And why the hell does Walker start talking about the fact that he has a book with pictures of gunwounds but he never showed it to Eric. Is that normal? to just casually say that?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:46 am
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munchkinphone wrote:
Also I noticed that in the interview with Walker the interviewer kept making remarks about walker being nervous, clearing his throat and stuff.. probably because Eric asked him to buy him a gun in german class. But still, I have not seen that anywhere else, are they allowed to do that?
If you have Netflix you should watch confession tapes and watch some of the cops in those interviews. Straight on leading people into situations. AFAIK there is no rule or law against mentioning that someone is seeming nervous or anxious so I am sure it is fair game
Agreed. They will try to get away with whatever they can.
Also the interviewer making several remarks about Walker appearing to be nervous would only make him even more nervous and overly cautious of his actions. Which in turn would make him try to act calmer and would make it seem that he was indeed trying to hide something.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:46 pm
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munchkinphone wrote:
Clinton Moore told Chris Walker that Nate Dykeman told him of a time in which Klebold was “very scary.” A fight had occurred and he described Klebold as going “crazy.”
Does anybody know why Nate wasn't questioned about this?
It would be interesting to know when this happened and just generally get more details about what happened.
Anytime I hear things that were a this person told this person, who then told this person, who then told this person, etc type situation, it always triggers my skeptical nature.
A LOT of things can get added or changed around after it passes through so many sets of lips.
I never knew Eric asked him to buy a gun. Did he say that was before or after Eric asked Robyn? I assume before. Pretty ballsy for Eric to ask someone that he might not of been too close to.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:54 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] It was in december 98 I think and Walkers sister describer Walker as being a close friend to Eric
Walkers interview is on page 2227 in the 11k
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:21 pm
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] It was in december 98 I think and Walkers sister describer Walker as being a close friend to Eric
Walkers interview is on page 2227 in the 11k
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:17 am
2 Questions.
- Do we have a ballistics information on who injured who at the school? I know that Dylan injured Lance for lack of a better phrase. But I think Eric did a lot of the shooting outside of the library just trying to get a gauge and wondered if it was just Dylans gun jamming or if he didn’t really start his reign of terror until the library. It seems like he was yelling more about wanting to die outside of the library than wanting to hurt people
- I read something in passing about a joke the Robyn supposedly made to Eric and Dylan asking if they were going to use the guns to shoot people. They supposedly told her they weren’t that’s stupid.Which seems to be something that Dylan said a lot. He said that to his Mom as well about smoking. The reason I ask this is because I think most of us sometimes will “jokingly” ask a question that we really want an answer to. Like trying to gauge if someone is serious or not. I wonder if Robyn did have an inkling that they were up to no good but she didn’t think they were serious or if she just wanted them to like her.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:48 am
Did you write Erica on purpose? I wonder if someone ever called him that to piss him off, it would certainly work.
Stephanie who was shot in the ankle had a 9mm wound so that must've been Dylan right?
I'm pretty sure I've seen someone list who shot who somewhere.
Edit: Ok you mean speciafically injured and not killed. I dont really know about that but maybe there's something about it in this thread [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or this one [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:54 am
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Did you write Erica on purpose? I wonder if someone ever called him that to piss him off, it would certainly work.
Stephanie who was shot in the ankle had a 9mm wound so that must've been Dylan right?
I'm pretty sure I've seen someone list who shot who somewhere.
Edit: Ok you mean speciafically injured and not killed. I dont really know about that but maybe there's something about it in this thread [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] or this one [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Nope! My auto correct changes it to Erica sometimes and I usually catch it.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:32 pm
I read an excert from Far from the trees with Tom Klebold . Tom seem slightly bemused at how many people who never knew Dylan seem to care about him and even find him handsome and intelligent. However if memory serves in Sues book that she has the opposite reaction.
I imagine they get a lot of crazy phone calls and letters. Ranging from I’m so sorry for your loss Dylab seemed like a great kid he went down the wrong path to I wish that you could be my mother-in-law I love your son he was a sexy beast.. or something like that.
Do you ever wonder what Dylan would think about the book and what his mom is doing?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:44 pm
Also totally asinine question. We have so many of their writing and videos. Who is the better actor and who is the better writer? I think Dylan’s the better writer, Eric‘s the better actor. Though special kudos always go to Erik V
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:09 pm
I wonder what were on the WADS that Dylan deleted?
In Peter Langmans book he called them WADS (like from Doom) but Dylan doesn't.
I do shit to supposedly 'cleanse' myself in a spiritual, moral sort of way (deleting the 'limits' on my comp, not getting drunk for periods of time, trying not to ridicule/make fun of people
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:21 pm
I am sorry about all the questions!!
I saw a master list of the videos released and this one bolded
Rampart Range 1 Rampart Range 2 Rampart Range 3 Rampart Range 4 Eric one year before Eric in 1997 Breakfast Run Car Wax Commercial/Eric Kidnapping/Radioactive Clothing Frankenstein Roast Dykeman Morning Ride Pulp Fiction (Dylan on the phone) Theater Class CHS Highway Patrol Hitman For Hire Dylan behind BJ Pizza Dylan walking down CHS stairs Harris Kidnapping Dylan (Rebel News Network Interview)
What is Eric in 1997 supposed to be?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:17 pm
I don't know but I haven't seen Dylan walking down CHS stairs and Pulp fiction either. Does anyone have those videos?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:27 pm
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I don't know but I haven't seen Dylan walking down CHS stairs and Pulp fiction either. Does anyone have those videos?
Here you go!!
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:41 pm
That's pretty good acting compared to his performance in radioactive clothing
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:37 pm
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That's pretty good acting compared to his performance in radioactive clothing
It's a lot more natural for sure.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:31 pm
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I wonder what were on the WADS that Dylan deleted?
In Peter Langmans book he called them WADS (like from Doom) but Dylan doesn't.
I do shit to supposedly 'cleanse' myself in a spiritual, moral sort of way (deleting the 'limits' on my comp, not getting drunk for periods of time, trying not to ridicule/make fun of people
I think Dylan did call them wads (written in lowercase letters) but his handwriting is not very clear. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I wonder why he thought that was a way to cleanse himself too. It's a good question.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:03 pm
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Screamingophelia wrote:
I wonder what were on the WADS that Dylan deleted?
In Peter Langmans book he called them WADS (like from Doom) but Dylan doesn't.
I do shit to supposedly 'cleanse' myself in a spiritual, moral sort of way (deleting the 'limits' on my comp, not getting drunk for periods of time, trying not to ridicule/make fun of people
I think Dylan did call them wads (written in lowercase letters) but his handwriting is not very clear. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I wonder why he thought that was a way to cleanse himself too. It's a good question.
I think either he didn’t want anything human to get in the way of his halcyon dream. Some people think when he apologizes for the porn and his fetishes he’s apologizing to his halcyon girl . Like he wants to remain pure because his body is only for her. Even though after he died his body won’t be here it would just be his soul.
He either felt shame over normal things or his desires were quite dark. I would love to know examples of the jokes he made to Devon.
I always wanted examples of the joke that he used to make the ones that Devon mentioned.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:37 am
As far as their "movies" both of them were sucky actors. Laughable even
But if you mean acting in real life I def think Dylan was the better actor.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:59 am
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As far as their "movies" both of them were sucky actors. Laughable even
But if you mean acting in real life I def think Dylan was the better actor.
Absolutely. Dylan is an Oscar winner when it comes to acting in real life.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:06 am
Unpopular opinion, I don’t think Eric was too bad in Radioactive Clothing
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:08 am
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Unpopular opinion, I don’t think Eric was too bad in Radioactive Clothing
I think he was trying really really hard to make a sci fi action movie. I think the idea (minus the clothing itself) was an ok idea. The concept of clothing coming to life is hilarious. If he meant it to be a sort of comedy he won there, but I think it was more meant to be a sci fi type movie.
I think the editing, other acting, and bloopers left in brought it down but it was way better than the Car Wax commercial or hit men for hire
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:28 am
Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Unpopular opinion, I don’t think Eric was too bad in Radioactive Clothing
I think he was trying really really hard to make a sci fi action movie. I think the idea (minus the clothing itself) was an ok idea. The concept of clothing coming to life is hilarious. If he meant it to be a sort of comedy he won there, but I think it was more meant to be a sci fi type movie.
I think the editing, other acting, and bloopers left in brought it down but it was way better than the Car Wax commercial or hit men for hire
The seriousness of comedy always makes it funnier to me
Did E&D write the actual scripts?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:29 am
Screamingophelia wrote:
Lizpuff wrote:
Screamingophelia wrote:
Unpopular opinion, I don’t think Eric was too bad in Radioactive Clothing
I think he was trying really really hard to make a sci fi action movie. I think the idea (minus the clothing itself) was an ok idea. The concept of clothing coming to life is hilarious. If he meant it to be a sort of comedy he won there, but I think it was more meant to be a sci fi type movie.
I think the editing, other acting, and bloopers left in brought it down but it was way better than the Car Wax commercial or hit men for hire
The seriousness of comedy always makes it funnier to me
Did E&D write the actual scripts?
AFAIK Eric wrote them
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:15 am
Did we ever get a statement from Dylan's boss at Computer Renaissance? I always wondered what he was like when he worked there without Eric and also probably in a much more professional environment than Blackjack?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:19 am
Do we know the exact date the class photos were taken and were they released before or after 20th April?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:21 pm
Could the quote on Eric’s cross saying you died a year ago and no one noticed been written By Kristi?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:24 pm
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Could the quote on Eric’s cross saying you died a year ago and no one noticed been written By Kristi?
It's possible. Although it really could have been written by anyone who knew Eric.
BUT I would truly LOVE to know who did write it, and what the meaning behind it was.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:53 am
Was the laundry detergent that Eric used for his Napalm found in the school?
I'm interested in knowing wether they used it in the molotovs or in the bombs because I believe it is more believable that they stored the napalm at someone elses house if they weren't going to use it for the bombs in the cafeteria.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:43 am
Who besides Eric is in Highway Patrol? Also was it made for a video production class?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:30 pm
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Who besides Eric is in Highway Patrol? Also was it made for a video production class?
It was made for the video production class Eric was in, and he was in a group with Veik, Mike V, and Chris Walker (the guy Eric in german class asked to buy him a shotgun once he turned 18 which was pretty soon)
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:56 am
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Screamingophelia wrote:
Who besides Eric is in Highway Patrol? Also was it made for a video production class?
It was made for the video production class Eric was in, and he was in a group with Veik, Mike V, and Chris Walker (the guy Eric in german class asked to buy him a shotgun once he turned 18 which was pretty soon)
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:58 am
I have a question about Eric applying for the Marines.
In AMR Sue talks about Eric and Dylan getting released from diversion early, so February 1999 and Kathy telling her that Eric would be working and going to community college. No talk of him wanting to join the Marines.
I guess I always assumed it was something Eric wanted to do for a long time. So I wonder why Kathy wouldn't mention that? When did he start mentioning that he wanted to join?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:17 am
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I have a question about Eric applying for the Marines.
In AMR Sue talks about Eric and Dylan getting released from diversion early, so February 1999 and Kathy telling her that Eric would be working and going to community college. No talk of him wanting to join the Marines.
I guess I always assumed it was something Eric wanted to do for a long time. So I wonder why Kathy wouldn't mention that? When did he start mentioning that he wanted to join?
Eric spoke to the recruiter in April of 1999. So perhaps even if he did want to join earlier he never mentioned it to his family seriously
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:41 am
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Screamingophelia wrote:
I have a question about Eric applying for the Marines.
In AMR Sue talks about Eric and Dylan getting released from diversion early, so February 1999 and Kathy telling her that Eric would be working and going to community college. No talk of him wanting to join the Marines.
I guess I always assumed it was something Eric wanted to do for a long time. So I wonder why Kathy wouldn't mention that? When did he start mentioning that he wanted to join?
Eric spoke to the recruiter in April of 1999. So perhaps even if he did want to join earlier he never mentioned it to his family seriously
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:02 pm
Where in the 11k does a witness state that Dylan called in a bomb threat?
Or was that another random rumor?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:35 am
Haven't been around in a while so forgive if been covered recently, would be interested to know if Randy Brown still believes Eric shot Dylan, anybody know?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:40 am
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Haven't been around in a while so forgive if been covered recently, would be interested to know if Randy Brown still believes Eric shot Dylan, anybody know?
To my knowledge I don't think he still believes that. It's hard to when the evidence indicates that Eric killed himself first followed shortly thereafter by Dylan.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:36 am
Thanks for the reply, yes I agree, I will try to find out if and why he still believes it
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:22 pm
I’ve read in many places that Lisa K was the last injured survivor to leave the library.
Wouldn’t it have been Lisa and Val? I think Val was injured pretty badly as well. I’m not sure how she could have ran out?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm
Val was able to leave. The last 2 living in the library were Lisa and Patrick. When the police went in Patrick had escaped so Lisa was the only living person in there
I want to hear more from her than anyone else but she will never talk about it
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:18 pm
I read somewhere that E and D got up early at the beginning of senior year to get the best parking spots, so they showed up at like 5 am. Has anyone heard of this at all?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:25 am
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I read somewhere that E and D got up early at the beginning of senior year to get the best parking spots, so they showed up at like 5 am. Has anyone heard of this at all?
Yes. Eric and Dylan as well as Zach got up extra early to get the best spots. They wanted to be right outside the doors
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun May 06, 2018 7:32 am
Do we know who leaked the suicide photos?
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Sun May 06, 2018 9:51 am
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Do we know who leaked the suicide photos?
I'm 99% sure it was Danny R's dad.
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Subject: Re: The small questions thread Mon May 07, 2018 2:49 am