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Apparently there's a documentary called "13 families" and one of the victims parents said they met what the Harris family and not once did they apologise. What do you think about that?

Also, out of interest, where does everyone keep finding personal information and photos of their brother and family? They must really dig  around!


It was Lauren Townsend's stepfather who said that.
He seems hostile towards both E &D's parents.
He complained about the Klebold's letter saying that it had no compassion in it and was written by their lawyer which I'm not sure is correct since they seemed to write all the victims themselves.
Then he said of course that Eric's parents didn't apologize when he saw them at the depositions.
Considering how he seems to feel about them ,maybe Eric's parents picked up on that and didn't feel comfortable saying anything.


Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Klebold's letters were vetting or at least discuss before writing, incase it did get them into legal trouble.

To be honest the "in a moment of madness" line would have riled me up. It implies it was an impulsive act and denies the 1-2 years the boys were planning it.

Well at the time of writing that, that is what Sue believed. It wasn't until she saw the BT that she realized what had happened. Prior to that she thought it was an impulsive decision.
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I've always wondered why they didn't hit the gym, or locker rooms. They would of found most of the "jocks" that they supposedly hated there. Jocks aside, the gym had to have had the most people in one space in the school, for maximum kills.
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If they hadn't have killed themselves, would Columbine be as notorious (or at least as interesting to us fanatics**)?


*fanatics might not be the most appropriate word to use, but I can't think of a better one.

Great question! I would have to say a pretty solid "No" in response to being as interesting or compelling to us Columbine researchers. I think the boys would have been exposed for the whiney, mentally unstable children they were, and that would have taken away a lot of the mystique surrounding the two.

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If they hadn't have killed themselves, would Columbine be as notorious (or at least as interesting to us fanatics**)?


*fanatics might not be the most appropriate word to use, but I can't think of a better one.

Great question! I would have to say a pretty solid "No" in response to being as interesting or compelling to us Columbine researchers. I think the boys would have been exposed for the whiney, mentally unstable children they were, and that would have taken away a lot of the mystique surrounding the two.

It is funny. I have a feeling that comes and goes sometimes that is similar to your thoughts in relation to the BT. I feel like if they were released and we saw them "posturing" as a lot of people put it, a lot of the mystique around them would vanish and a lot of "fanatics" would drop off. People would see how they really were just young boys acting. Sometimes I don't feel that way but a lot of the time I do.
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If they hadn't have killed themselves, would Columbine be as notorious (or at least as interesting to us fanatics**)?


*fanatics might not be the most appropriate word to use, but I can't think of a better one.

Great question! I would have to say a pretty solid "No" in response to being as interesting or compelling to us Columbine researchers. I think the boys would have been exposed for the whiney, mentally unstable children they were, and that would have taken away a lot of the mystique surrounding the two.

It is funny.  I have a feeling that comes and goes sometimes that is similar to your thoughts in relation to the BT.  I feel like if they were released and we saw them "posturing" as a lot of people put it, a lot of the mystique around them would vanish and a lot of "fanatics" would drop off.  People would see how they really were just young boys acting.  Sometimes I don't feel that way but a lot of the time I do.

Exactly. Posturing is the best word about the BTs, which I've called essentially "performance art" before. That's why I have mentioned elsewhere that there are other things I would rather see than the BTs; namely, Eric's psychiatrist's notes, the "Nixon" tape, and the portion of video where Eric apparently tears up or cries while by himself in his car talking about his past.

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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.
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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

yes and no. Yes the Nixon name has nothing to do with NBK and the tape was previously used for something totally different, however Eric supposedly recorded a "confessional" on that tape and left it on the table 4/20
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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

yes and no.  Yes the Nixon name has nothing to do with NBK and the tape was previously used for something totally different, however Eric supposedly recorded a "confessional" on that tape and left it on the table 4/20

On the table in the library?
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astrospace92 wrote:
If they hadn't have killed themselves, would Columbine be as notorious (or at least as interesting to us fanatics**)?


*fanatics might not be the most appropriate word to use, but I can't think of a better one.

Great question! I would have to say a pretty solid "No" in response to being as interesting or compelling to us Columbine researchers. I think the boys would have been exposed for the whiney, mentally unstable children they were, and that would have taken away a lot of the mystique surrounding the two.

It is funny.  I have a feeling that comes and goes sometimes that is similar to your thoughts in relation to the BT.  I feel like if they were released and we saw them "posturing" as a lot of people put it, a lot of the mystique around them would vanish and a lot of "fanatics" would drop off.  People would see how they really were just young boys acting.  Sometimes I don't feel that way but a lot of the time I do.

Exactly. Posturing is the best word about the BTs, which I've called essentially "performance art" before. That's why I have mentioned elsewhere that there are other things I would rather see than the BTs; namely, Eric's psychiatrist's notes, the "Nixon" tape, and the portion of video where Eric apparently tears up or cries while by himself in his car talking about his past.

I agree. I'd prefer to see the evidence you mentioned as well.
I just don't think anyone can make too much an accurate analysis from the BTs.
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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

yes and no.  Yes the Nixon name has nothing to do with NBK and the tape was previously used for something totally different, however Eric supposedly recorded a "confessional" on that tape and left it on the table 4/20

On the table in the library?

No on his kitchen table in his home.
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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

Someone else already explained what was on the tape but here's the document from the investigator who listened to the tape.

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Also, I think that this was the tape Eric originally used to record an interview with an acquaintance named Nixon for a school project where he had to write an essay about Nixon's life in Singapore. You can see it on page 745 here.

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I am interested in hearing this tape because he talks about why he's going to do it less than 24 hours before he went through with it but this part is apparently not directly quoted. It's only a few moments but who knows what he said. Since it was left on his kitchen table, it may be more of the same stuff he said on the basement tapes but it just makes me wonder why he took the time to place it there. Did he hope his parents would come home and find it when they heard about the shooting or was it another tape directed at the general public?

I wonder if he recorded it without Dylan for a reason or whether he was just so excited that night about their plans coming together that he impulsively recorded it. Did he reveal something there that he didn't reveal anywhere else or was he repeating what he'd expressed in his journal and other tapes? Just another little bit of information that, most likely, no one will ever know.
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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

Someone else already explained what was on the tape but here's the document from the investigator who listened to the tape.

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Also, I think that this was the tape Eric originally used to record an interview with an acquaintance named Nixon for a school project where he had to write an essay about Nixon's life in Singapore. You can see it on page 745 here.

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I am interested in hearing this tape because he talks about why he's going to do it less than 24 hours before he went through with it but this part is apparently not directly quoted. It's only a few moments but who knows what he said. Since it was left on his kitchen table, it may be more of the same stuff he said on the basement tapes but it just makes me wonder why he took the time to place it there. Did he hope his parents would come home and find it when they heard about the shooting or was it another tape directed at the general public?

I wonder if he recorded it without Dylan for a reason or whether he was just so excited that night about their plans coming together that he impulsively recorded it. Did he reveal something there that he didn't reveal anywhere else or was he repeating what he'd expressed in his journal and other tapes? Just another little bit of information that, most likely, no one will ever know.


I can't believe they didn't somehow confirm it was definitely Eric talking, maybe a audio expert or something. Secondly, I can't believe there aren't any transcripts. I mean if this has on it what it supposedly says it does, its pretty big stuff. Like the basement tapes part 2, maybe even recorded without Dylan behind his back or something.
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sscc wrote:
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I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

Someone else already explained what was on the tape but here's the document from the investigator who listened to the tape.

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Also, I think that this was the tape Eric originally used to record an interview with an acquaintance named Nixon for a school project where he had to write an essay about Nixon's life in Singapore. You can see it on page 745 here.

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I am interested in hearing this tape because he talks about why he's going to do it less than 24 hours before he went through with it but this part is apparently not directly quoted. It's only a few moments but who knows what he said. Since it was left on his kitchen table, it may be more of the same stuff he said on the basement tapes but it just makes me wonder why he took the time to place it there. Did he hope his parents would come home and find it when they heard about the shooting or was it another tape directed at the general public?

I wonder if he recorded it without Dylan for a reason or whether he was just so excited that night about their plans coming together that he impulsively recorded it. Did he reveal something there that he didn't reveal anywhere else or was he repeating what he'd expressed in his journal and other tapes? Just another little bit of information that, most likely, no one will ever know.

Is this ALL we have to work with in regard to the Nixon tape???
(Also, who says "oriental" anymore??? Even in 1999??)

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sscc wrote:
slippy123 wrote:
I thought the Nixon tape is nothing. Nixon has no meaning and it was written by another student that used the tapes for a project before Eric got his hands on the camera.

Someone else already explained what was on the tape but here's the document from the investigator who listened to the tape.

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Also, I think that this was the tape Eric originally used to record an interview with an acquaintance named Nixon for a school project where he had to write an essay about Nixon's life in Singapore. You can see it on page 745 here.

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I am interested in hearing this tape because he talks about why he's going to do it less than 24 hours before he went through with it but this part is apparently not directly quoted. It's only a few moments but who knows what he said. Since it was left on his kitchen table, it may be more of the same stuff he said on the basement tapes but it just makes me wonder why he took the time to place it there. Did he hope his parents would come home and find it when they heard about the shooting or was it another tape directed at the general public?

I wonder if he recorded it without Dylan for a reason or whether he was just so excited that night about their plans coming together that he impulsively recorded it. Did he reveal something there that he didn't reveal anywhere else or was he repeating what he'd expressed in his journal and other tapes? Just another little bit of information that, most likely, no one will ever know.

Is this ALL we have to work with in regard to the Nixon tape???
(Also, who says "oriental" anymore??? Even in 1999??)

Laughing I felt the same way. But we know that Littleton was not the most culturally diverse area so I guess I get it.

I don't really know if that's all there is but I think it might be. I found the .pdf I cut the pic from in this article:

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The actual link is now broken but it's still available if you check the web archive here:

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There's only a brief mention of the Nixon Tape in the article before they move on to Wayne Harris' journal and it basically repeats the little bit of info that's in the police report:

Quote :
Evidence logs indicate that police found much more than the basement tapes and the "Book of God" when they searched the Harris home. Harris left other handwritten notes behind and at least one audio message -- a microcassette labeled "Nixon" that was left conspicuously on the kitchen counter. According to a brief internal police summary of the tape's contents, Harris can be heard explaining "why these things are happening and states it will happen less than nine hours [from] now.'"

However, I still haven't gotten through the majority of the documents yet so if I eventually come across something else, I guess I'll try to post it.
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Is there a consensus that the authorities, investigators (and hobbyists too I suppose) can account for most or all of the boys' online activity?
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If the Nixon tape really talks about 'why things are going to happen' you'd definitely think they'd publish a transcript of it. That is a vital piece of information in understanding the tragedy.
I am a little confused and annoyed as to why there's not more details about it.
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Is there a consensus that the authorities, investigators (and hobbyists too I suppose) can account for most or all of the boys' online activity?  

Well Dylan erased his Hard drive prior to the 20th. And as far as I know nothing has been done with that. They have the means now to see what was on it that they didn't have at the time but they have not publicly done anything.

So we are missing Dylan's online activities to some extent.
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I don't think I've seen it before.

That has been proven to not be a picture of Dylan it is someone else
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I don't think I've seen it before.

It's taken from a video of a guy dancing at a rave. I have seen it but I can't find it at present. I'm fairly sure someone once posted a link to it on here before.
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Imagine if one was captured and one had died…depending which one was left alive would make a lot of difference too.
I was thinking the same thing. What if Eric got shot in the beginning during his shootout with that cop. What would Dylan do? + I was wondering how do people know which one lit the molotov cocktail right before they died. How do they know it was Dylan?
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Imagine if one was captured and one had died…depending which one was left alive would make a lot of difference too.
 I was thinking the same thing. What if Eric got shot in the beginning during his shootout with that cop. What would Dylan do? + I was wondering how do people know which one lit the molotov cocktail right before they died. How do they know it was Dylan?

They think it was Dylan because they found parts of Eric's brain matter underneath the liquid from the explosion that it created leading them to think that he shot himself before it had exploded.

I think if Eric would have been killed by Gardener prior to entering the school that Dylan would have killed himself right then and there.
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As I recall it, there is testimony from several sources who state that neither boy started wearing trenchcoats until their senior year. I could certainly be wrong on that but it brings this question to mind:

I guess my question is: did they start wearing trench coats before or after the Kipland Kinkel Oregon Shooting in 1998?
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As I recall it, there is testimony from several sources who state that neither boy started wearing trenchcoats until their senior year. I could certainly be wrong on that but it brings this question to mind:

I guess my question is: did they start wearing trench coats before or after the Kipland Kinkel Oregon Shooting in 1998?
By the time the Thurston shooting happened in May of 1998, Dylan and Eric were already talking about NBK. I'm pretty sure they said something about it their yearbooks which they would have already gotten by the time Kinkel went on his shooting spree.

Whether they had trench coats or not yet, I'm not sure. I guess it's possible they got the idea from him because that is exactly what he did to hide his guns. That's a good question and maybe someone else will know exactly when they got the coats and started wearing them.

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As I recall it, there is testimony from several sources who state that neither boy started wearing trenchcoats until their senior year. I could certainly be wrong on that but it brings this question to mind:

I guess my question is: did they start wearing trench coats before or after the Kipland Kinkel Oregon Shooting in 1998?
By the time the Thurston shooting happened in May of 1998, Dylan and Eric were already talking about NBK. I'm pretty sure they said something about it their yearbooks which they would have already gotten by the time Kinkel went on his shooting spree.

Whether they had trench coats or not yet, I'm not sure. I guess it's possible they got the idea from him because that is exactly what he did to hide his guns. That's a good question and maybe someone else will know exactly when they got the coats and started wearing them.

The only thing i know is that Sue wrote in her book about buying Dylan a second leather trenchcoat in late 1998. So he already had one by then.
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Which house did they "use" to film "Radioactive Clothing"? I read it was Eric's, but still I'm not sure, if it's true.
And what is this "thing", they're playing with at 12:50?
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Which house did they "use" to film "Radioactive Clothing"? I read it was Eric's, but still I'm not sure, if it's true.
And what is this "thing", they're playing with at 12:50?

It was not Eric Harris' house. I have seen conflicting reports that it was either Eric V's house or Mike's house. I think it was Mike's house though.
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Which house did they "use" to film "Radioactive Clothing"? I read it was Eric's, but still I'm not sure, if it's true.
And what is this "thing", they're playing with at 12:50?

It was not Eric Harris' house.  I have seen conflicting reports that it was either Eric V's house or Mike's house.  I think it was Mike's house though.
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In Eric's "25 things that make me different" list, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is "My patented way of killing spiders and crickets." I just wonder, what could that have been?
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I wonder what Dylan had on his computer that he had to completely erase his whole hard drive, even though he left pages of deep journal writings behind.
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In Eric's "25 things that make me different" list, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is "My patented way of killing spiders and crickets." I just wonder, what could that have been?

I also wonder what it was! Both my husband and I hate spiders. I am terrified of them and I honestly think he is too. I need a new way besides squishing....it's too scary and requires me to be too close!
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In Eric's "25 things that make me different" list, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is "My patented way of killing spiders and crickets." I just wonder, what could that have been?

I also wonder what it was!  Both my husband and I hate spiders.  I am terrified of them and I honestly think he is too.  I need a new way besides squishing....it's too scary and requires me to be too close!

It probably had something to do with exploding them up or something. I also hate spiders, more than anything!

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I wonder what Dylan had on his computer that he had to completely erase his whole hard drive, even though he left pages of deep journal writings behind.

I tend to agree with many that it was probably some S&M/bondage porn, maybe even foot fetish stuff, both of which he alludes to having an affinity for in his journal.

I don't think it was any other reason but pornography, to be perfectly honest, though I'd like to hear if anyone has another thought on that. He apparently didn't care if his mother knew he was a killer, but God forbid she knew he was into S&M! Rolling Eyes

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I thought I read somewhere that his way of killing the bugs was with fire.
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I wonder what Dylan had on his computer that he had to completely erase his whole hard drive, even though he left pages of deep journal writings behind.

I tend to agree with many that it was probably some S&M/bondage porn, maybe even foot fetish stuff, both of which he alludes to having an affinity for in his journal.

I don't think it was any other reason but pornography, to be perfectly honest, though I'd like to hear if anyone has another thought on that. He apparently didn't care if his mother knew he was a killer, but God forbid she knew he was into S&M! Rolling Eyes

I do agree that it could have been porn. But the only thing that makes me think that it wouldn't be would just be the fact that Dylan did write about Porn and masturbating in his journal that he left behind. I know his journal was found scattered around and in his bedframe so maybe he didn't think anyone would find it but still....it must have been some hardcore porn for him to want to delete it!
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Maybe it was a bit of gay porn that he was ashamed of. Would tie in with those who claim he could have been bi-sexual.
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Must be porn. and based on an assumption, probably a composition of his sexual desires with that girl of his dreams. Might've written a really racy desired fuck-session between him and the girl.

and, meh, more porn.

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He was ashamed of looking at porn but not ashamed of his desire to murder.  How odd.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I totally understand that mindset. I may not be perfectly literate to explain it but the easiest I can think of to put it is sex is such a personal, delicate and taboo topic and let alone to him, in addition with his fetishes aswell so, if a collection of it in his keepsake is discovered it would crush him. Like, it's such a reveal of his innermost vulnerable desires. Discussing about violence and murder is so much more easier to share, some would even say it's something more badass/to be proud of.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - I get what you're saying.  I just hate the way that in our society violence  is glorified and seen as masculine while sex/nudity are shamed.  I'm a peace loving, free love hippie kinda person I guess.  No fetishes should be shamed as long as they don't involve harming another person. Honestly our society sickens me.  Parents are ok taking their kids to see violent movies where heads are blown off, but everyone flips over a woman's boob being shown. That's silly to me.  It's hypocritical that nudity is still taboo when we have a multi million (billion?) dollar porn industry here.  In Europe women sunbathe topless and nobody gives a shit.  Over here teenage girls get sent home from school for wearing a tank top when it's 90 freakin' degrees outside.


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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I agree.

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I always kinda wonder what went thru their brains when they filmed Hitmen for Hire and Radioactive clothing using those fake weapons all the while knowing they had real guns at home.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I don't think they owned real guns yet. I'm not exactly sure when they filmed it but I believe it was before winter in 1998 which is when they purchased their guns.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I don't think they owned real guns yet. I'm not exactly sure when they filmed it but I believe it was before winter in 1998 which is when they purchased their guns.

They got their first set of guns nov 1998. Radioactive Clothing was filmed late march early april of 1999. And Hitmen for hire was december 1998. So they did have the real guns then
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I don't think they owned real guns yet. I'm not exactly sure when they filmed it but I believe it was before winter in 1998 which is when they purchased their guns.

They got their first set of guns nov 1998.  Radioactive Clothing was filmed late march early april of 1999.  And Hitmen for hire was december 1998.  So they did have the real guns then
If thats true then - Wow. All this time i was thinking those two videos might have been filmed around the fall of '98. Any source?
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I don't think they owned real guns yet. I'm not exactly sure when they filmed it but I believe it was before winter in 1998 which is when they purchased their guns.

They got their first set of guns nov 1998.  Radioactive Clothing was filmed late march early april of 1999.  And Hitmen for hire was december 1998.  So they did have the real guns then
If thats true then - Wow. All this time i was thinking those two videos might have been filmed around the fall of '98. Any source?

Well Hitmen For Hire is timestamped, I have read about them making both here and in the 11k but I cannot find links at the moment and that may take me a hot minute to locate.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] they must be getting off on that personal knowledge inside of them. They were foreshadowing in their minds, hell, maybe even knowing then that their hitmen for hire video would be viewed by the world.

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Well I no longer have access to the "searchable" 11k so finding the links is going to take a long time. Hopefully someone else here has access to that. I won't say I am right but I am pretty sure on those video dates.

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